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Tom Coates

Rams release Grayston

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I am looking forward to seeing the lad play if he signs for Batley. Could it be as simple as trimming the fat? You did sign an awful lot of players?

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:-) I know jordan well really well I know the kid did not want to leave Dewsbury he never missed training and having seen him train he trains as hard as anyone do that and turn up and be told your not selected week after week surely gives the impression your not wanted alright glens the coach and having been a coach myself I've tried to understand why he's been left out after the fev game I told jordan he might get dropped but for the life of me I couldn't understand consistently being left out and playing loanees particularly one who's signed up for London next year don't think that's in dewsburys interest going back to jordan I think he started in four games three of those he got mom two at the club and one in league weekly do you agree that at least showed potential now not trying to disrespect pricey potential he hasn't got what you see with Karl is what you get sometimes it works sometimes its way off Jordan's a part time player if he dosent play he dosent get played, and when you feel your being left out of the team unfairly you've got to do something hope all you Dewsbury fans understand that as far as I know and I'm as close to him as you can get there's no underlying reason for him to have been left out for such a long period

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I think the jury was still out on Grayston. Had a couple of reasonable games for th club but nowt special. I reckon a full back is already in the bag for next season and he reckons big KP will do a job in the interim.

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:-) I know jordan well really well I know the kid did not want to leave Dewsbury he never missed training and having seen him train he trains as hard as anyone do that and turn up and be told your not selected week after week surely gives the impression your not wanted alright glens the coach and having been a coach myself I've tried to understand why he's been left out after the fev game I told jordan he might get dropped but for the life of me I couldn't understand consistently being left out and playing loanees particularly one who's signed up for London next year don't think that's in dewsburys interest going back to jordan I think he started in four games three of those he got mom two at the club and one in league weekly do you agree that at least showed potential now not trying to disrespect pricey potential he hasn't got what you see with Karl is what you get sometimes it works sometimes its way off Jordan's a part time player if he dosent play he dosent get played, and when you feel your being left out of the team unfairly you've got to do something hope all you Dewsbury fans understand that as far as I know and I'm as close to him as you can get there's no underlying reason for him to have been left out for such a long period

Well wish the lad all the best from the fans as its not us that's shoved him out

And maybe one day when Billy smarts circus rolls out of town he can come back and show us all what he had to offer

From the fans good luck lad

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Quite true!

But the usually make better coaches than supporters who have never played rugby in their life.

 

 

Cheap and lazy comment.

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Well wish the lad all the best from the fans as its not us that's shoved him out

And maybe one day when Billy smarts circus rolls out of town he can come back and show us all what he had to offer

From the fans good luck lad

'Billy smarts circus?'

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'Billy smarts circus?'

Bit before your time Eddie

Ringmaster and his clowns ;)

Google it ;)

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Bit before your time Eddie

Ringmaster and his clowns ;)

Google it ;)

I get it now

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Cheap and lazy comment.

 

Couldn't agree more. Don't believe the myth that 40+ years of watching our game amounts to nothing!

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Usual comments from usual suspects. Grayston has potential, but was not outstanding. The Championship is a ruthless competition. This is not a league for developing young players. His defensive positioning looked a bit suspect and the simple fact is there are better players. I hope he finds another club and let's see how well he does.

Personally I doubt Fev, Halifax, Leigh, etc.. will be lining up to sign him. But no doubt the moaners and conspiracy theorists will be harping on about this for weeks to come.

Oh and by the way, Darrne Rogers left the club on good terms.

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We're supposed to be building for the future, there wouldn't be any comments if players would have had a fair crack of the whip and fallen short, that's all that's been asked... Not everybody is gonna become the next big thing.

Want some pride in wearing the shirt

And it's all about the size of the heart

Not the size of the pay packet

And that's batley problem at the moment

Always had lads that played for Batley

And that gave them a edge.. Pride to play for the club.

And that's missing this season

and I'm sure Batley fans would agree.

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Usual comments from usual suspects. Grayston has potential, but was not outstanding. The Championship is a ruthless competition. This is not a league for developing young players. His defensive positioning looked a bit suspect and the simple fact is there are better players. I hope he finds another club and let's see how well he does.

Personally I doubt Fev, Halifax, Leigh, etc.. will be lining up to sign him. But no doubt the moaners and conspiracy theorists will be harping on about this for weeks to come.

Oh and by the way, Darrne Rogers left the club on good terms.

Think what you want but Rogers didnt leave the club on good terms

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Also if this league is not a place for developing young players why the heck did we sign Beckett, Farrell, Grayston, Robinson and Wright, all of which are young players!

