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l'angelo mysterioso

smoking at stadiums

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is it not hypocritical and counterproductive that some clubs still allow smoking at their stadiums?

 

many if not all clubs spend the rest of the week promoting healthy living, rugby league itself is supposed to be an advertisement for healthy lifestyles, yet still clubs allow smoking.

 

Cant people manage without a cancer stick for a couple of hours?

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Is rugby league in a position to take the moral high ground and potentially put off fans from coming to games for the sake of a smoking area away from the rest of the fans?

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Can people live without a pint for a few hours,alcohol is hardly part of a healthy lifestyle.Yet that is sold at grounds.

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As a smoker i've got to say that yes I struggle to go a couple of hours without a smoke especially if its a tight game but ultimately I can battle through. Cant really see how its hypocritical of clubs when they actually sell and promote alcohol, caffeine, fried food and other general food products where none of the nutritional values are available. I certainly can't remember the last time I saw a nice salad being available at a rugby ground.

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Can people live without a pint for a few hours,alcohol is hardly part of a healthy lifestyle.Yet that is sold at grounds.

alcohol abuse is forbidden at rugby league grounds.

It is possible to consume alcohol responsibly, it is not possible to consume tobacco responsibly

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As a smoker i've got to say that yes I struggle to go a couple of hours without a smoke especially if its a tight game but ultimately I can battle through. Cant really see how its hypocritical of clubs when they actually sell and promote alcohol, caffeine, fried food and other general food products where none of the nutritional values are available. I certainly can't remember the last time I saw a nice salad being available at a rugby ground.

I agree with you about junk food, and there is a thread in which this is discussed

see post above about alcohol.

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alcohol abuse is forbidden at rugby league grounds.

It is possible to consume alcohol responsibly, it is not possible to consume tobacco responsibly

Explain drunk people at games then. Alcohol consumption isn't part of  healthy lifestyle.Your original post wasn't about responsible consumption of any substance.You thread about alcohol wasn't about consumption but the lack of availability of a pint of Scruttocks Old Dirigable or some such real ale.

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Can people live without a pint for a few hours,alcohol is hardly part of a healthy lifestyle.Yet that is sold at grounds.

yes

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yes

Yet you extolled the virtues of the beer at SLS,it appears you can't.

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I agree with you about junk food, and there is a thread in which this is discussed

see post above about alcohol.

Fair enough mate. I don't for a second believe that smoking in the stands should be allowed but an outdoor area for smokers away from the majority of fans is surely ok. After all consumption of tobacco products isn't illegal and clubs don't exactly shy away from sponsorship from alcohol and in some cases fast food companies. 

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Explain drunk people at games then. Alcohol consumption isn't part of  healthy lifestyle.Your original post wasn't about responsible consumption of any substance.

 

Explain drunk people at games then. Alcohol consumption isn't part of  healthy lifestyle.Your original post wasn't about responsible consumption of any substance.You thread about alcohol wasn't about consumption but the lack of availability of a pint of Scruttocks Old Dirigable or some such real ale.

people: bar staff and stewards not doing their job properly. 

 

there is no responsible consumption of tobacco. My original post was about tobacco consumption i.e. smoking. Others have quite reasonably broadened the discussion.

 

I only drink alcohol at games if it is worth drinking, which is rarely. If alcohol either the kind I like or the kind I don't was unavailable it would be perfectly acceptable to me.

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Yet you extolled the virtues of the beer at SLS,it appears you can't.

yes and I enjoy it

I dont abuse it and if it wasn't available I would still enjoy my afternoon at the rugby.

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people: bar staff and stewards not doing their job properly. 

 

there is no responsible consumption of tobacco. My original post was about tobacco consumption i.e. smoking. Others have quite reasonably broadened the discussion.

 

I only drink alcohol at games if it is worth drinking, which is rarely. If alcohol either the kind I like or the kind I don't was unavailable it would be perfectly acceptable to me.

yes and I enjoy it

I dont abuse it and if it wasn't available I would still enjoy my afternoon at the rugby.

