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stop being thick then...

 

 

if you can't get your head around the difference between a handful of wealthy businessmen running a club and hundreds/thousands of "fans" running a club in the form of a supporters trust.....then don't comment

 

 

the original poster was fairly clear in what he meant by "could fans run a club"....you are the only one thats doesn't grasp it

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stop being thick then...

if you can't get your head around the difference between a handful of wealthy businessmen running a club and hundreds/thousands of "fans" running a club in the form of a supporters trust.....then don't comment

the original poster was fairly clear in what he meant by "could fans run a club"....you are the only one thats doesn't grasp it

The people who run clubs and put millions of pounds into them and spend hours of their time working for them are fans.

Are you saying that ken Davy isn't a fan?

I am a season ticket holder at a club run by a supporters trust. You are being condescending as well as abusive

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The people who run clubs and put millions of pounds into them and spend hours of their time working for them are fans.

I am a season ticket holder at a club run by a supporters trust. You are being condescending as well as abusive

 

good for them...but the original poster is'nt on about "those fans"

 

and as a season ticket holder of a club run by a supporters trust then you know exactly what the original poster is going on about and you're being deliberately obtuse..

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North Wales Crusaders have a different model to HIST and Rochdale.

 

Our club was formed after the demise of the Super League club Crusaders RL withdrew their franchise bid and went bust.  The fans started the "Save the Cru" campaign which led to our club being formed. True we have a businessman as out CEO and a Board of Directors but the club is run on "not for profit" lines and any money generated is put back into the club.

 

We have approx. 600 season ticket holders. For the last 2 years those of us who can have been Bondholders - contributing an additional revenue stream to the club.  This season we have tried a different scheme called Squadbuider. Those who are members contribute an additional £5.99 a month during the playing season. For that we get access to a matchday bar, a video (with commentary) of each home game, we are due a jacket or hoodie, we have update meetings with the board , and a reduction on our ticket for the end of season dinner. 

 

Please note - this is not the NWC Supporters Club - that is a different body which has been set up to support the club from the terraces. Membership is £10 per season - benefits include a gift (a thermal mug this season), and £2 reduction per away game  travel on the Supporters Club coach. The Supporters Club has donated funds to players getting national honours and to various charities, including rugby league charities.

 

I hope this is helpful. Good luck with developing a team wherever you are setting up. I'm sure the RFL will be a good source of information - as is Supporters Direct - they were both really helpful when North Wales Crusaders were starting up.

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North Wales Crusaders have a different model to HIST and Rochdale.

Our club was formed after the demise of the Super League club Crusaders RL withdrew their franchise bid and went bust. The fans started the "Save the Cru" campaign which led to our club being formed. True we have a businessman as out CEO and a Board of Directors but the club is run on "not for profit" lines and any money generated is put back into the club.

We have approx. 600 season ticket holders. For the last 2 years those of us who can have been Bondholders - contributing an additional revenue stream to the club. This season we have tried a different scheme called Squadbuider. Those who are members contribute an additional £5.99 a month during the playing season. For that we get access to a matchday bar, a video (with commentary) of each home game, we are due a jacket or hoodie, we have update meetings with the board , and a reduction on our ticket for the end of season dinner.

Please note - this is not the NWC Supporters Club - that is a different body which has been set up to support the club from the terraces. Membership is £10 per season - benefits include a gift (a thermal mug this season), and £2 reduction per away game travel on the Supporters Club coach. The Supporters Club has donated funds to players getting national honours and to various charities, including rugby league charities.

I hope this is helpful. Good luck with developing a team wherever you are setting up. I'm sure the RFL will be a good source of information - as is Supporters Direct - they were both really helpful when North Wales Crusaders were starting up.

Brilliant

Let's hope it works out

Clubs like yours are needed

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Aye. Wigan are really struggling at the DW.

 

Well Wigan Athletic are no longer a Premier league club. When they were Wigan had to play at least one game at another venue and had to rearrange several others because the premier league would not allow rugby games to be played at a premier league venue with a certain time limit of a Premier League game being scheduled. Hull KR have no such problems.

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Well Wigan Athletic are no longer a Premier league club. When they were Wigan had to play at least one game at another venue and had to rearrange several others because the premier league would not allow rugby games to be played at a premier league venue with a certain time limit of a Premier League game being scheduled. Hull KR have no such problems.

any chance of you saying what this has got to do with the thread?

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Well Wigan Athletic are no longer a Premier league club. When they were Wigan had to play at least one game at another venue and had to rearrange several others because the premier league would not allow rugby games to be played at a premier league venue with a certain time limit of a Premier League game being scheduled. Hull KR have no such problems.

 

Hull KR have no such problems.

 

​Really? I reckon they'd swap places with Wigan any day, especially after today.  In any case, the Wigan situation you describe is hardly problematical, as you well know. 

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any chance of you saying what this has got to do with the thread?

