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The re-timing details were announced by Transport for London.

does it say anything about Livingston's motivation in the announcement?

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'Two years ago former mayor Ken Livingstone was accused by the RAC Foundation and the Tories of rephasing lights to slow down traffic and force people out of their cars and onto other forms of transport.

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Traffic signal adjustments had already begun, he said, focusing on the capital's "most important signals". Timings at about 150 sets of traffic lights had been altered since July, giving "significant extra capacity".

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078077/Every-traffic-light-London-programmed-drive-cut-jams.html

 

And the result of Boris Johnson's desire to get TfL to 'smooth traffic flow' has been an increase in pedestrian injuries as there is no longer enough time for most people to safely cross the road.

 

Still, as long as those black cabs have nothing to moan to the RAC Foundation about ...

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That's about what I think.  They're a talking shop to keep bored people busy sitting in their weird little City Hall.  The most important job of the mayor really is as head PR guy for the city and in that you'd have to be a serious curmudgeon to even think for a second that Boris isn't doing a great job.  At the time of the Beijing Olympics when the flag was handed over to Boris I was working with a large company that had a huge Chinese presence, the locals couldn't stop talking about that huge blonde bear of a mayor.  Quite probably the most distinctive city mayor in the world, go to most countries and they've at least heard of him unlike most forgettable mayors.

 

Honestly never thought about it like that but you are right.  However, he and his team are so lousy at the governing thing that I can't forgive him because he's a PR master.

 

 

I'll go along with that.

 

One of the issues, for me anyway, is that both the Mayor and the GLA have very little to do. So much of their potential power currently sits with either national government or local councils. These guys seem to sit somewhere in between and don't really have the power to affect big issues (mainly Westminster), nor the day to day involvement in services (councils).

 

The Mayor ends up spending a lot of his time attending events that would probably be taking place anyway, or inventing ways to look busy (eg Livingstone with his ludicrous tram) while the GLA is nothing more than a talking shop.

 

I'd be interested in taking a look at a genuine City Council, with powers over education, transport, health, etc and then 60-80 local boards that get a set amount to spend per capita on local needs.

 

On another board, I suggested busting the current situation in Greater London with a genuine city council.  Our councils are full of little empire builders who don't see the genuine big picture.  Does Croydon need to be "London's third city" or is it the case that for years, their council have been trying to raise the importance of their biggest settlement at the expense of the rest of their borough.  A small green gets built upon on the edge of a borough and the view of a council is it doesn't mean much but it may be a key park for people just over the boundary.  Here in Bromley, the view is about getting everything in the middle of the borough, ignoring that the vast majority of the population are in the north of the borough and that the majority of that are in the north-west corner.

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And the result of Boris Johnson's desire to get TfL to 'smooth traffic flow' has been an increase in pedestrian injuries as there is no longer enough time for most people to safely cross the road.

 

Still, as long as those black cabs have nothing to moan to the RAC Foundation about ...

 

 

[l'Angelo Mode] Have you got any documentary evidence of this or is it just the opinion of you and your sister?

Even if you have got evidence, I don't think it counts and I'll just ask another question.

[l'Angelo Mode]

 

;)

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[l'Angelo Mode] Have you got any documentary evidence of this or is it just the opinion of you and your sister?

Even if you have got evidence, I don't think it counts and I'll just ask another question.

[l'Angelo Mode]

;)

Act your age

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[l'Angelo Mode] Have you got any documentary evidence of this or is it just the opinion of you and your sister?

Even if you have got evidence, I don't think it counts and I'll just ask another question.

[l'Angelo Mode]

 

;)

 

My sister's opinion is that she'll shoot you if you disagree.

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My sister's opinion is that she'll shoot you if you disagree.

anyway

 

 

so far we've got the changing of the sequence of some traffic like signals. Hell of an achievement.

 

Wolford's sister says they were dead dead bad in the first place were these signals  because Ken Livingstone wanted to annoy people. This must be true.

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anyway

 

 

so far we've got the changing of the sequence of some traffic like signals. Hell of an achievement.

 

Wolford's sister says they were dead dead bad in the first place were these signals  because Ken Livingstone wanted to annoy people. This must be true.

 

Boris has also introduced countdown clocks so you know you have a whole 20 seconds to get a cross four lanes of traffic outside Charing Cross station.

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To be fair though, BoJo like Ken, knows the job isn't about what you do but what you're perceived to do and making a noise.  It's why he keeps talking about building London's next airport in a bit of the country over which he actually has no control at all, why he's forever linking the bits of London he can sell to big businesses who want to put their name on things, and so on.

