jenson Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Frank Pritchard is out of the mid-season test, but eligibility changes give Samoa their strongest squad ever. England as underdogs? Samoa could give the whole World Cup a shake if they can develop some of these combinations. Shout out if I've missed any: 1. Young Tonumaipea 2. David Nofoaluma 3. Joey Leilua 4. Tim Lafai 5. Antonio Winterstein 6. Ben Roberts 7. Anthony Milford 8. Sam Kasiano 9. Kaysa Pritchard 10. Junior Paulo 11. Sia Soliola 12. Sione Mata'utia 13. Josh McGuire 14. Leeson Ah Mau 15. Jesse Sue 16. Issac Liu 17. Nu Brown Leilua, McGuire seem most likely to get Aussie call-ups. Kasiano might get NZ interest. But there's plenty of depth. NRL: Pat Vai Vai, Kirisome Au'ava, Frank Winterstein, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Bunty Afoa, Sam Lisone, Ken Maumalo, Peter Mata'utia, Pat Mata'utia, Chanel Mata'utia, Daniel Vidot, Matt Wright, Peta Godinet, Erin Clark, Mason Lino SL: Krisnan Inu, Harrison Hanson, Willie Isa, Junior Moors, Lama Tasi. Thomas Lealuai has Samoan heritage so might be a veteran presence if overlooked by NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Not a bad halves partnership Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, MatthewWoody said: Not a bad halves partnership They didn't have much of a choice of halves when they played in the 4 Nations. This potential selection is much better. It should be a great test of England's mettle, if Samoa can get the majority of the players mentioned in the OP. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenson Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 58 minutes ago, Futtocks said: It should be a great test of England's mettle, if Samoa can get the majority of the players mentioned in the OP. Absolutely. A hard-fought, physical win in a hastily organised game would do wonders for English confidence. NB I edited the OP to take Lolohea out. No strong reason ... other than his Tongan heritage ... oops. Nu Brown is still solid, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 A win for Samoa. It's not beyond them. I hold my breath in hope.,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 You missed out Patrick Ah Van ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 And Willie Isa edit: just re-read OP apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B rad Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Have they selected the team yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenson Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 54 minutes ago, B rad said: Have they selected the team yet? Was wondering the same myself. Haven't seen it mentioned. A few more I forgot - John Asiata, Suaia Matagi and Nelson Asofa-Solomona all qualify too. Aparently Milford and McGuire confirmed their eligibility. With Widdop out, this game is shaping as a cracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, jenson said: Was wondering the same myself. Haven't seen it mentioned. A few more I forgot - John Asiata, Suaia Matagi and Nelson Asofa-Solomona all qualify too. Aparently Milford and McGuire confirmed their eligibility. With Widdop out, this game is shaping as a cracker. Surely Asofa Solomona must be on the NZ shortlist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Toa Samoa SquadNB: Players are listed in alphabetical order with an additional player to be included following the completion of Round 9 NRL Telstra Premiership matches. Leeson Ah Mau – St George Illawarra Dragons John Asiata - North Queensland Cowboys Fa'amanu Brown – Cronulla Sutherland Sharks Herman Ese'ese – Brisbane Broncos Sam Kasiano – Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs Tim Lafai - St George Illawarra Dragons Joseph Leilua – Canberra Raiders Isaac Liu – Sydney Roosters Josh McGuire– Brisbane Broncos Peter Mata'utia – Newcastle Knights Sione Mata'utia - Newcastle Knights Suaia Matagi – Parramatta Eels Anthony Milford – Brisbane Broncos David Nofoaluma – Wests Tigers Kaysa Pritchard – Parramatta Eels Sauaso Sue – Wests Tigers Antonio Winterstein – North Queensland Cowboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 On 28/04/2017 at 9:09 AM, jenson said: Was wondering the same myself. Haven't seen it mentioned. A few more I forgot - John Asiata, Suaia Matagi and Nelson Asofa-Solomona all qualify too. Aparently Milford and McGuire confirmed their eligibility. With Widdop out, this game is shaping as a cracker. You also forgot Jesse Sene Lefao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickhornet Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Is it being televised or shown on line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 On 4/21/2017 at 6:36 AM, jenson said: Frank Pritchard is out of the mid-season test, but eligibility changes give Samoa their strongest squad ever. England as underdogs? Samoa could give the whole World Cup a shake if they can develop some of these combinations. Shout out if I've missed any: 1. Young Tonumaipea 2. David