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To be honest, I'd much rather have speculated a little this season - especially after last seasons success. If we had, we might not be facing the abyss of home crowds of 250 next season and games on park pitches in the South of England. In contrast, the clubs which chose to chance their arm a little will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of nearly £200'000 worth of prize money and vastly increased gate receipts in 2015. It appears that stubbornly adhering to the same way of operating may ultimately cost us dear. However, I guess we can take comfort in retaining the moral high ground when we're outshouting a man and his dog down at Gloucester.

 

 

If the worst does happen, you will find there are some decent grounds darn sarf, better than some of our northern counterparts ie oldham , and can see some of the clubs that have overspent going into admin in next 6 months especially if they don't finish in top 4 where the main prize money is...........

Gloucester do get more that 1 man and his dog but not many more,but decent viewing facilities

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I think many genuine supporters now have similar thoughts Terminator. We have been very prudent in recent seasons, and gained relatively major success at the Mount, operating on strict budgetary principles.

Unfortunately for our Club, the Championship game has evolved into a 'bottom level Super League', with all the financial demands that brings.

Our financial and managerial structure has not evolved and developed at the same pace, and signs of this were obvious when our first team squad fell apart during the last close season. If we survive this season without relegation ( which I hope & pray we do) we should take a long hard look at how the club is run and structured to cope with the ever increasing competitive demands of Championship rugby league, to at least have a chance of gaining the ever increasing financial rewards that come with that.

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I think the words Nail and Head come to mind there, Bulldog Days.  We have been the victims of our own success, gaining good results and plaudits while operating on a small budget with strict control.  Unfortunately, as you say, other clubs have moved on with their structures whilst ours have remained the same and we have been left behind.

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To be honest, I'd much rather have speculated a little this season - especially after last seasons success. If we had, we might not be facing the abyss of home crowds of 250 next season and games on park pitches in the South of England. In contrast, the clubs which chose to chance their arm a little will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of nearly £200'000 worth of prize money and vastly increased gate receipts in 2015. It appears that stubbornly adhering to the same way of operating may ultimately cost us dear. However, I guess we can take comfort in retaining the moral high ground when we're outshouting a man and his dog down at Gloucester.

 

I agree with your sentiments Terminator but would ask just how can a club without a strong financial backer speculate in this way? Where does the cash actually come from?

 

Businesses nowadays experience ther  banks having very limited patience and tolerance for debt, so someone would have to pay those bills in the interim between speculation and reward. It isn't easy is it?

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hope you guys do stay up! just one thing though, if you do go down it may not all be bad news. The year we went down we always had good crowds winning every week. Yeah under jowitt we had over 900 season ticket holders due to cheap season tickets but even under Andy Kelly we got around the 800 mark in home fans. The last few years we've had usualy around 700 home fans so you'd imagine winning does make a difference to gates? Anyway goodluck batley!

 

This is true Chris but we didn't exactly break even that season did we? Without Mark Sawyer picking up the tab we would have been in dire straits.

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I think you'd be very supprised just how much some players in our division are on! And a lot of clubs will have spent well over their budgets this year offering silly money. Now I don't know this, but what would you reckon the average contract is for the champ?

 I would say about 8K but top earners are commanding 30K+, there are at least a couple of players in the league closer to 50K but the average is brought down quite a bit by a lot of the squad players being on less than 5K.

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Directors loan. Perhaps a marque signing something to get the terrraces excited. Its always a gamble bringing in the young unknown and disgruntled players from other clubs.

What I would do now for a return of maun lythsey lindsay george preece and tiger. In short someone with passion and commitment

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I would say about 8K but top earners are commanding 30K+, there are at least a couple of players in the league closer to 50K but the average is brought down quite a bit by a lot of the squad players being on less than 5K.

Who do you think are on close to £50k, nobody at Leigh is on anywhere close to that and we have one of the higher spends with Fax and Fev

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Barlow will be high up and I would imagine Brierley will be on good money. I was also surprised when I heard what Leigh had paid to get Alex Brown.

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Directors loan. Perhaps a marque signing something to get the terrraces excited. Its always a gamble bringing in the young unknown and disgruntled players from other clubs.

What I would do now for a return of maun lythsey lindsay george preece and tiger. In short someone with passion and commitment

You mention Directors loan, thats fine as long as they have got the money to do that and also be prepared to be able to lose that amount if it all went #### up, we need a benefactor,sugar daddy but we know that isn't going to happen , then if you get one like faisal who then bogs off and throws his toys out of the pram cos he can't have his own way and then the club is in the

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Got to agree with terminator on this one if we can't compete for players with clubs of our stature

then we are admitting defeat and deserve to go down.It looks like our little club syndrome and

punching above our weight has finally caught up with us.We should have had some cover in at

least two or three key positions but now finishing season as we started it with one half back it's

just not good enough and shows our lack of ambition.

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Our squad to start the season was all wrong it does sound like a broken record i know.  six players in our squad were not registered to the bulldogs, two were almost certainly going to get suspended. The backline was wafer thin. Black was injured we had only one half back. We have tried to patch and make up all season. Every time we have got a player on loan and he has done well another club has come in and taken him. The inevitable has happened and we are staring relegation in the face. Like other supporters i feel we could have, if you like pushed the boat out a little more we have gone for players IMO to fill shirts. Have heard we could be relegated with funds in BISSA to me that dousn,t  feel right. The directors and coaching staff have done the club proud for a good few seasons now but in this very important season maybe we have not aimed high enough. It all feels very negative but if the points fiasco goes against us tommorrow and we lose on Sunday our stay in the championship is hanging by a thread. Fingers crossed things go our way and we somehow survive. I just hope lessons are learned . 

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The genuine supporters & die hards are all making similar noises on this thread. We can all see what is needed to keep the momentum & recent success of the Club going.

It's not all about sugar daddies & investors with self seeking intentions. At the expense of repeating myself, Batley Bulldogs have built a unique culture and brand at the Mount, through Kevin and a Board of Directors who live and breath the Club. This brand can be marketed to a wider market, with the support of professional marketeers. Surely it is time to invest in some professional input, independent to the daily running of the club, who would be given a brief from the Board to attract specific numbers from specific target areas both in and outside the district. I know supporters who have been attracted by our unique family club from Bradford Bulls and other Super League clubs to become full time supporters of Batley Bulldogs. It is now time speculate to accumulate, and build on what we have before it is lost, and let the wider public know what we can offer.

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I fear that, if there is a points reduction re Sheffield and we come back from the Lakes with our tails between our legs, then the time to speculate will have been lost.  As you rightly say you should build on a solid base when you are at, or near, the top of the tree.  When you are hanging on by your fingertips is generally too late.

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Agree totally with Fredm the time to speculate has gone and we have missed the boat. Deadline day was a fiasco and we probably will pay for it with relegation. Still no news on the RL descition. Anyone else feeling mushroom like ?.

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Think it's a case of waiting for the RFL to announce something. Like a few others, I've heard that something will be announced today.

 

Interestingly, they never actually put out a statement saying any clubs were under investigation. The only information the fans have had has been from journalists who've had their speculation confirmed by an RFL spokesman.

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Barlow will be high up and I would imagine Brierley will be on good money. I was also surprised when I heard what Leigh had paid to get Alex Brown.

So what are these figures you heard?

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