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Lions first team would give em a game , from what passion and organisation weve shown last few week .

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Looking in from outside it seemed that when you changed coaches after DP , he dismantled a winning side and seemed to want to make his own mark and be different and signed inferior players to the ones he let go ? Is that fair

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is it just me but since crossley not played  drew two lost one best prop outside of super league not getting played and George whats happened to him

Trying to figure out when we drew twice. I think we've drew once lost once. Lost 4 drew one i think.

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We crossed their line seven times this afternoon as badly as some say we might have played. Only four counted unfortunately which was one more than they scored. It's going to take time and a bit of patience before this team hits it's straps I'm afraid. The quality is there, no doubt in my mind.

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6 hour round trip and half a tank of diesel to watch that utter garbage!! Everyone connected to our club should be ashamed of themselves with that today

 

From the players - we will call them players as they are clearly not a team a team anymore, its just a team of individuals attempting to play in a team, no fluidity, no togetherness, no one has got a clue how to run a ball in anymore in the pack, Harry Seijka is by far the worst scrum half ive seen at Fev in a fair while, even people are asking when Moore is fit!! How much time did he have to knock over a DG at 14 all and proceeded to do the worlds worst fake DG attempt and run and got tackled! Unacceptable from a supposed leader round the pitch!

 

I was skeptical when he was brought in and made my feelings clear, only to be rebuffed and told to give him a chance, yet we see that today from him and i feel i am having the last laugh unfortuneatly because he should be no where near a fev shirt again for me and shipped back to wakey reserves,

 

Crookes is another one who is stealing a wing shirt from Etu, Mendeika, Blackmore or even Hellewell, his loan cannot end soon enough either

 

Whats also worrying me is at 14 - 14 workington were as cool as a cucumber, yet we were like rabbits in the headlights trying to score off every break, resulting in numerous poor and dropped ball, it almost looked inevitable what would happen and look what happened

 

We are simply a mess, a rudderless ship at the moment, no leaders, no one standing up to be counted

 

The coaches - last week we got away with naming no specialised hooker on the bench and Ellis was blowing like a cart horse after 12 hours in the rice fields last week, so why does AH proceed with the same plan today, in the hot dry sun? Well that clearly bit us in the backside today as we were snookered when Ellis went off injured, Flanagan is clearly not in favour with AH which i dont know why as i quite like Flanagan, but he wouldve had a field day today in that second half running at those tired Workington forwards, so i suggest to AH - if you read this, Flanagan will have to play next week cos of Ellis head injury, but please revert to two hookers in the team thank you

 

The BOD - quite simply, we need some answers to the long term future and quick, are the money men in or are they out because we cant move on at this present time

 

The opposistion - Whilst Workington were well worthy in their victory today, i have never seen a team roll about as much with ''injuries'' as i have witnessed today, the stoppages for workington injuries mustve been in the double figures and its a shame because i dont think they need that in their game - you can see why they have got BP in nearly every game because they work so hard for one another, i cant believe thats only 4 victories for them this season

 

But lets be honest, with the wage budgets and calibre of players of both teams, workington shouldve been nowhere near us today, yet they were the only one team today who showed heart, courage, aggression and that bit of extra skill when required, you could argue we dominated the seond half, but the final result doesnt lie

 

Roll on NW crusaders next week, a team who appear to be playing as bad as us, surely we cant drop points to them

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I can't wait to see how we know we can play again. Sometimes, I let my feelings toward the club get the better of me and  I just get angry at everything. I don't know if anyone has the same feeling but when I see us playing very poor I get a sick feeling in my stomach. It's horrible it's like we've just lost a grand final when we play poor to me ha ha.

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ur right rovers forever do apologise point I was trying to make is why we got crossley doing water carrier and George not playing and we got loan players in doing nowt

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6 hour round trip and half a tank of diesel to watch that utter garbage!! Everyone connected to our club should be ashamed of themselves with that today

 

From the players - we will call them players as they are clearly not a team a team anymore, its just a team of individuals attempting to play in a team, no fluidity, no togetherness, no one has got a clue how to run a ball in anymore in the pack, Harry Seijka is by far the worst scrum half ive seen at Fev in a fair while, even people are asking when Moore is fit!! How much time did he have to knock over a DG at 14 all and proceeded to do the worlds worst fake DG attempt and run and got tackled! Unacceptable from a supposed leader round the pitch!