Nofoaluma 3. Joey Leilua 4. Tim Lafai 5. Antonio Winterstein 6. Ben Roberts 7. Anthony Milford 8. Sam Kasiano 9. Kaysa Pritchard 10. Junior Paulo 11. Sia Soliola 12. Sione Mata'utia 13. Josh McGuire 14. Leeson Ah Mau 15. Jesse Sue 16. Issac Liu 17. Nu Brown Leilua, McGuire seem most likely to get Aussie call-ups. Kasiano might get NZ interest. But there's plenty of depth. NRL: Pat Vai Vai, Kirisome Au'ava, Frank Winterstein, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Bunty Afoa, Sam Lisone, Ken Maumalo, Peter Mata'utia, Pat Mata'utia, Chanel Mata'utia, Daniel Vidot, Matt Wright, Peta Godinet, Erin Clark, Mason Lino SL: Krisnan Inu, Harrison Hanson, Willie Isa, Junior Moors, Lama Tasi. Thomas Lealuai has Samoan heritage so might be a veteran presence if overlooked by NZ. I doubt McGuire will be even close to an Australian Test spot. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 On 20/4/2017 at 10:36 PM, jenson said: SL: Krisnan Inu, Harrison Hanson, Willie Isa, Junior Moors, Lama Tasi. Thomas Lealuai has Samoan heritage so might be a veteran presence if overlooked by NZ. NZ don't select non NRL based players. Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, MatthewWoody said: NZ don't select non NRL based players. None of those players would be any chance anyway. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Back on topic, it's a bit worrying that a lot of people here are against the use of 1 or 2 Aussie-English player for England because if they are not chosen by Australia they 'are not good enough to beat the Aussies", and now we're talking about a good and reliable test against a side (Samoa) full of players 'not good enough" for the Kiwis/Australia's side. Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 4 hours ago, MatthewWoody said: Back on topic, it's a bit worrying that a lot of people here are against the use of 1 or 2 Aussie-English player for England because if they are not chosen by Australia they 'are not good enough to beat the Aussies", and now we're talking about a good and reliable test against a side (Samoa) full of players 'not good enough" for the Kiwis/Australia's side. Why do you have a bee in your bonnet about this? Samoa can do what they like. As one of only two fully professional leagues in the world we (England) shouldn't need to select average heritage Aussies especially in the positions they have been selected in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, deluded pom? said: Why do you have a bee in your bonnet about this? Samoa can do what they like. As one of only two fully professional leagues in the world we (England) shouldn't need to select average heritage Aussies especially in the positions they have been selected in. And why are they 'average'? Cause they'v been overlooked by the Aussies? The same can be said about Samoans but it's become a tough test etc. I'm not discussing the legitimacy of the selections (I'm 100% sure a guy with an English family is actually English), but the "you don't beat the Aussies with the players they didn't want" and they considering a tough test a match against a team full of players the Aussies and the Kiwis didn't want. If it's actually true an Australian 2nd choice is not good enough for England, England will smash Samoa tomorrow. Simply logic. Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwis 13 6 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Well the crazy Islanders from the Island of Britain were victorious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiddyDave Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Yes and a very comfortable victory too,30-10,says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenson Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Great performance from the men in white. It had all the makings of an ambush but they showed great composure and discipline to wear Samoa down. The playmakers showed their class. Hopefully Samoa (and the undercards from Tonga, Fiji & PNG) gained confidence and combination to put in competitive performances at the end of the year. Also hoping the growth of this weekend inspires commitment to a similar SL break with Scotland, Wales, France, Ireland in the years to come. Gives everyone something to plan for and build off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 7/5/2017 at 11:09 PM, jenson said: Great performance from the men in white. It had all the makings of an ambush but they showed great composure and discipline to wear Samoa down. The playmakers showed their class. Hopefully Samoa (and the undercards from Tonga, Fiji & PNG) gained confidence and combination to put in competitive performances at the end of the year. Also hoping the growth of this weekend inspires commitment to a similar SL break with Scotland, Wales, France, Ireland in the years to come. Gives everyone something to plan for and build off. 100% agree. I really loved PNG. Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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