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Two clubs down from SL this year namely Bradford and London. Then next season of which they will be part of the Championship after 23 rounds the SL which will now be 12 cllubs the bottom 4 of that twelve combine with the top four of the Championship to form the 8 club league. Of those 8 clubs who play each other only once and the top three go into Sl. The fourth and fifth clubs have a play off for the final fourth place in SL. That means, if we get in our championship top four, we have to compete with 6 SL clubs for the top four places. Two which were relegated this season and the bottom four of the SL after 23 rounds. Added to that woe is the fact that the bottom four will have received £1.8 million and even Bradford will get £780,000. Our top payment in the Championship will be £500,000. Additionally the salary cap for the Championship will be £1 million against SL clubs 1.8 million.

It seems very clear that the powers that be want the bottom four SL clubs back. It will be very difficult to compete on those terms

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Did you expect them to make it easy? I would hazard a guess that if Dewsbury and Batley( if we both stay in this division) were extremely fortunate enough to gain entry to SL at the end of next season the  RFL rule book would go out of the window. The new rule would be that all teams beginning with the letter D or B are no longer allowed to play in SL due to Sky requirements, subject to bye law 42 which states that  this rule be waivered providing you have Bulls in your second name and bye law 43 which states that this must not contain Dog.    

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Did you expect them to make it easy? I would hazard a guess that if Dewsbury and Batley( if we both stay in this division) were extremely fortunate enough to gain entry to SL at the end of next season the  RFL rule book would go out of the window. The new rule would be that all teams beginning with the letter D or B are no longer allowed to play in SL due to Sky requirements, subject to bye law 42 which states that  this rule be waivered providing you have Bulls in your second name and bye law 43 which states that this must not contain Dog.    

....or any team that has been called a set of traffic lights between Wakey and Pontefract;

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Same old SL just looking after SL now news there then and the championship being s### on again is there no justice in this game

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Money, money, money. Sky will be the death knell of our sport below SL level. Divide and conquer, thats the way to do it.

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I specialise in the treatment of paranoia and persecution complex lads!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Don't see the problem with it every club had there say and Fev is one club that is all for the new system People complained of the 3 year licence some are never happy

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If Bradford and London think they are going to get their own way, then they need to think again.

 

A more compressed Champioship with Quality, with Leigh, Fev and Halifax chomping at the bit and other decent outfits to knock them off their game as well.

 

It will be difficult to get to SL, but it is better than it was.

 

I think next year is going to be fantastic and Leigh and Fev need to give the Bulls and the Broncos hell !!

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Think we need to drop the cynicism a bit now. Plenty said London wouldn't be "allowed" to drop out of SL but it's happening (& the "iconic" Bulls). The chance is there, and one of next season's Championship top 4 is guaranteed to get into at the very least a play-off for a SL place. Come the second half of 2014 and I suspect there will be at least one current SL team that has struggled, is short of confidence and ripe for the taking, and the whole set-up doesn't suggest (to me anyway) that the RFL don't want any promotions.

 

The door is a lot more open than it has been for years, anyway.

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If Fev get promoted how long do we think it will be until the novelity wears off? Dont get me wrong we are all up for the challenge but lets be under no illusions it going to be v.tough.

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If Bradford and London think they are going to get their own way, then they need to think again.

 

A more compressed Champioship with Quality, with Leigh, Fev and Halifax chomping at the bit and other decent outfits to knock them off their game as well.

 

It will be difficult to get to SL, but it is better than it was.

 

I think next year is going to be fantastic and Leigh and Fev need to give the Bulls and the Broncos hell !!

 Yes and then we have to play the bottom four SL clubs to gain promotion with all the financial hangups that go with it.

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Yes and then we have to play the bottom four SL clubs to gain promotion with all the financial hangups that go with it.

Play the bottom 4 S/L clubs at home bigger crowd something to play for and more money into the club We won't get into S/L for a few year yet so don't worry who we play and we have to finish in the top 4 of our league to play them which is not certain at all with Leigh Bradford and London being full time

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When you look at the cup results when Championship clubs play SL then added to that fact that they will be getting around four times more from RL then you are right about us not getting into SL and you make a good point about having to get into the Championship top four next season after 23 games with Bradford, L<ondon, Leigh, Halifax and Donny having a few things to say. Don't forget in the eight club league consisting of the top four Championship clubs and the bottom four Sl clubs only seven fixtures will be played. If we do qualify for the middle eight it will be interesting to see how home advantage in the fixtures is decided. It is also stated that the fourth club in this league will have a play off with the fifth club to decide on the fourth team to qualify. Gives a bit of hope but we need vast improvement.

