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what has he done for London and its people?

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Freed them from ken livingstone, for a start.

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Freed them from ken livingstone, for a start.

oh dear

you really can do better than that.

What are Johnson's achievements as mayor of London?

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Most of his 'work' will be doing the usual council niff naff and trivia.  Obviously unless you live in London you wont hear about it.

 

We have a directly elected Mayor in Bedford, he's a Liberal Democrat and was still re-elected despite the LD's being toxic.  Why?  Because he's perceived as doing a good job, even then I'd be hard pressed to state a massive achievement.

 

Same with Johnson?  Banned booze on the tube?  Getting a 24hr tube service (soon)?  A successful Olympics? 

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Freed them from ken livingstone, for a start.

Livingstone nearly beat Johnson. had it not been for the vitriolic opposition to him by the Evening Standard he'd probably have won.

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the guy is full value for entertainment. That's why I voted Boris for his first term….plus Ken is a ######

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Bikes!

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no

 

To be fair to him he did implement a bike hire scheme in London although the price did double last year.

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To be fair to him he did implement a bike hire scheme in London although the price did double last year.

it wasn't his idea and his implementation of it butchered the original scheme

 

http://www.rudi.net/node/17720

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no

You say Boris and in word association three things spring to my mind, baboon, clown and Boris Bikes!

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Nothing, he's a useless mayor.  He has top notch PR and reputation management which means everything stupid or unpleasant he does is either laughed off or swept under the carpet.  However, once Livingstone did all the obvious things that needed doing (sorting out Trafalgar Square being one), he just carved up London for the property developer friends he'd cultivated so he could erase the "imperial London" that he hated but people travel from across the planet to see.   Livingstone's favourite trick was to play different minority groups off against each other and get the different Labour-supporting factions in Inner London to try and curry favour with him.  Meanwhile, he at best ignored, at worst thumbed his nose at the suburbs.  "Didn't vote for me, you don't get anything".  Other than obviously favouring Notting Hill/Kensington, I genuinely think that Boris considers himself the mayor of all of London, not just the "Doughnut Coalition" that voted for him.

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Nothing, he's a useless mayor.  He has top notch PR and reputation management which means everything stupid or unpleasant he does is either laughed off or swept under the carpet.  However, once Livingstone did all the obvious things that needed doing (sorting out Trafalgar Square being one), he just carved up London for the property developer friends he'd cultivated so he could erase the "imperial London" that he hated but people travel from across the planet to see.   Livingstone's favourite trick was to play different minority groups off against each other and get the different Labour-supporting factions in Inner London to try and curry favour with him.  Meanwhile, he at best ignored, at worst thumbed his nose at the suburbs.  "Didn't vote for me, you don't get anything".  Other than obviously favouring Notting Hill/Kensington, I genuinely think that Boris considers himself the mayor of all of London, not just the "Doughnut Coalition" that voted for him.

That's the only bit I'd disagree with, the rest is all fair comment.

 

Johnson has forced some incredibly ugly and inappropriate buildings onto communities that were justifiably opposed to them. He's obsessed with re-shaping the London skyline, to the point where he was supporting a 40 storey development in a residential area near me that currently consists entirely of 2 and 3 storey properties. He's an ugly mix of vain and supportive of his developer friends. He's also been complicit in behaviour by the Tory-run Hammermsith and Fulham council that essentially amounts to a cleansing of the poor from that borough, similar to the actions of Westminster and Wandsworth in the 1980's. Luckily, they came unstuck over the future of Charring Cross hospital and got booted out at the recent local elections.

 

The best you can say about BoJo is that he spends the majority of his time maintaining his media profile. He'll need it for his future run at the Tory leadership.

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ayor

I can't argue with that.  However, I think my overall point is that I'm still waiting for a good mayor of London.

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ayor

I can't argue with that.  However, I think my overall point is that I'm still waiting for a good mayor of London.

I'll go along with that.

 

One of the issues, for me anyway, is that both the Mayor and the GLA have very little to do. So much of their potential power currently sits with either national government or local councils. These guys seem to sit somewhere in between and don't really have the power to affect big issues (mainly Westminster), nor the day to day involvement in services (councils).

 

The Mayor ends up spending a lot of his time attending events that would probably be taking place anyway, or inventing ways to look busy (eg Livingstone with his ludicrous tram) while the GLA is nothing more than a talking shop.

 

I'd be interested in taking a look at a genuine City Council, with powers over education, transport, health, etc and then 60-80 local boards that get a set amount to spend per capita on local needs.

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 I went to London some years ago for my sister's 50th birthday. We were going for an evening meal in Greenwich and got held up at every set of traffic lights, often with no traffic moving in any direction. My sister said that MayorLivingstone's policy team had insisted on lights being deliberately set out of sequence and set with overlong delays for pedestrian crossing. This was to "encourage" motorists to use public transport or taxis, both of which could use segregated traffic lanes.

