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£50,000 a year for a basic standard of living with 3 kids.  I never knew I lived in poverty until now.

 

 

Maybe that shows how, in this country, we've been conned, bullied and lied to by tory and labour gov'ts, both of who have said that we can only achieve prosperity by accepting less money.

 

Caveat: I'm doing ok I'm not jealous of anyone, this is not "the politics of envy"


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Indeed.

Also, is there actually any other type of TV you can buy? They are all flatscreen.

Some of the fancy new ones are curved.


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That depends on whether you buy a new TV or not.

 

And I did suggest other things, not only 'flatscreen TVs': a car, meat on the table every night, etc.  In other words, what is a 'minimum standard of living'? 

 

Since nobody can actually answer that I guess I have my answer!

 

Do you suggest people buy old cathode TVs and increase their electricity usage instead. Once again your grasp of the benefits of using the latest technology whooshes past you.


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Do you suggest people buy old cathode TVs and increase their electricity usage instead. Once again your grasp of the benefits of using the latest technology whooshes past you.

Yeah.  That'll be the reasoning behind my comment.

 

Clearly you have never been poor.  Had you been poor, you would have bought second hand stuff.  Second hand TVs at the moment tend not to be flat screen TVs.  I know because I have one.  A second hand TV I mean.  Because I have been poor. 

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Yeah. That'll be the reasoning behind my comment.

Clearly you have never been poor. Had you been poor, you would have bought second hand stuff. Second hand TVs at the moment tend not to be flat screen TVs. I know because I have one. A second hand TV I mean. Because I have been poor.

Why were you poor?

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Why were you poor?

She didn't work hard enough


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Why were you poor?

 

I should think because she was  brought up under a Labour govt and living in a Labour council area.


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I should think because she was  brought up under a Labour govt and living in a Labour council area.

 

Yeh, that'll be it, the Labour council's fault, just the same as the people who live here: £12.5m mega mansion valued as Merseyside's most expensive home :rolleyes:


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Of course the only reason poor people are poor is because they don't work hard enough. How do I know? Jeremy Hunt told me: Tax credit cuts will encourage people to work as hard as the Chinese, says Jeremy Hunt

 

Great stuff from someone who I doubt has never done a hard days work in his entire life. 

 

Speaking from personal experience the hardest work I have ever done in my life has always been the lowest paid. I've worked in the building trade, factorises and in pubs. All consent hard graft and in the case of building sites and factories dangerous and dirty work for which I sometimes worked 16 hour shifts. Grafting like that ought to have made me a millionaire according to Mr Hunt It did't, it made me knackered, and I'm still not sure what damage breathing chemical dust all day in the factory has done to me.

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"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Wigan, St Helens, Guildford, Wokingham. see the pattern? 

 

Places you left one of your marbles?


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Michael Meacher, MP for Oldham West, has died.  A by-election in a seat where Ukip came second could be interesting ...


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Michael Meacher, MP for Oldham West, has died.  A by-election in a seat where Ukip came second could be interesting ...

 

With a 15k majority? Shouldn't be a problem.


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Michael Meacher, MP for Oldham West, has died.  A by-election in a seat where Ukip came second could be interesting ...

 

UKIP couldn't run a tap at the moment, let alone a by-election campaign.

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UKIP couldn't run a tap at the moment, let alone a by-election campaign.

 

But these are the seats that we were told would represent the mighty surge to Ukip becoming a real boy proper electoral force.


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Interesting PMQs today, Cameron to me looks like he's trying to hard, don't think he's adapted well at all to this new way of doing things!

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Jezza's new Director of Thought Control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seumas_Milne

 

It seem he might be a controversial appointment:

So Jeremy Corbyn, what made you appoint Seumas Milne, an apologist for murderous dictators?

 

No, not the Mail or telegraph who are both pssing themselves laughing, but the Independent

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/so-jeremy-corbyn-what-made-you-appoint-seumas-milne-an-apologist-for-murderous-dictators-a6702391.html

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Jezza's new Director of Thought Control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seumas_Milne

 

It seem she might be a controversial appointment:

So Jeremy Corbyn, what made you appoint Seumas Milne, an apologist for murderous dictators?

 

No, not the Mail or telegraph who are both pssing themselves laughing, but the Independent

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/so-jeremy-corbyn-what-made-you-appoint-seumas-milne-an-apologist-for-murderous-dictators-a6702391.html

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Seumas Milne is one of the worst human beings on the planet.


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Seumas Milne is one of the worst human beings on the planet.

Sometimes I get the impression that Corbyn really is trying his hardest not to be elected as Prime Minister.  Cameron and Osborne are doing the same with Cameron all bar booking the removals van for 2019.  Do they know something is happening in 2020 that we don't?


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Sometimes I get the impression that Corbyn really is trying his hardest not to be elected as Prime Minister.  Cameron and Osborne are doing the same with Cameron all bar booking the removals van for 2019.  Do they know something is happening in 2020 that we don't?

 

The comments under that article - I didn't note who wrote it until the comments incidentally but I basically agree with the whole thrust of the article - are worse than when someone dares print something not positive about Farage and his kipper sycophants troll in.  Given the Indy hardly ever runs to even a dozen comments it really is quite terrifying.


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