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Will the Broncos be swallowed up by the Championship?

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Now, if you told me that the likes of Krasniqi, Dollapi, Bishay, McMeeken, Lovell and Griffin were sticking around then perhaps, with the right additions, this would be a team capable of competing at the top end of the Championship - with teams consisting of seasoned veterans and full grown men. The sad truth, however, is that those Londoners will now go on to SL teams where their development will be handled in a much better fashion, and in all likelihood have good careers.

 

The Broncos may not have had any choice in this matter.  The players you mention may not want to stay.  If they want to leave then London have no option but to look to their young players and supplement them with Aussies and/or any northerners who may fancy time spent in London.

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With a little help from their friends.

 

 

Who and how exactly?

 

Facts rather than inuendo if you don't mind.

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With a little help from their friends.

please explain

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Who and how exactly?

Facts rather than inuendo if you don't mind.

Getting promoted from 4th a season the champions weren't promoted seems fairly factual. It made sense given the way the game was going at the time but really made no sense Broncos getting a license this time round.

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Getting promoted from 4th a season the champions weren't promoted seems fairly factual.

Due entirely to an enormous and fundamental change to the entire sport on a global scale.

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Getting promoted from 4th a season the champions weren't promoted seems fairly factual. 

 

Ah, that's explains the bitterness then.

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.Kleanthouse isn't interested in any "deals' . 

 

 

 

And the actual evidence of this is?

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Getting promoted from 4th a season the champions weren't promoted seems fairly factual.

 

 

But then again those finishing fifth in the Super League can get to walk away with the main prize.

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Getting promoted from 4th a season the champions weren't promoted seems fairly factual. It made sense given the way the game was going at the time 

 

Well it did make sense as the game was looking to set up Superleague in South Wales, Toulouse, Paris, & London but the "Champions" were running up a fat unsustainable debt despite being in M62 land and another four first division clubs were leapfrogged who had more of a claim of "foul". 

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Well it did make sense as the game was looking to set up Superleague in South Wales, Toulouse, Paris, & London but the "Champions" were running up a fat unsustainable debt despite being in M62 land and another four first division clubs were leapfrogged who had more of a claim of "foul". 

However you want to dice it or justify it, it certainly wasn't "bottom-up".

 

In a way, Paris and London were victims of the RFL's policies along with Keighley.

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If London make the Middle 8 next year I'll be surprised, but not as surprised as if they manage to start the 2016 season at all. No parachute payment then......Kleanthouse isn't interested in any "deals' and with no home and no fans, the club will fold. 

 

 

Hughes's legacy......? I for one wish he'd walked away last year and forced the RFL's hand. Instead, with their funding of a bribe to the Hive to take us, they managed to save face and got this years fixtures completed.....they didn't need to do anything other than slip Kleanthouse a few bob and the problem went away.

Forced their hand to do what?

 

They've made it clear that they aren't going to do London any special favours beyond what they have already done (said "bribe").

 

Broncos' problem is that Hughes is running them into the ground but without Hughes they would be worse off than Skolars (who at least have a home that is reasonably secure).

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I can never seem to find which year it was in the 90s when the Broncos finished above all the other clubs in their division.

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The Broncos needed to survive to give credibility to the ESL . I stoped going to their games a while ago . If the Catalans fail its finished as a economic proposition for any potential sponsor out of the M25 area. No wonder the Kangaroos don't see the point in playing a GB side. The reality of Londons demotion indicates a far wider malady in the game than one clubs problems.

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And the actual evidence of this is?

 

My source has not fed me bad information about the club and I see no reason why they would start now. Kleanthouse has made it clear that the arrangement for 2014 is not acceptable in 2015 and fundamental changes need to be made. If you doubt this, then fine, but I have been pretty much spot on in regards to most of the activity (sic) surrounding the club for the last 4 years+. If you'd care to go back and examine my posts from when the "2 year" deal was announced, I think you'll find I said then that it was 1 year with an "option".....but the sad state of the club made too many of the fans too uber-grateful to notice or care at the time.

