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l'angelo mysterioso

smoking at stadiums

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I stopped smoking when a packet of Embassy went up to £8 and its done me no good at all as i spend all that i saved on beer, ive got liver and kidney problems now and recently had to have the front of the house taken down so that a crane could take me to town for a hospital appointment as i am now 40 stone so lets put the price of cigs down and save lives

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you miss the point entirely which is about the dichotomy of teaching healthy lifestyles in clubs' schools and community programmes and allowing smoking.

 

There are many anti pollution campaigns going on worldwide and locally.

 

But I would start by not allowing polluting industries and buses onto the terraces of rugby league grounds.. There are laws governing the working conditions of those who work in all forms of industry: suggest you google 'health and safety at work act'

There is no contradiction because while a club may work in schools and community programmes to further the healthy living ethos (and frankly I don't agree with them doing that; they're a rugby league club and so should just be furthering rugby league), they are doing that with children, not adults.  The rules of living in this world are not the same for adults as for children.  Children are the responsibility of certain adults.  Adults are responsible for themselves. 

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yes, because enjoying alcohol responsible can be part of a healthy lifestyle

smoking can't

 

I'm up for a glass or two of yellowtail chardonnay when the sun is over the yard arm.

 

 

As a matter of interest would you regard playing RL as healthy lifestyle with no long-term negative effects?

 

 

 

 

 

Just asking.

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you miss the point entirely which is about the dichotomy of teaching healthy lifestyles in clubs' schools and community programmes and allowing smoking.

 

There are many anti pollution campaigns going on worldwide and locally.

 

But I would start by not allowing polluting industries and buses onto the terraces of rugby league grounds.. There are laws governing the working conditions of those who work in all forms of industry: suggest you google 'health and safety at work act'

Knottla I'm sorry for sounding a smart ass. I'd just been called a fascist earlier in the thread and was up the chute a bit.

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As a matter of interest would you regard playing RL as healthy lifestyle with no long-term negative effects?

 

 

 

 

 

Just asking.

I've seen too many old Rugby League players hobbling about station lane to be that naive.

I think there is a problem with head injuries both accidental and deliberate

but the game is much cleaner and skilful now, and better disciplined, rehab and treatment of injuries which are bound to occur is far better.

My own son played both kinds of rugby to a decent amateur standard-Queens seconds in rugby and castle ford 1sts in Union. I wouldn't have allowed it or encouraged it when he was a youngster if I thought he was in danger. The training,skill,  discipline, teamwork and mental attitude required for playing Rugby League are certainly beneficial to children, that is why I coached it when I was a teacher.

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There is no contradiction because while a club may work in schools and community programmes to further the healthy living ethos (and frankly I don't agree with them doing that; they're a rugby league club and so should just be furthering rugby league), they are doing that with children, not adults.  The rules of living in this world are not the same for adults as for children.  Children are the responsibility of certain adults.  Adults are responsible for themselves. 

good call

 

but I would say that;

there are legal requirements both in statute and bye law regarding smoking and drinking in public including in sports stadiums.

 

Rugby League clubs derive considerable income from using their premises and staff for community projects with children, some even win awards, and many players have used the skills and interest they have picked up doing this work. I don't know if there's a connection but for instance Mickey Higham recently qualified as a teacher.

 

Rugby League clubs exists in communities and the connection between club and communities is inescapably strong, many people consider this to be a good thing and nowadays that relationship is used for mutual benefit. It didn't used to be.

 

There is a symbiosis in action clubs look good as well as all the other benefits shown above, when involved in this work, 

 

Children and young people are impressionable, and are likely to listen to someone they admire, schools, community schemes, children's wards in hospitals and so on have a valuable resource which they didn't have before.

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Can people live without a pint for a few hours,alcohol is hardly part of a healthy lifestyle.Yet that is sold at grounds.

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L'angelo no need to apologise, everybody can end up getting on a soapbox and end up missing what the thread  is about like I did must be my age.

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I choose to poison myself, it's not illegal. I enjoy a smoke and if it means I have to walk to a smoking area I'll walk to it. I also have ways of dealing with my nicotine craving when needed.

 

Smokers choose to poison themselves, as it not illegal, but the ant-smoking fascists won't be happy until smoking tobacco is made illegal...

 

Have you actually read the law with regards to smoking in public places... it makes quite interesting reading.

well that's your call

 

yes they do, although below a certain age and in clearly prescribed places and circumstances it is illegal. Again I suggest you check out the meaning of the word fascist.

 

the law regarding smoking in a public place sets out the the circumstances in which smoking can be allowed in a public place. This does not mean that such places have to permit smoking on their premises. If they choose for whatever reason not to then that is up to them. That also applies to the sale of alcohol, rugby league clubs are not obliged to sell alcohol on their premises, but most do and they are licensed accordingly the terms of that license are strict regarding alcohol abuse on such premises.

 

but this isn't what the thread is even about,

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Smoking is slowly being marginalised, and in true RL fashion the die hards are clinging onto the past!

Bring back smoking in bars, hospitals workplaces, and bring back P&R!

Alcohol will be the next target for future govenments!

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Theres a rumour going round th

So they got you to huh?

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Theres a rumour going round that the government are about to clamp down on MPs using rent boys and claiming the money back on expenses

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Theres a rumour going round that the government are about to clamp down on MPs using rent boys and claiming the money back on expenses

So; it was only a flesh wound

We'll get you cleaned up in no time

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