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I specialise in the treatment of paranoia and persecution complex lads!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aye Robin and I am a good fortune teller

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Play the bottom 4 S/L clubs at home bigger crowd something to play for and more money into the club We won't get into S/L for a few year yet so don't worry who we play and we have to finish in the top 4 of our league to play them which is not certain at all with Leigh Bradford and London being full time

Should we write to the RFL then. and ask for the points back that we should have won at Workington and Rochdale? Because they were on a much lower wage bill than Fev and had no right to beat them.......but they did!

Any club that has the same injury and back room problems that we've had this season will be there for the taking, just like we were at Spotland and Derwent Park. Big money signings can't win you games from the treatment table, so who knows?

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Should we write to the RFL then. and ask for the points back that we should have won at Workington and Rochdale? Because they were on a much lower wage bill than Fev and had no right to beat them.......but they did!

Any club that has the same injury and back room problems that we've had this season will be there for the taking, just like we were at Spotland and Derwent Park. Big money signings can't win you games from the treatment table, so who knows?

Why would we write to the RFL for our lose don't get your point from what I posted

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Cheer up lads, they have renamed next years championship as Super League 2 ......so you have already made it to Super League.

That's said, so will York on current tables.

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Why would we write to the RFL for our lose don't get your point from what I posted

It was just a joke JT, what I meant was that Rochdale and Workington had no right to beat us on wages spend, but they smelled blood and we were there for the taking. What we have been going through lately can also happen at other clubs and those that lose their team spirit after finishing in the bottom 4 will have a tough job to regain it for the middle group, regardless of how many stars they have.

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Don't see the problem with it every club had there say and Fev is one club that is all for the new system People complained of the 3 year licence some are never happy

 Not the system as it is better than the licence idea, but the huge difference between the funding of SL clubs and the hopeful participants from the Championship makes it a very uneven contest. Our league top team gets £500k the rest a lot less. The SL clubs apart from Bradford will receive £1.8 million. That could be nine times more than some championship clubs. That makes them able to recruit from anywhere, and their salary cap is far greater. The point I am making is yes some games can be won, but the RFL have done their best to ensure that the bottom four are going straight back up.

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The new structure is more to do with making every game count which it will As for the middle 8 if all goes to plan 1 S|L club will play one championship club in a million pound match as a grand final If you ask any supporter in our league I bet they would prefer to support there club in this match than go to Warrington or Leeds this year watch there team win go home with a few quid then just watch them try to do the same the year after Been 80 minutes from S|L will create more interest in the game We need to all back this now and build to be that team who could be 80 minutes from the top league I certainly would of liked to see this seasons Leigh team play London would you be convinced they wouldn't turn them over The only 2 negatives I can see is S/L going to 12 teams and why the million pound game is not on a neutral ground . That should be taken up by the championship clubs as people say it will be hard but to have to play the 4th team probably S/L at home will make it more difficult

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Possible middle eight next year:

 

Hull/Salford/Catalan

Widnes

Hull KR

Wakefield

Bradford

Leigh

Fev

London/Halifax.

 

Four of those to SL. We'd be in with a shout on our best form.

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lack of funding blamed for Bradford's demise. On what the Championship clubs are getting against the SL clubs bottom four it will be very hard. New regs for dual reg might help. Keeping fingers crossed.

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For a Championship club NOT to go up, both of the following will have to happen:

1) Three of the bottom four SL clubs fill the first three places in the Qualifiers

2) The worst-performing SL cub in the Qualifiers finishes fourth or fifth and then beats the best-performing Championship club (who will have also finished fourth or fifth) in the Million Pound game.

 

It's probable that one or two of the SL clubs will finish first & second in the play-offs. But I reckon it's also likely that one, maybe two of the SL four will be struggling, low on morale & out of form at the time the Qualifiers come along, and that one, maybe two of the Championship sides are on a roll, playing well, and full of confidence. Of course it's tougher with Bradford & London thrown into the mix as Championship rather than SL teams, but promotion is certainly not out of the question for existing Championship teams.

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