So you can enjoy a pint,yet you would deny people who enjoy smoking.If people want to smoke at grounds and they can,let them.Each to their own.They know the danger yet still smoke.Let them.Just as you enjoy a pint.This isn't about irresponsible use of any substance.Right, now time for a pint of Old Dirigable and a smoke of my pipe,toodle pip.

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So you can enjoy a pint,yet you would deny people who enjoy smoking.If people want to smoke at grounds and they can,let them.Each to their own.They know the danger yet still smoke.Let them.Just as you enjoy a pint.This isn't about irresponsible use of any substance.

Cant say i disagree. Again as a smoker I believe that as long as theres a designated space away from where the majority of fans are then theres no harm done apart from the folk inflicting it on themselves.

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Cant say i disagree. Again as a smoker I believe that as long as theres a designated space away from where the majority of fans are then theres no harm done apart from the folk inflicting it on themselves.

This.

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So you can enjoy a pint,yet you would deny people who enjoy smoking.If people want to smoke at grounds and they can,let them.Each to their own.They know the danger yet still smoke.Let them.Just as you enjoy a pint.This isn't about irresponsible use of any substance.Right, now time for a pint of Old Dirigable and a smoke of my pipe,toodle pip.

yes, because enjoying alcohol responsible can be part of a healthy lifestyle

smoking can't

 

I'm up for a glass or two of yellowtail chardonnay when the sun is over the yard arm.

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yes, because enjoying alcohol responsible can be part of a healthy lifestyle

smoking can't

 

I'm up for a glass or two of yellowtail chardonnay when the sun is over the yard arm.

So we should also ban junk food from grounds too,if you want to go the whole healthy lifestyle route.

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Cant say i disagree. Again as a smoker I believe that as long as theres a designated space away from where the majority of fans are then theres no harm done apart from the folk inflicting it on themselves.

Indeed.

Live and let live I say,or in the smokers case live and let die. :rolleyes:

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Assuming you are allowed to nip out at half time, then that's just 40-odd minutes between fags. If you can't manage that, then you have a willpower problem.

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alcohol abuse is forbidden at rugby league grounds.

It is possible to consume alcohol responsibly, it is not possible to consume tobacco responsibly

 

Are you sure about that? For example, what about if someone only treats themselves to a gasper or two at the rugby? how is that any less responsible than having a few pints?

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Like I say, we're not exactly in a position to take the moral high ground. We serve fast food, beer, sweets, etc. We don't offer "healthy" side dishes and the like. It would be hypocritical to say "we ban smoking because it's not healthy."

Smoking indoors or in areas of high public concentration, yeah sure. But designated smoking areas, not an issue. Second hand smoke isn't an issue if you're going there for one!

We should try to be more accommodating to people, regardless of their (legal) habits.

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;) Ah, bless you tax man, bless you all
You may take some but you never take it all
But if I give it all, I won't feel sad
As long as I got enough to buy a harry rag

Harry rag, harry rag
Do anything just to get a harry rag
And I curse myself for the life I've led
And roll myself a harry rag and put myself to bed :smoke: 

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So we should also ban junk food from grounds too,if you want to go the whole healthy lifestyle route.

Yes. I'm fed up with people forcing me to eat their junk food and drink their beer , just like smokers force me to I breast their carcinogenic exhilations .

To be honest id ban beer from the stands. Just about fed up of weak bladdered drinkers traipsing back and forth along my row to the bar and urinals when I'm trying to watch the game.

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Yes. I'm fed up with people forcing me to eat their junk food and drink their beer , just like smokers force me to I breast their carcinogenic exhilations .

To be honest id ban from the stands. Just about fed up of weak bladdered drinkers traipsing back and forth along my row to the bar and urinals when I'm trying to watch the game.

They obviously aren't drinking responsibly. ;)

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