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could fans run a club

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The Hetherington part of your statement.

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Ok he doesnt then. He tells Barry Eaton who to pick remember Ryan Bailey

no he doesn't.

If anyone was to tell Barry Eaton to pick Ryan Bailey it wold be Brian McDermott, but he didn't and doesn't.

 

Barry Eaton picks the team. His partner in team matters is the estimable Darren Williams the Hawks' football manager: but of course being an expert in all things Hunslet Hawks, you already know this.

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no he doesn't.

If anyone was to tell Barry Eaton to pick Ryan Bailey it wold be Brian McDermott, but he didn't and doesn't.

 

Barry Eaton picks the team. His partner in team matters is the estimable Darren Williams the Hawks' football manager: but of course being an expert in all things Hunslet Hawks, you already know this.

Obviously not.

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no he doesn't.

If anyone was to tell Barry Eaton to pick Ryan Bailey it wold be Brian McDermott, but he didn't and doesn't.

Barry Eaton picks the team. His partner in team matters is the estimable Darren Williams the Hawks' football manager: but of course being an expert in all things Hunslet Hawks, you already know this.

I thought Mark Cass was his assistant

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I thought Mark Cass was his assistant

he is, and I'm sure he is involved in assessment of players and their performance, but the ultimate decision is taken by Mr Eaton. HTH

Darren Williams doesn't have a role in team selection, and I didn't say that he did.

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he is, and I'm sure he is involved in assessment of players and their performance, but the ultimate decision is taken by Mr Eaton. HTH

Darren Williams doesn't have a role in team selection, and I didn't say that he did.

What does Mr Williams do then

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What does Mr Williams do then

he, as surely you must know, and as I've already said is the Hawks' football manager.

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he, as surely you must know, and as I've already said is the Hawks' football manager.

His job title is director of rugby but what exactly does he do

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His job title is director of rugby but what exactly does he do

That's right...you've been doing a bit of research haven't you? Well played and good on you for making a bit of an effort. Football manager is a more colloquial way of putting it.

Tell you what, you go away and have a think and do a bit of research and see what you can come up with, you've shown that you can do it, and I'll tell you if you are right.

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who's being condescending now eh lol

 

 

 

 

how about we steer this back towards talking about whether fans can run RL clubs......we all know mr drake is abit trigger happy on the "lock" but theses days ;)......joke 

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who's being condescending now eh lol

how about we steer this back towards talking about whether fans can run RL clubs......we all know mr drake is abit trigger happy on the "lock" but theses days ;)......joke

It was a bit of laying it on with a trowel joshing

I'm sure mr lion got it or will get it.

The conversation between us is very much about fans running clubs: check out the constitution of the hawks, already mentioned on here, and darren Williams has been a fan of the club for probably all his life. He is a dedicated very able sports administrator working for the club he supports

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aye ive read it when researching my proposal for ORLFC

 

 

personally i think its the future for most clubs outside of super league....most of us are all waiting for a "sugar daddy" to come along and bail our clubs out....yet with a decently priced membership scheme most clubs won't need a sugar daddy imo

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Daz williams has supported the club all his life but i still dont know what he does besides for picking up his pay packet at least big Al ran the bar and did other chores

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Daz williams has supported the club all his life but i still dont know what he does besides for picking up his pay packet at least big Al ran the bar and did other chores

Darren does lots if other stuff as well. He's had a lot to do with the setting up of the 'I Am Hunslet' initiative. He's certainly the go to person if I have any issues regarding it.

Director of Rugby I guess has responsibilities and joint involvements regarding players

Scouting

Contracts

Player recruitment

Player welfare

Control of player budget

Player discipline

And probably other stuff

If you are genuinely interested I'll ask him for you if you like, but you seem acquainted with him anyway.

If you are a hawks fan we could have a beer if you like

I think big al is now involved with Wortley Dragons.

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I thought you was a Fev supporter

I'm a graham king season ticket holder at hunslet, I also worked for the hawks as programme editor for several years

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Are there any Championship/NCL clubs offering membership schemes that would be of interest to non-fans and that are easy to sign up to?  (ie you can do it all online!).

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care to expand on that?

 

how much do members pay,what members get etc??

If you go to hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk and click on membership, the details are in there. We have Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum packages with ascending monthly contributions.

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I like the membership idea.

 

Some take it to far though, My Football Club at Ebbsfleet by all accounts was a bit of a disaster although I think they learned and moved on to Slough having modified the scheme.

 

I'd put up some money for sure in monthly membership if a club put together an imaginative enough package and the payment method was easy, in my case I'd probably be more attracted to a club outside of the heartlands, but do have soft spots for a number of Championship clubs.

Ebbsfleet put the Supporters Trust Movement and Fans ownership of clubs back a long way with their bizarre ideas.

 

There are three pro RL clubs set up as Fans owned Clubs, Hemel, Rochdale and Hunslet. 

 

The principle is the same as a cooperative, where it's one member one vote, regardless of contirbution.

 

If you want to know more about the Supporters direct model and how it can work in RL, come along to our Fans day in Huddersfield on the 25th October, more details http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/31108/make-your-voice-heard-at or check out SD's website www.supporters-direct.org

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I would love to see more (all?) clubs run democratically by the supporters - A not for profit industrial provident society. 

 

Each member should pay a standard x and have 1 vote regardless of whether x = 1mio GBP.

 

Members should vote on a board and then the board run the club on behalf of the members and the clubs constitution.

 

To answer the original post, can this work? Why not?

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I would love to see this at all levels of the game.  I think for the larger Super League clubs - if they could get 20,000 plus members (for the RL, but also non-RL activities - e.g.  Leagues Club or activities for children / young people) they could be great organisations, making a profit that is reinvested back into the sport and into the community.

 

Whilst Hemel, Rochdale and Hunslet are wholly owned by supporters - are there any clubs which have representation from Supporters Trusts on the board?

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Hold on.....so if 10k supporters then there would need to be a 'lead' fan / group of lead fans....each paying by DD and get a shirt and ST....for 240 quid

as appose to a wealthy fan/fans who buys a club and sells 10k ST and a shirt for 240 quid with the choice of DD payments.....

whats the difference then?

Each option could lead to bad decisions....the first one more so as if 10k people had to be balloted for every decision it would take time and bad choices would be made as fans chased success over good buisness practice.....there would also be infighting with individuals trying to sway any vote in their favour!

The wealthy owner/owners is better model....after all they are wealthy for a reason....

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