 

Ken's main 'win', from memory, was bus fares and improved routes.  He might have made a lot of noise about other things but what he can actually 'do' is limited.

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To be fair though, BoJo like Ken, knows the job isn't about what you do but what you're perceived to do and making a noise.  It's why he keeps talking about building London's next airport in a bit of the country over which he actually has no control at all, why he's forever linking the bits of London he can sell to big businesses who want to put their name on things, and so on.

 

Ken's main 'win', from memory, was bus fares and improved routes.  He might have made a lot of noise about other things but what he can actually 'do' is limited.

Ken's greatest achievement as far as I'm concerned is the Oyster card setup.  A fairly flawless project done on time and budget at a time when it seemed that no big public sector project could be done without doubling cost for half quality.

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Anyone else watching those Crossrail construction docs on BBC2?

 

They are really good.

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Anyone else watching those Crossrail construction docs on BBC2?

They are really good.

At £15bn they ought to be. :rolleyes:

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Anyone else watching those Crossrail construction docs on BBC2?

They are really good.

Is this one of boris' achievements?

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Surely the Crossrail project was signed off years before the ascent of Boris.

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Surely the Crossrail project was signed off years before the ascent of Boris.

Defending Boris twice in one thread here!  When the Coalition came into power in 2010 they looked to kill off all big-budget things that weren't created by them or their "friends", Crossrail was a definite target and Boris certainly made few friends in Westminster with his defence of it.  There were some big old rumours about meetings without coffee between Boris and that odious Pickles bloke.

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The Crossrail project actually started around 1992 within London Underground. This it has only taken 22 years to get to its present state.

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I'm not. What Bradford has needed for the past forty years is a leader (the Bradford Mayorship is a ceremonial position) with drive, integrity and no qualms about refusing to pander to a social grouping or political party.

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I'm not. What Bradford has needed for the past forty years is a leader (the Bradford Mayorship is a ceremonial position) with drive, integrity and no qualms about refusing to pander to a social grouping or political party.

An elected representative is far more likely to pander to a specific group or political party than a faceless unelected department.  After all, the elected representative's main task is to not annoy those who will re-elect them and keep them in a job.

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Within the last five years we have had elected representatives sent to prison for vote-rigging. One person with a previous conviction for electoral fraud stood in the recent council elections! In the year of the last general election we had one candidate who stood for two different parties in the two elections.

 

At the moment, we have unrest about certain developers ignoring their planning consent restrictions and then just submitting retrospective applications that go through on the nod.

 

You only have to see the current furore over the school systems to see that the council has willfully mismanaged and/or ignored its responsibilities ... that indictment applies to councillors and officers alike.

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Don't mayors have to get re elected?

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We have had a directly elected Mayor in Bedford for a few years now.  Seems to work ok.  Mayor appoints various councillors to his team (not based on rosette colour) and they just get on with it (mainly).  I hate party politics at the council level, it just causes grief when there should be teamwork and consensus.  

 

First 7 years were an independent (elected twice then unfortunately died).

 

Since then we have had a Lib Dem (elected twice). 

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Don't mayors have to get re elected?

 

 

The Leader of Bradford Council is elected by the ruling party. Currently, it's the Labour Party. Whether the electorate would directly elect a cockney bloke who wears a big earring in each ear and no record as a managing executive or businessman is a moot point.

 

The Mayor of Bradford Council is decided by  buggins turn. If you stay a councillor for long enough, eventually it will be your turn.

 

In the Labour-advocated mayoral election, you vote directly for the person who will direct the council depts and will accept responsibilty for its policies and actions.

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An elected representative is far more likely to pander to a specific group or political party than a faceless unelected department.  After all, the elected representative's main task is to not annoy those who will re-elect them and keep them in a job.

 

Ken 'pandered' to inner London, Boris to zones 4-6 (and a sprinkling of west London).  Both managed to be elected on pitiful turnouts.

 

That's the danger of giving so much power to one person - the election comes down to personality, most of the population switch off long before polling day, and only a narrow range of interests get represented.

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The Leader of Bradford Council is elected by the ruling party. Currently, it's the Labour Party. Whether the electorate would directly elect a cockney bloke who wears a big earring in each ear and no record as a managing executive or businessman is a moot point.

The Mayor of Bradford Council is decided by buggins turn. If you stay a councillor for long enough, eventually it will be your turn.

In the Labour-advocated mayoral election, you vote directly for the person who will direct the council depts and will accept responsibilty for its policies and actions.

I think you misunderstand

This thread is about Boris Johnson

Mr Johnson is the mayor of London and is elected by the citizens of London

London has an elected mayor. This was what I was referring to

What the political machinations of the city of Bradford have to do with anything I really couldn't say

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