 

I was skeptical when he was brought in and made my feelings clear, only to be rebuffed and told to give him a chance, yet we see that today from him and i feel i am having the last laugh unfortuneatly because he should be no where near a fev shirt again for me and shipped back to wakey reserves,

 

Crookes is another one who is stealing a wing shirt from Etu, Mendeika, Blackmore or even Hellewell, his loan cannot end soon enough either

 

Whats also worrying me is at 14 - 14 workington were as cool as a cucumber, yet we were like rabbits in the headlights trying to score off every break, resulting in numerous poor and dropped ball, it almost looked inevitable what would happen and look what happened

 

We are simply a mess, a rudderless ship at the moment, no leaders, no one standing up to be counted

 

The coaches - last week we got away with naming no specialised hooker on the bench and Ellis was blowing like a cart horse after 12 hours in the rice fields last week, so why does AH proceed with the same plan today, in the hot dry sun? Well that clearly bit us in the backside today as we were snookered when Ellis went off injured, Flanagan is clearly not in favour with AH which i dont know why as i quite like Flanagan, but he wouldve had a field day today in that second half running at those tired Workington forwards, so i suggest to AH - if you read this, Flanagan will have to play next week cos of Ellis head injury, but please revert to two hookers in the team thank you

 

The BOD - quite simply, we need some answers to the long term future and quick, are the money men in or are they out because we cant move on at this present time

 

The opposistion - Whilst Workington were well worthy in their victory today, i have never seen a team roll about as much with ''injuries'' as i have witnessed today, the stoppages for workington injuries mustve been in the double figures and its a shame because i dont think they need that in their game - you can see why they have got BP in nearly every game because they work so hard for one another, i cant believe thats only 4 victories for them this season

 

But lets be honest, with the wage budgets and calibre of players of both teams, workington shouldve been nowhere near us today, yet they were the only one team today who showed heart, courage, aggression and that bit of extra skill when required

 

Roll on NW crusaders next week, a team who appear to be playing as bad as us, surely we cant drop points to them

I really hope them down at fev get to read this, it is spot on. Print it off and mail it!

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We crossed their line seven times this afternoon as badly as some say we might have played. Only four counted unfortunately which was one more than they scored. It's going to take time and a bit of patience before this team hits it's straps I'm afraid. The quality is there, no doubt in my mind.

 

 

I'm still to be convinced - I don't think we're much, if any, better than we were on the opening day of the season despite all the recent supposed 'quality' signings.

 

I can't help feeling the Club has lost it's way, big style.

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ur right rovers forever do apologise point I was trying to make is why we got crossley doing water carrier and George not playing and we got loan players in doing nowt

No apologies needed pal everyone has their own opinion mate, i agree with you on the loan players 100% as well. It tears our team apart and makes our original lads disheartend.

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I really hope them down at fev get to read this, it is spot on. Print it off and mail it!

Spot on

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When was the last time we brought a player into our first team from our youth structure , is the right talent there and whose in charge ! , if there is talent why arnt any at all getting a chance over loan players ? ive heard an spoke to a good few fev fans watching lions 1st team asking why they arnt watching a few of the youngters who love fev and look very impressive

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When was the last time we brought a player into our first team from our youth structure , is the right talent there and whose in charge ! , if there is talent why arnt any at all getting a chance over loan players ? ive heard an spoke to a good few fev fans watching lions 1st team asking why they arnt watching a few of the youngters who love fev and look very impressive

Bussey is about the only one. There are several knocking around other teams, who are playing well such as Dave Scott and Thomas Carr, there'll be others that I can't bring to mind.

We also are missing a spearhead Stuart Dickens figure, you don't replace 14 years of prop forward/ captaincy experience and you leave a huge hole.

Dane Manning's suspension has had an indirect input on Rovers solving my latter point.

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Bussey is about the only one. There are several knocking around other teams, who are playing well such as Dave Scott and Thomas Carr, there'll be others that I can't bring to mind.

We also are missing a spearhead Stuart Dickens figure, you don't replace 14 years of prop forward/ captaincy experience and you leave a huge hole.

Stuart Dickens, what a player he was. We definately need a leader like that on the field. He used to kick everybodies ass into gear.