 

I decided there and then that Livingstone was an arrogant ###### who deserved to get several of his beloved newts shoved down his throat with nothing less than excessive force.

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I'll go along with that.

 

One of the issues, for me anyway, is that both the Mayor and the GLA have very little to do. So much of their potential power currently sits with either national government or local councils. These guys seem to sit somewhere in between and don't really have the power to affect big issues (mainly Westminster), nor the day to day involvement in services (councils).

 

The Mayor ends up spending a lot of his time attending events that would probably be taking place anyway, or inventing ways to look busy (eg Livingstone with his ludicrous tram) while the GLA is nothing more than a talking shop.

 

I'd be interested in taking a look at a genuine City Council, with powers over education, transport, health, etc and then 60-80 local boards that get a set amount to spend per capita on local needs.

That's about what I think.  They're a talking shop to keep bored people busy sitting in their weird little City Hall.  The most important job of the mayor really is as head PR guy for the city and in that you'd have to be a serious curmudgeon to even think for a second that Boris isn't doing a great job.  At the time of the Beijing Olympics when the flag was handed over to Boris I was working with a large company that had a huge Chinese presence, the locals couldn't stop talking about that huge blonde bear of a mayor.  Quite probably the most distinctive city mayor in the world, go to most countries and they've at least heard of him unlike most forgettable mayors.

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 I went to London some years ago for my sister's 50th birthday. We were going for an evening meal in Greenwich and got held up at every set of traffic lights, often with no traffic moving in any direction. My sister said that MayorLivingstone's policy team had insisted on lights being deliberately set out of sequence and set with overlong delays for pedestrian crossing. This was to "encourage" motorists to use public transport or taxis, both of which could use segregated traffic lanes.

 

I decided there and then that Livingstone was an arrogant ###### who deserved to get several of his beloved newts shoved down his throat with nothing less than excessive force.

so your sister was privy to the decision making of Ken Livingstone? Do you have any other evidence apart from this, obviously credible first hand information? Just to be on the safe side kind of thing.

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That's about what I think.  They're a talking shop to keep bored people busy sitting in their weird little City Hall.  The most important job of the mayor really is as head PR guy for the city and in that you'd have to be a serious curmudgeon to even think for a second that Boris isn't doing a great job.  At the time of the Beijing Olympics when the flag was handed over to Boris I was working with a large company that had a huge Chinese presence, the locals couldn't stop talking about that huge blonde bear of a mayor.  Quite probably the most distinctive city mayor in the world, go to most countries and they've at least heard of him unlike most forgettable mayors.

but that wasn't the idea was it? The template was to be the hands on get things done of say the Mayor of New York.

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so your sister was privy to the decision making of Ken Livingstone? Do you have any other evidence apart from this, obviously credible first hand information? Just to be on the safe side kind of thing.

 

'Two years ago former mayor Ken Livingstone was accused by the RAC Foundation and the Tories of rephasing lights to slow down traffic and force people out of their cars and onto other forms of transport.

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Traffic signal adjustments had already begun, he said, focusing on the capital's "most important signals". Timings at about 150 sets of traffic lights had been altered since July, giving "significant extra capacity".

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078077/Every-traffic-light-London-programmed-drive-cut-jams.html

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'Two years ago former mayor Ken Livingstone was accused by the RAC Foundation and the Tories of rephasing lights to slow down traffic and force people out of their cars and onto other forms of transport.

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Traffic signal adjustments had already begun, he said, focusing on the capital's "most important signals". Timings at about 150 sets of traffic lights had been altered since July, giving "significant extra capacity".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078077/Every-traffic-light-London-programmed-drive-cut-jams.html

Now you're cheesed off, aren't you.

Since when has the Wail counted as evidence? :dry:

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Since when has the Wail counted as evidence? :dry:

 

The re-timing details were announced by Transport for London.

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'Two years ago former mayor Ken Livingstone was accused by the RAC Foundation and the Tories of rephasing lights to slow down traffic and force people out of their cars and onto other forms of transport.

...

Traffic signal adjustments had already begun, he said, focusing on the capital's "most important signals". Timings at about 150 sets of traffic lights had been altered since July, giving "significant extra capacity".

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078077/Every-traffic-light-London-programmed-drive-cut-jams.html

as it says at the top this was an allegation by a motoring organisation.

even then it says nothing about the motives behind it that you and your relative ascribe to it.

 

And anyway this thread is about the current mayor Boris Johnson, although to be fair, Johnson does have an involvement in that he changed the phasing of the lights. Is this his legacy?

 

Why not start a thread about the achievements of Livingston during tenure as mayor.

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