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BBC obsession with try scorers & MOTM

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I don't want to take away from what was an enjoyable Cup Final, nor away from Ryan Hall's efforts, BUT...... MOTM? really?

I've noticed that whenever BBC cover our game they seem to just give MOTM to the player that scores the most tries. No consideration to the playmakers who create the tries or the forwards who lay the platform. It seems to smack of a lack of knowledge about our game and applying a football mindset to RL.

It's a shame as it tarnishes the prestige of the Lance Todd trophy.

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I thought it was awarded by the Rugby League Writers Association, not the broadcaster.

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I thought it was awarded by the Rugby League Writers Association, not the broadcaster.

It is, and it was the right decision. Hall murdered his opposite winger and centre, and scored two tries he had no right to score. Nothing to see here.

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I thought it was awarded by the Rugby League Writers Association, not the broadcaster.

Correct

I've had the privilege of being allowed to vote in the past.

Hall As ever did far more than score tries and I would have voted for him today

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Really? Not one of the halves for creating the tries? Not one of the forwards for dominating their opposition up the middle?

If these are the decisions by the general RL public, then it's no wonder England hasn't beaten the Aussies in over 40 years. A general lack of understanding of the game seems to be prevalent.

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Really? Not one of the halves for creating the tries? Not one of the forwards for dominating their opposition up the middle?

If these are the decisions by the general RL public, then it's no wonder England hasn't beaten the Aussies in over 40 years. A general lack of understanding of the game seems to be prevalent.

But the halves didnt create the tries! The forwards dominated, but on a collective basis, not individual. The outstanding player was Hall, and Cas had no equivalent to him and couldnt stop him.

I'll ignore the second part of your post which gives you away as a thick Aussie.

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Lets be honest, he just had to flop over the line for both of his tries, absolutely nothing to do on either of them. ;)

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Hall was outstanding.

The amount of metres he made off ball returns and dominating the collision off taking the ball up was countless.

Watch the game. The reason Leeds started so many sets on the front foot was because of him. That sort of work goes unnoticed every game. Added to the fact that probably only 3 - 4 players have the ability to score the tries he did in world RL he was a definite candidate for MOM.

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I thought it was awarded by the Rugby League Writers Association, not the broadcaster.

Don't you DARE bring facts into this! ;) 

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Hall was outstanding.

The amount of metres he made off ball returns and dominating the collision off taking the ball up was countless.

Watch the game. The reason Leeds started so many sets on the front foot was because of him. That sort of work goes unnoticed every game. Added to the fact that probably only 3 - 4 players have the ability to score the tries he did in world RL he was a definite candidate for MOM.

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Really? Not one of the halves for creating the tries? Not one of the forwards for dominating their opposition up the middle?

If these are the decisions by the general RL public, then it's no wonder England hasn't beaten the Aussies in over 40 years. A general lack of understanding of the game seems to be prevalent.

The voting was very close between Hall (14) and Danny M (12).  Sinfield only got 1 vote and I think Burrow got 4.

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Really? Not one of the halves for creating the tries? Not one of the forwards for dominating their opposition up the middle?

If these are the decisions by the general RL public, then it's no wonder England hasn't beaten the Aussies in over 40 years. A general lack of understanding of the game seems to be prevalent.

They are not the decisions of the general rl public see above. People arrive at their decisions of man of the match for all sorts of reasons

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Ultimately Hall was the difference between the two teams. He scored the two tries which won the game, tries which he really had no right to score.

The forwards did well, but the halves didnt capitalise on this at all. Had they put Hall over with clear runs, fair enough, but ultimately, Leeds made few breaks, their halves did not architect this win, the back 3, solid forwards and then Halls brilliance did.

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The voting was very close between Hall (14) and Danny M (12).  Sinfield only got 1 vote and I think Burrow got 4.

Did Sinfield have a relative on the panel?

 

Would have voted for Maguire myself but no problems with Hall winning it.

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The game wasn't won by Leeds halves or forwards. It was won by Hall, Hardlaker and Briscoe. They made massive meters from Cas's kicking that put Leeds on the front foot all match. Hall was the best of them.

His trys were the difference.

He deservedly won the Lance Todd Trophy.

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very well deserved from hall. easily the most complete winger in modern RL in either hemisphere.

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Thought McGuire deserved it to be honest. Lance Todd trophy voting always used to be a bit skewed due to the presence of non-rugby league journo's having their day out at Wembley reporting on a game they would never normally report on, and the obvious thing was to vote for the player that scored the most tries.

Hall played well, but still think McGuire should have got it.

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robbie burrow had a superb game and was motm for me

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Burrow, Hall, McGuire - any of those three would have got no complaints from me.

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Burrow, Hall, McGuire - any of those three would have got no complaints from me.

Exactly right

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Managed to watch the first half before the wife dragged me shopping. After Hall's first try I was thinking why a forward was hanging out on the wing. Loved the way he sat down his opposite number and barged his way to the line.

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My word, just when you think youve seen every angle used by an Aussie to disparage English RL. Well done you fool

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It could have gone to two or three players but Hall was outstanding, so fair enough for me.

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very well deserved from hall. easily the most complete winger in modern RL in either hemisphere.

A year or two back I would have said he was big, strong and quick but not much of a rugby player. He's got the lot now though. Seems to have gone up another level this season.

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very well deserved from hall. easily the most complete winger in modern RL in either hemisphere.

Hall is playing often against weaker opposition and can look good against poor defense.

No offense to Castleford but that team is hardly a benchmark for the best in the game is it?

 

He is a solid player no doubt about that, best in the game......

He can run hard and beat a man, so can Vatuvei, is he the best Winger in the NRL? not by a long shot.

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