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37 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

May-August, between the union season 

Is that because there are too many union players? Not much of a season that. Would have thought the first division would be able to cope with at least an March/April-Sept/Oct season 

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23 minutes ago, DoubleD said:

Is that because there are too many union players? Not much of a season that. Would have thought the first division would be able to cope with at least an March/April-Sept/Oct season 

Three to four months is all the Rugby League Conference ever aspired to apart from in its national division. Personally I think we'd have been better off going for full seasons even if it meant half as many clubs outside the heartlands

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1 hour ago, DoubleD said:

Is that because there are too many union players? Not much of a season that. Would have thought the first division would be able to cope with at least an March/April-Sept/Oct season 

It's impossible.  Unless you're going to provide a convenient season that is a decent alternative to Union, most people will play Union and dabble in League.  Even guys who prefer League, will often get dragged into union because it becomes "the wife" and it's where their sporting bread is buttered.

Unless you can provide an eight month season in the sort of arrangement which makes you say "I'll pie off Union because I want to play League", nothing will change.  I'm not saying it has to be September to April, though I'm not sure March to October is the answer either.  However, without an eight-month season, which will lead to a smaller but more loyal playing base, we're simply urinating in the wind. 

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Isn't there a role for the shorter season in enabling people and clubs to play RL?  The problem is that there then isn't a longer season structure above it for those who want to be exclusively (or mainly) RL - or whose body type/skills are better suited to RL than RU.  But to get that you'd need some sort of Southern Conference... (ah well)

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2 hours ago, Norfolk said:

Isn't there a role for the shorter season in enabling people and clubs to play RL?  The problem is that there then isn't a longer season structure above it for those who want to be exclusively (or mainly) RL - or whose body type/skills are better suited to RL than RU.  But to get that you'd need some sort of Southern Conference... (ah well)

I'd have hoped the West of England 1st Division would be able to cope with a proper full season structure and the 2nd division could be for teams who can't due to yawnion commitments. Only way we're going to progress and build foundations in these areas

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I think there needs to be standards across the country for the "elite" regional leagues.  This is why the collapse of the CLS with no concept or idea of a replacement is so disappointing.

For instance, if you have a primary tenancy on your ground or have the ability to provide a pitch for a full-season, that should be the aim.  For me, the real issue that I've experienced this year more than ever before is the innate selfishness of clubs.  In a way, it's unavoidable and in a place like the West of England league, you'd hope clubs are far enough apart to have separate catchment areas.  So I'm at a point where I feel that to get to an eight month season, we need a level of cooperation that just isn't there.

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On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 1:03 PM, DoubleD said:

I'd have hoped the West of England 1st Division would be able to cope with a proper full season structure and the 2nd division could be for teams who can't due to yawnion commitments. Only way we're going to progress and build foundations in these areas

The best scenario would be getting 4-5 clubs each from South Wales and the West Country into one division playing a full season. Then you'd have local leagues in each region playing a shorter season. Wales could already provide 4 clubs ready to play a full season.

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Ladies and Gentleman, if you're not busy this Sunday come along to Swindon St George RL's first annual President's Day at Supermarine RFC (SN3 4TT). Festivities, including food and drink, kids bouncy castle, inflatable adult gladiator podium, start at noon, with the Chairman's XIII vs Captain's XIII match kicking off at 2pm.

Entry is free but there will be buckets for donations for Ted's Smile, a charity that's close to the hearts of all at the club.

https://www.facebook.com/TedsSmile/

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WEST OF ENGLAND PRESEASON 
Bristol Sonics 32 - 46 Torfaen Tigers

SWINDON ST GEORGE'S PRESIDENT'S DAY 
Captain's XIII 42-42 Chairman's XIII 

Ted Grove score the crucial equalising try at Swindon St George’s President's Day. Eight-year-old Ted suffers from a rare brain disease called AADC which affects just six people in the UK and 100 worldwide. With just seconds remaining in the match, Ted entered the field and score the vital points to ensure the match ended in a tie. The whole day was a fundraiser for Ted and his charity, Ted’s Smile, which helps raise money to pay for all the necessary facilities to make his life better.

https://www.facebook.com/TedsSmile/hi 

 

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Saturday 6 May
West of England 9's
KO@Noon
Supermarine Sports & Social Club 
SN3 4TT

Swindon St George 
Swindon St George  A
Bath RL
Bath & Wiltshire Romans
Bristol Sonics 
Cheltenham Phoenix 
Oxford Cavaliers 
Supermarine RFC 
SCOB Barbarians 
Caveman Rugby 

Should be a fun afternoon!