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I read this thread with a little dismay. Not all for the news about the release of a young player, but also for the reactions it has engendered.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but we are now 6 points above the "5th from bottom" relegation place. That would mean all of the 5 teams we are competing with to avoid that last spot will have to finish the season with a better last six or so games record than us.  Some of them play each other as well. Some of them also play Leigh, Featherstone, Doncaster and, like us, Halifax.  Whilst we cannot be complacent, we should also not be panicking.  Alright, Sheffield have a game in hand but we also have a superior points difference over the others.

 

In the not too distant the past we avoided relegation only because others fell into financial difficulty and fell through the trap door as a result instead.  So I for one have enjoyed, on balance, a much improved season so far.

 

Back on topic about Grayston, I have no factual information, and like everyone else must resort to conjecture.  I was disappointed to hear of his departure like a lot of people, but having thought about it a bit I came up with the following. 

 

We do not currently run a reserve grade, so whatever the future plans may be to consider introducing one, current young players only get game time with the first team (unless loaned out).  This means we have to be fair to the young lads in the squad that the Coach does not think will feature the rest of the season.  GM obviously thinks he can cover the fullback position with what we have, whether we agree or not.

 

Now a load of completely unfounded "whatifs".

 

Before the start of this season I thought I read we had a "significant sponsor" that was on board but had to withdraw because of the RFL's/Superleague's procrastination over the future structures and formats for the leagues.

 

Whatif that sponsor is still interested, now the league structure is confirmed?

Whatif, given the new structure, the ambitions of the club have been elevated even if by a modest amount?

Whatif the young players we (as fans) wanted to see assimilated into the team might not now be at the right stage of their development to contribute to a new model and quite rightly might be better off to try somewhere else?

Whatif we are still not at a stage we could run a resrve grade or if we did they could not find any opposition to play?

 

Rightly or wrongly, for this level of RL the pro and semi-pro landscape is now going to change quite rapidly, clubs will need to position themselves to take advantage (and some might fall trying to do so, hopefully not ours). 

 

Whilst I agree that ideally we should keeping young players in the club, developing them and giving them a passion for "playing for the shirt", I wonder if that might be seen as a thing for the future and not a current priority? Who knows?

 

Like I said, no facts, pure conjecture, but whatif?

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Well I spoke to Jordan yesterday and he was gutted to leave the club. We keep a bulls player yet release him I don't understand. I've not been this p***ed off since Eddie Rombo left Dewsbury to go to Featherstone!

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Eddie

 

I don't understand either.  I wasn't trying to justify anything. 

 

I was just pointing out that there may be all sorts of stuff going on we have no sight of and it could be that unfortunately Jordan is an unwitting casualty of that.

 

Equally, Coolie could be right and GM is the re-incarnation of Charlie Cairoli (young persons can google this reference, Coolie should remember I think?).

 

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@Madmorros: Love how u try and do the right thing for someone and uninformed people want to judge u and run u out of town. Not all is what it seems!!

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Why do some fans assume that a departure must mean there's been a fall-out?

 

...and what "truth"?  :tongue: 

 

Glenn's decided that Jordan and Josh are not part of his plans and has released them so they can play rugby again and put themselves in the shop window.

 

I know some of you love a good scandal though...

 

Oh and Darren left on good terms. Just another example of fans assuming there'd been some massive spat where there wasn't one.

You are blinded by loyalty Tom. I am old enough to know better. Grayson had too much potential and we are too weak at full back for this to be anything other than the usual face fitting...shocked and appalled by this decision and I, like others will be reconsidering my squad builder contribution...GM is indeed turning into WJ, b

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:-) I know jordan well really well I know the kid did not want to leave Dewsbury he never missed training and having seen him train he trains as hard as anyone do that and turn up and be told your not selected week after week surely gives the impression your not wanted alright glens the coach and having been a coach myself I've tried to understand why he's been left out after the fev game I told jordan he might get dropped but for the life of me I couldn't understand consistently being left out and playing loanees particularly one who's signed up for London next year don't think that's in dewsburys interest going back to jordan I think he started in four games three of those he got mom two at the club and one in league weekly do you agree that at least showed potential now not trying to disrespect pricey potential he hasn't got what you see with Karl is what you get sometimes it works sometimes its way off Jordan's a part time player if he dosent play he dosent get played, and when you feel your being left out of the team unfairly you've got to do something hope all you Dewsbury fans understand that as far as I know and I'm as close to him as you can get there's no underlying reason for him to have been left out for such a long period

Great post. Pass on my wishes. He has been shat on from a great height and will come back to haunt us....