 

Sorry, L'Ange. Its my fault for responding to the assertion made in his post # 22

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any chance of you saying what this has got to do with the thread?

 

It relates back directly to your suggestion that Pearson was a fan and runs Hull FC and these problems with sharing with a Premier League soccer club are part of his problems and it was suggested he may have been better off investing in some other club. It was you who went off on the tangent of owners being fans rather than supporters trust governing bodies for clubs which was the original thrust of the thread.

 

I should not have gone off on that tangent with you. I sincerely apologise. Are you happy now ?

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Hull KR have no such problems.

 

​Really? I reckon they'd swap places with Wigan any day, especially after today.  In any case, the Wigan situation you describe is hardly problematical, as you well know. 

 

It is not a problem now. It was when they were dictated to on the use of their shared stadium by another sports governing body as well YOU know.

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It relates back directly to your suggestion that Pearson was a fan and runs Hull FC and these problems with sharing with a Premier League soccer club are part of his problems and it was suggested he may have been better off investing in some other club. It was you who went off on the tangent of owners being fans rather than supporters trust governing bodies for clubs which was the original thrust of the thread.

 

I should not have gone off on that tangent with you. I sincerely apologise. Are you happy now ?

well is Perason a fan or isn't he? Does he help run a club or doesn't he?

The rest is irrelevant.

 

Within the structure prescribed by law and the RFL there are several ways of running a club, 'supporters' trusts' and so on. My point is that however you look at it, whatever the structure, all clubs are run by fans.

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well is Perason a fan or isn't he? Does he help run a club or doesn't he?

The rest is irrelevant.

 

Within the structure prescribed by law and the RFL there are several ways of running a club, 'supporters' trusts' and so on. My point is that however you look at it, whatever the structure, all clubs are run by fans.

 

 

well is Perason a fan or isn't he? Does he help run a club or doesn't he?

The rest is irrelevant.

 

Within the structure prescribed by law and the RFL there are several ways of running a club, 'supporters' trusts' and so on. My point is that however you look at it, whatever the structure, all clubs are run by fans.

 

When I meet Caddick in a pub I'll tell him I'm a Leeds fan and want a say in how the club is run and then duck.

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When I meet Caddick in a pub I'll tell him I'm a Leeds fan and want a say in how the club is run and then duck.

good for you.

 

 

Caddick of course is a fan as well

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It is not a problem now. It was when they were dictated to on the use of their shared stadium by another sports governing body as well YOU know.

It was categorically not a problem. You wanted it to be, of course, so you must have been terribly disappointed when the rugby league world did note rise up in open rebellion....and you know what, the world still turned....

Ps. Wigan is run by fans of the club on a very socialist principle. Those fans with the most money pay the most money, those fans with the least, pay the least.

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It was categorically not a problem. You wanted it to be, of course, so you must have been terribly disappointed when the rugby league world did note rise up in open rebellion....and you know what, the world still turned....

Ps. Wigan is run by fans of the club on a very socialist principle. Those fans with the most money pay the most money, those fans with the least, pay the least.

 

In Sept 2008 Wigan had to switch a playoff game against Bradford Bulls to the Widnes Stadium because Wigan Athletic had a fixture at the DW two days later. How much revenue do you think Wigan lost on that from a smaller than average crowd and probably having to pay Widnes or the owners to rent the stadium there. Not a problem. OK.

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Correct. Not a problem.

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Could fans run a club? help spread the game . I was interested in response Bradford got when in crisis . Lets say if something was set up to help run and fund a club like south wales scorpions for example ( Ive selected this team as there bottom of the league and based in an area where RL are desperate to get established) OK  so here goes as a member you pay a monthly fee say £20 for 12 months which equals £240 a year .Imagine if you could get 10,000 members world wide . In return as a member you would get a members pass to all home games ie season ticket . An exclusive members badge . Every home match day programme sent to you . A new shirt every season of your choice either home or away . A members monthly prize draw with cash prizes .Any other ideas ?

Could this be done ?   

Yes - Rochdale Hornets were the first pro-side to do it.

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So he's a fan then

I presume you're insinuating all rugby fans know sod all about the game in this post and include yourself in this sweeping generalisation.

Hull FC was just another business acquisition for Pearson, the seventh in his portfolio. He was not a fan of the game and knew nothing about it when he bought the club.

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care to expand on that?

how much do members pay,what members get etc??

At Hunslet they pay about £15 a year and for that they get Gary Hetheringtnn telling them who to play and there happy because they aren't all there

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I presume you're insinuating all rugby fans know sod all about the game in this post and include yourself in this sweeping generalisation.

Hull FC was just another business acquisition for Pearson, the seventh in his portfolio. He was not a fan of the game and knew nothing about it when he bought the club.

of course. I know knack all.

 

MM it was a little bit of levity.

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At Hunslet they pay about £15 a year and for that they get Gary Hetheringtnn telling them who to play and there happy because they aren't all there

No they don't

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