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I'm following ckn's advice here and avoiding "head talk" 

 

This.

 

However, from a general point of view, I would like to echo the comments in the deleted thread that referred to rigourous testing procedures that are finding cheats out. Long may that continue and 'athletes' who want to take shortcuts can choose another sport.

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Its a sad reflection of our society at the moment - the police should be patroilling gyms as people selling steroids and all manner of other performance enhancing drugs in then is more rife than the shady drug dealers knocking out the happy pills and powders in the pubs and clubs - and that is a major problem in itself. 

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Society is a mess BTJ, not helped by the socialising habits and the need to look pumped of the young. Close all clubs at the latest 3am and pubs at 1am.

OMG, Broken Britain.

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Didn't all clubs used to close at 3am and we had more anti-social behaviour than currently with staggered closing times? Just saying like.

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Its the drug culture in towns Tex I was relating to, how do you put a days work in on a Friday and come out of a club at 6am, sleep all day Saturday and repeat. In my town as the older generation are going home the younger ones are coming out, at their age my local encompassed all ages with great banter.

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In some ways what was reported around the Lockwood case may be of greater long term interest or concern. For any that didn't see it, James Lockwood was subject to an out of competition test in Nov '14 and the results came back clean. A couple of months later his was among a number that UKAD submitted for a re-test apparently using new techniques and it was this that produced the positive result.

 

It was included in a couple of the print stories but not many of the online versions carried that bit.

 

http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/sport/national/12902362.display/

 

 

A development in new technology is believed to be behind the discovery of pralmorelin in Lockwood's body.

UKAD say the initial sample, which was submitted for analysis to the Drug Control Centre at King's College London on December 8, failed to detect a prohibited substance but on January 27 they instructed the laboratory to look for growth hormone releasing factors and on February 26 pralmorelin was discovered.

 

 

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Looks like posts have been deleted.

 

Don't name players or teams! 

 

I'm sure John and CKN are happy for people to talk about proven cases and convictions or the subject in general.

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Looks like posts have been deleted.

 

Don't name players or teams! 

 

I'm sure John and CKN are happy for people to talk about proven cases and convictions or the subject in general.

Yep.  Sorry, I was in too much of a hurry earlier on and did the deletions as I was trying to get out the door.

 

As far as this subject goes, if you name any player, team, individual or organisation without proof that's been tested successfully in court then you get banned.  Simple as that.

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Yep.  Sorry, I was in too much of a hurry earlier on and did the deletions as I was trying to get out the door.

 

As far as this subject goes, if you name any player, team, individual or organisation without proof that's been tested successfully in court then you get banned.  Simple as that.

 

Thanks for that.  I think its an interesting subject and one that needs discussing (from an RL and wider perspective).

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If UKAD have got a new test that can detect things previously missed, then I wouldn't be surprised if a few people are worried.

If I were running the tests, I'd launch a press release stating that we'd developed a test that can detect ALL foreign substances in the body that have been taken in the last year and that we're going to be re-testing everyone in the sport within one month.  Then schedule the tests and see how many people retire early through a sudden or chronic injury that's no longer treatable on doctor's advice.

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If I were running the tests, I'd launch a press release stating that we'd developed a test that can detect ALL foreign substances in the body that have been taken in the last year and that we're going to be re-testing everyone in the sport within one month.  Then schedule the tests and see how many people retire early through a sudden or chronic injury that's no longer treatable on doctor's advice.

 

I think catching a few is the only way people will stop it.

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Why does it always seem to be lower level players that get caught?

 

Less money to get the good stuff?  Less tests, so thinking you can get away with it. 

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