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          we   badly   need   a  proper   scrum   half  to   dictate   play   and   move   players   round  the   field, also   a   ball   handling   forward   with   a   football   brain  to   give   more   structure  in  attack .most   of  todays   players  dont   think  for   themselves   and   the   team,they   just   go   through   the   pack   drill   done   during   training.lets   have   players   breaking   the   line  looking  to  release  the   ball   and   teamates   reading   whats   infront   of   them   and   backing   up   the   ball   carrier.go   back   to   simple   basic   rugby  with  the   odd  wild   card   move   thrown  in   when   required.as   for   giving   young   players   a  chance  i   agree  with   the   post   above.any  young   player   who  really   wants   to   play   proffesional   rugby   league   should   be   able   to   perform   in  the   championship .

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Bussey is about the only one. There are several knocking around other teams, who are playing well such as Dave Scott and Thomas Carr, there'll be others that I can't bring to mind.

We also are missing a spearhead Stuart Dickens figure, you don't replace 14 years of prop forward/ captaincy experience and you leave a huge hole.

Agree Dickens was a great leader , we seem to be lacking onfield leadership badly at the moment . and as a club that has always brought through great local talent , i hope this loan loan loan fiasco isent going to impede it in any way .

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Loan has impeded it from the start. Pushing out our own good players for useless DR/loan players that haven't a clue on how we play.

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Agree Dickens was a great leader , we seem to be lacking onfield leadership badly at the moment . and as a club that has always brought through great local talent , i hope this loan loan loan fiasco isent going to impede it in any way .

Looking after the U19s at Wakey. and has successfully brought two into into the first team squad as of late. A great bloke. Another one, who being a great servant to the club, slipped away.

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Loan has impeded it from the start. Pushing out our own good players for useless DR/loan players that haven't a clue on how we play.

And that is the issue nailed in one. If ( and this is no disrespect to former weaker clubs) we were placing quality such as Ewan Dowes, Liam Watts and say Richard Whiting in our team it would improve the current squad, even though it stinks.

When you are getting sub standard, or at best 'no better' players replacing the established squad players you have already got, itcauses resentment and has an unsettling effect on the team.

We have already lost a long established quality player who was willing to tow his tripe out ( as he always did) but a better offer with long term stability was put his way.

To me if we are going DR we may as well not have fought for the identity of the club all those years ago and gone with the 'Calder Brand' at least we could have enjoyed 'Old father time Kirmond' in full swing.

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Looking after the U19s at Wakey. and has successfully brought two into into the first team squad as of late. A great bloke. Another one, who being a great servant to the club, slipped away.

Agree on that 100% a big loss to us , and a credit to him for bringing a couple of lads through a great achievment , wish he was part of our development a great bloke and well respected by any player .

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And that is the issue nailed in one. If ( and this is no disrespect to former weaker clubs) we were placing quality such as Ewan Dowes, Liam Watts and say Richard Whiting in our team it would improve the current squad, even though it stinks.

When you are getting sub standard, or at best 'no better' players replacing the established squad players you have already got, itcauses resentment and has an unsettling effect on the team.

We have already lost a long established quality player who was willing to tow his tripe out ( as he always did) but a better offer with long term stability was put his way.

To me if we are going DR we may as well not have fought for the identity of the club all those years ago and gone with the 'Calder Brand' at least we could have enjoyed 'Old father time Kirmond' in full swing.

110% agree. If you are talking about Tommy Saxton, everytime I hear his name i want to go on a rant as to why we ever let him go in the first place.

 

God we've made some shocking decisions.

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Mate said Briggsy had a great game for them today , another impatient impulse wrong decision as well ?

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Sorry, but there was no passion. We need more Kains  not imports who play there own little 1 yard move. Sorry but I paid £50 to see a unorganised team . Some one needs a good talking to or sack him. First time in 3 years lose or win I was gutted.

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What about the experienced 'pivot' / utility who, in my opinion struggled a little, at times, last year but could be devastating on his day and played his finest game against a former club of his, in a 'shock defeat' defeat that would be impossible reproduce now.

He was willing to fight for the cause for 2 more years, but decided against it because of what was on offer and who he'd be coached by. Why risk your spine any longer, when any minute you could be out on your culo?

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Mate said Briggsy had a great game for them today , another impatient impulse wrong decision as well ?

Bussey has got better and better.

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