 

The RFL bunged the Hive a "marketing budget" as an incentive to take us in......they have no need to sweeten the pot this time around, so it's cash up front from either Hughes or the central funding parachute payment that AK wants....not 500 or so fans paying 15 quid to watch 2nd rate RL.

 

Brave new dawn? No wonder the useless ##### MacKay sloped off with his tail between his legs once it became obvious the fans weren't buying his particular brand of male genitals.

 

Just because you don't want it to be true and because you can't "see proof" doesn't make it any less true......or have you not noticed the stone cold silence from the club on the matter?

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Who and how exactly?

 

Facts rather than inuendo if you don't mind.

looks like you're whistling in the wind BSJ

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Finding a home is the real problem. ..

cant see a champ side matching their academy and because of this they will have hungry players waiting to prove themselves in a lesser environment. ...

how many fully pro clubs will they be competing against?

Bradford and Leigh?

If so they should make the top 4 but no more...

like mentioned if they settle at a ground/facility( and funding is still provided)with a couple of years yoyoing they will be back at the top table!

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At the moment i'd say next years top 4 will be

Bradfford

Leigh

London

Then a toss up between Fax & fev

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At the moment i'd say next years top 4 will be

Bradfford

Leigh

London

Then a toss up between Fax & fev

 

That's  possible but Batley, Doncaster, Dewsbury and, at a push Haven and a Sheffield returning to form might all just have something to say about that.

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That's  possible but Batley, Doncaster, Dewsbury and, at a push Haven and a Sheffield returning to form might all just have something to say about that.

It would be fantastic if those clubs turned out to be genuine challengers,but i think they need to go fully pro and i dont see that happening.

 

The clubs i mention will be the wealthiest clubs in the league to start with and will be looking for average attendances of 3500 + over the season,unfortunately the clubs you mention will do well to average 1500 at best

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I'm looking forward to watching London next season. I think the second division will be really exciting with some real atmosphere. I can see the number of away fans being high for some games due to the nature of the league "every game counts".

If London squeeze into the top 4 theyll only have to win their home games to get back into SL (on the understanding that second div clubs get the extra home game).

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Not sure if it's already been mentioned somewhere, but it seems Denny Solomona has signed for Cas.

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I'm going to quote from Dave Hadfield's book 'Up and Over' -

'One thing I do know is that , if you took the Broncos out of the equation, the level of interest in the sport in national newspaper offices in and around Canary Wharf would plunge like a computer being thrown out of a 28th-floor window'.

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I'm going to quote from Dave Hadfield's book 'Up and Over' -

'One thing I do know is that , if you took the Broncos out of the equation, the level of interest in the sport in national newspaper offices in and around Canary Wharf would plunge like a computer being thrown out of a 28th-floor window'.

 

I think Hadfield's wrong. The level of interest from the national press is low already.

 

Who are these journalists who only put RL in the papers because the London Broncos are in SL? Oh yes, take away that SL powerhouse that plays in front of around 1,000 diehard souls and we'll stop writing about rugby league. 

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It would be fantastic if those clubs turned out to be genuine challengers,but i think they need to go fully pro and i dont see that happening.

 

The clubs i mention will be the wealthiest clubs in the league to start with and will be looking for average attendances of 3500 + over the season,unfortunately the clubs you mention will do well to average 1500 at best

 

I don't see what the attendances have to do with it. Success on the field is what we are discussing and, going from recent seasons as well as this one, those teams are capable of causing upsets and beating the top clubs or even capable of upsetting the apple cart and forcing their way into the 3 x 8 league.

 

Your list of clubs is the most likely scenario but the clubs I mentioned are indicative of the parity existing in the Championships and the top four might not be as locked in as you think. That's all I am saying. 

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I'm going to quote from Dave Hadfield's book 'Up and Over' -

'One thing I do know is that , if you took the Broncos out of the equation, the level of interest in the sport in national newspaper offices in and around Canary Wharf would plunge like a computer being thrown out of a 28th-floor window'.

 

Well, unfortunately, that's how the cookie has crumbled and there is no one to blame but the Broncos themselves for their predicament.

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