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The draw for the West of England 9's

Group A
Cheltenham Phoenix 
Oxford Cavaliers 
Honey Badgers 
Bristol Sonics 
Swindon St George A

Group B
Bath & Wiltshire Romans 
Supermarine RFC 
Swindon St George 
Bath RL
Barbarians 

First games kick off at 11am

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It is a shame that the cls folded, perhaps if 8 teams entered playing each other only once there would only be 2 or 3 long away games at most. It could also enable them to enter their regional leagues also as these are usually no more than 10 games. Would be a tight squeeze into a 3/4 month block but could be done. A play off between 1st/2nd only regional leagues could be used as qualifiers for the following season. Top 4 retain their place, but teams in bottom 4 could equality by winning their regional league. This would improve standards and maybe commitment to a longer season.

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6 hours ago, kev p said:

It is a shame that the cls folded, perhaps if 8 teams entered playing each other only once there would only be 2 or 3 long away games at most. It could also enable them to enter their regional leagues also as these are usually no more than 10 games. Would be a tight squeeze into a 3/4 month block but could be done. A play off between 1st/2nd only regional leagues could be used as qualifiers for the following season. Top 4 retain their place, but teams in bottom 4 could equality by winning their regional league. This would improve standards and maybe commitment to a longer season.

There wouldn't be enough tough games for the better teams from CLS and it also would distort each of the regional leagues. That is, if the bottom teams in the regional leagues were actually willing to play. What would be more likely I'd expect would be that already precarious teams would struggle to put a team out to lose by 70. 

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SWINDON ST GEORGE ARE THE 2017 WEST OF ENGLAND RL9'S CHAMPIONS! 

They beat Swindon College Old Boys (local RU side) 26-20 in the Final. It was a great day enjoyed by all! 

 

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West of England starts this weekend! 

 

Saturday 13 May - KO @ 2.30
Pool A
Portsmouth Seahawks 0-24 Swindon St George 
Bath RL v Bristol Sonics 
Oxford Cavaliers P-P Southampton Spitfires 

Pool B
Swindon St George A v Cheltenham Phoenix 
Bath & Wiltshire Romans v Somerset Vikings 
Gloucester Warriors v Forest Bulldogs*

*This fixture might be the other way round. 
 

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Round 1 results 

Pool A
Portsmouth Seahawks 0-24 Swindon St George 
Bath RL 46-36 Bristol Sonics 
Oxford Cavaliers P-P Southampton Spitfires 

Pool B
Swindon St George A 16-60 Cheltenham Phoenix 
Bath & Wiltshire Romans 16-30 Somerset Vikings 
Forest Bulldogs 56-16 Gloucester Warriors

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Saturday 20 May KO @ 2.30

Pool A
Swindon St George v Bristol Sonics
Southampton Spitfires v Portsmouth Seahawks 
Oxford Cavaliers v Bath RL 

Pool B
Somerset Vikings v Swindon St George A 
Forest Bulldogs v Bath & Wiltshire Romans 
Cheltenham Phoenix v Gloucester Warriors 

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Week 2 results 

Pool A
Swindon St George 21-20 Bristol Sonics
Southampton Spitfires 46-12 Portsmouth Seahawks 
Oxford Cavaliers 30-32 Bath RL 

Pool B
Somerset Vikings 58-16 Swindon St George A 
Forest Bulldogs 66-10 Bath & Wiltshire Romans 
Gloucester Warriors 26-56 Cheltenham Phoenix 

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Pleasing that all six fixtures completed. Thats the challenge? Compared to the early days when Cheltenham Warriors kicked off the West Country has made some progress.

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