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Usual comments from usual suspects. Grayston has potential, but was not outstanding. The Championship is a ruthless competition. This is not a league for developing young players. His defensive positioning looked a bit suspect and the simple fact is there are better players. I hope he finds another club and let's see how well he does.

Personally I doubt Fev, Halifax, Leigh, etc.. will be lining up to sign him. But no doubt the moaners and conspiracy theorists will be harping on about this for weeks to come.

Oh and by the way, Darrne Rogers left the club on good terms.

 

 

 

Thanks for that WR - I always had the ambition to become one of the "usual suspects". I'll be Keyser Soze.

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Usual comments from usual suspects. Grayston has potential, but was not outstanding. The Championship is a ruthless competition. This is not a league for developing young players. His defensive positioning looked a bit suspect and the simple fact is there are better players. I hope he finds another club and let's see how well he does.

Personally I doubt Fev, Halifax, Leigh, etc.. will be lining up to sign him. But no doubt the moaners and conspiracy theorists will be harping on about this for weeks to come.

Oh and by the way, Darrne Rogers left the club on good terms.

WR, you seem to be someone who has an insider's knowledge about the club's affairs and also one who cannot abide supporters who criticise the club (for whatever reason).

If this is not a league to develop young players, then why did GM sign the likes of Grayston in the first place? If this is not a league to develop young players, why are we doing so with Wood for Bradford's benefit. I am afraid that, from what I have seen of him, he has less potential than Grayston.

As you are so knowledgeable about the departure of Trigger, do tell us the actual reason he departed the club, o as you put it, "on good terms".

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There seems to be a bit of name calling and falling out on here which is disappointing but of course everybody has the right to there own opinions and should not be ridiculed for expressing them . The first i heard about jordan leaving was on this thread this morning and i must admit i was a bit suprised but the more i have thought about it the more i think i understand the decision .Presuming we stay up this season then next year is going to be about as tough as it can get for us and if we wish to improve then we must have the best players on the books that finances will allow and fringe players next season might be better than fringe players this year . I was of the opinion myself that jordan did not let anybody down with his effort or commitment but i am not sure that he has the ability to play at the level that we will have to next season as i think better options may be available ( and i do not know anything by the way ) . so having thought about it now i can understand glenns decision and i respect it and wish jordan well at his new club and i hope that he does indeed improve for the lads sake .  Coolie dos`nt half make me smile at times as he makes a determined point about face fitting and " favourites " but has the most obvious needle for glenn morrison for some reason .  At the end of the day the coach stands or fails by the decisions that he makes and overall i am personaly happy  with his decisions so far . 

 Sorry about the grammar here but im in a rush . kb .

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No one will ever know the truth as to why Jordan has left GM doesn't even know that himself.Jordan had some outstanding games for dewsbury in the few games he actually got at fullback.but he will be the first to admit that there is still better to come, Jordan came to Dewsbury without a pre-season behind him and has worked tirelessly on his fitness and goal kicking. he never missed a training session as some people have rightly pointed out and always has given his all, i also know that GM made plenty of broken promises. the treatement of Tonksy has been shocking and farrell too. too drop rob spicer for 2 week and then palce him on the bench and play the clubs best centre out of position in the back row? all baffles me never mind karl pryce at full back, nothing against the guy but not half as good as jordan. the fev game was the kiiller for jordan but i had him off work that week with food poisoning and GM knew about that, jordan was gutted that his playing ability was seriously hindred that day and was desperate for another chance which never materialised at dewsbury. it was the same story with lilycrop earlier this year. if your building for the future surely you keep your best young players. and believe me others will follow shortly who's face simply does not fit. Jordan thanks the supporters of dewsbury and is grateful to the club for the opportunity since returning from OZ. hopefully jon kear will help him progress although going to be tough battling for position against greenwood if you can't compete against louis and pryce jordy lad :)

 

i have enjoyed following dewsbury in the short period & have met some passionate fans.

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Well that's us done a few of us have decided we won,t be purchasing season tickets next season.

To let Tonksy and Grayston go now is ridiculous

I personally spoke to someone who knows Tonks and that lad asked months ago to be let go so he could

Join another club and play regular rugby he was approached by other championship clubs

But GM wouldnt allow it he,s been messed about all season until yesterday when they ageed to let him go but only to York not to a championship club - to put these restrictions on a young promising player is

Appalling- young players up and coming held back what are we doing Dewsbury?

People comment on the Warren Jowitt era but if he would have had the finances and backing that GM has had

Makes me wonder what could have been achieved

Seems to me GM has the gift of the gab and people are falling for it

Not impressed!

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