Moc Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Due to England RL messing up tweet i'll post team Scubby provided England squad for the Pacific Test Match against Samoa (professional and community club shown): Sam Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor) Thomas Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor) Luke Gale (Castleford Tigers, Middleton Marauders) James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs, Blackbrook) Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders) Zak Hardaker (Castleford Tigers, Featherstone Lions) Chris Heighington (Cronulla Sutherland Sharks, Umina Bunnies) Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves, New Springs Lions) Josh Hodgson (Canberra Raiders, East Hull) Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield Giants, Deighton Juniors) Mike McMeeken (Castleford Tigers, Staines Titans) Chris McQueen (Gold Coast Titans. Wynnum Manly Seagulls) Sean O'Loughlin (C) (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks) Mark Percival (St Helens, Halton Farnworth Hornets) Scott Taylor (Hull FC, Skirlaugh) Alex Walmsley (St Helens, Dewsbury Celtic) Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion) Elliott Whitehead (Canberra Raiders, West Bowling) Gareth Widdop (St. George Illawarra Dragons, King Cross) George Williams (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 England squad for the Pacific Test Match against Samoa (professional and community club shown): Sam Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor) Thomas Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor) Luke Gale (Castleford Tigers, Middleton Marauders) James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs, Blackbrook) Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders) Zak Hardaker (Castleford Tigers, Featherstone Lions) Chris Heighington (Cronulla Sutherland Sharks, Umina Bunnies) Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves, New Springs Lions) Josh Hodgson (Canberra Raiders, East Hull) Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield Giants, Deighton Juniors) Mike McMeeken (Castleford Tigers, Staines Titans) Chris McQueen (Gold Coast Titans. Wynnum Manly Seagulls) Sean O'Loughlin (C) (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks) Mark Percival (St Helens, Halton Farnworth Hornets) Scott Taylor (Hull FC, Skirlaugh) Alex Walmsley (St Helens, Dewsbury Celtic) Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion) Elliott Whitehead (Canberra Raiders, West Bowling) Gareth Widdop (St. George Illawarra Dragons, King Cross) George Williams (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Before anyone goes ballistic about this. I can only assume that Heighington is there as local cover to save any more English SL players having to fly out. Call it a Wood money saver if you will! McQueen may be a different story. My gripe is that after cancelling the Dubai trip, England should have had 24 players over there as a team bonding preparation week. Go big or go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie9 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Good squad fine with Heighington being included since he has played for England before but can't understand McQueen being included especially since he has played for Queensland in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Scubby said: Before anyone goes ballistic about this. I can only assume that Heighington is there as local cover to save any more English SL players having to fly out. Call it a Wood money saver if you will! McQueen may be a different story. We shouldnt be gifting call ups to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Dave T said: We shouldnt be gifting call ups to anyone. I agree completely. As I've just edited into my last post, My gripe is that after cancelling the Dubai trip, England should have had 24 players over there as a team bonding preparation week. Go big or go home. Heighington has a Nigel Wood money saver written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moc Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 McQueen is odd, anyone know how he's been doing this season - I havent been paying attention Tom Burgess but not George - previously George was the better of the two imo Overall im happy with the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Moc said: McQueen is odd, anyone know how he's been doing this season - I havent been paying attention Tom Burgess but not George - previously George was the better of the two imo Overall im happy with the squad I think George is up before the disciplinary and may have to sit some weeks out. McQueen has been playing really well. But he was also playing really well last year and was not picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moc Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, Scubby said: I think George is up before the disciplinary and may have to sit some weeks out. McQueen has been playing really well. But he was also playing really well last year and was not picked. Oh aye shoulder charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanwood7 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Presumably Sarginson will provide cover for the backs as the back 5 picks itself. Heighington is the standout pick - he wasn't good enough last time round and it's difficult to see how he'll be better as a 35 year old. Having said that, i'd be amazed if he got anywhere near the team, and he should find it even harder to get near it once Currie is back fit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPosh Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Is Daryl Clark injured? People called Romans they go the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsal Outlaw Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Heighington and McQueen, what are we doing. They're not English and have shown no desire to make us there no.1 priority. Get them out. Pleased to see Gale get a go, he's been great this year. Nottingham Outlaws Rugby League Harry Jepson Winners 2008 RLC Midlands Premier Champions 2006 & 2008 East Midlands Challenge Cup Winners 2005, 2006, 2007 & 2008 Rotterdam International 9's Cup Winners 2005 RLC North Midlands Champions 2003 & 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Reggie9 said: Good squad fine with Heighington being included since he has played for England before but can't understand McQueen being included especially since he has played for Queensland in the past. So what? Former SOO players are good for Ireland etc., but not for England? Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, MrPosh said: Is Daryl Clark injured? Bennett doesnt appear to rate him. He's no Heighington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Pleased that McMeeken has got deserved recognition, great player to have on the bench, gives more options than most others. "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Decent looking squad . Only 20 so a few you'd like to have seen miss out , but I've no complaints with him having a look a players , that's what it's for , and I don't think we should beat ourselves up for doing what every other side is doing . If eligible committed and the coach thinks will add something then fine . I'm surprised anyone is surprised Bennett did this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsal Outlaw Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, MatthewWoody said: So what? Former SOO players are good for Ireland etc., but not for England? Correct, England don't need any Aussie picking us as their second choice because they can't get in their own team. Nottingham Outlaws Rugby League Harry Jepson Winners 2008 RLC Midlands Premier Champions 2006 & 2008 East Midlands Challenge Cup Winners 2005, 2006, 2007 & 2008 Rotterdam International 9's Cup Winners 2005 RLC North Midlands Champions 2003 & 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, MatthewWoody said: So what? Former SOO players are good for Ireland etc., but not for England? Correct Woody, we have alternatives, Ireland, or Scotland and Wales for that matter don't, we should stick to our own, don't make an abortion of International selection like the Rah Rah's do. "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, MatthewWoody said: So what? Former SOO players are good for Ireland etc., but not for England? As England has a fully professional League and 2 part time leagues as well as a relatively robust amateur setup compared to Ireland etc who have none of these then no for England it isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, DavidM said: Decent looking squad . Only 20 so a few you'd like to have seen miss out , but I've no complaints with him having a look a players , that's what it's for , and I don't think we should beat ourselves up for doing what every other side is doing . If eligible committed and the coach thinks will add something then fine . I'm surprised anyone is surprised Bennett did this . Like the players, I am surprised we chose Bennett. "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvy wg Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Guys can we stop fighting about McQueen and Heighington and celebrate the fact that McMeeken has been picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Staines' first international. At last something for that town to celebrate! I agree that Heighington must be a palace saver for Currie or Bateman. It kills Farrell's international career stone dead which I think is harsh but maybe he is simply too small ever to challenge the Roos or Kiwis. Whee does MCQueen play - wiki says second row, lock or centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewWoody Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said: Correct, England don't need any Aussie picking us as their second choice because they can't get in their own team. Results tell me the opposite. England hasn't won v Australia since when...? So yes, a player not good enough for Australia can happen to be good enough for England. If heritage players can't play for England, then we'd better abolysh them from the game and go back to a 4-5 teams World Cup. And please don't play Samoa, as they're full of heritage players. Italy won the 2006 World Cup in football with Mauro German Camoranesi, a player who came to be better than its Argentinian colleagues. 6 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: As England has a fully professional League and 2 part time leagues as well as a relatively robust amateur setup compared to Ireland etc who have none of these then no for England it isn't good enough. A league that is miles away from the NRL, in terms of level/intensity. England's best n. 6 was actually produced by the Australian system. It's hypocrite not to want heritage players in your team, while talking about selection for a match against a team full of them. Toronto Wolfpack Global Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, Moc said: McQueen is odd, anyone know how he's been doing this season - I havent been paying attention Tom Burgess but not George - previously George was the better of the two imo Overall im happy with the squad Toms been better than George this year but apart from last week neither have been great. Can't for the life of me see how McQueen and Heighinton get into this team. In fact if I was picking a 24 man squad I don't think they'd get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, MatthewWoody said: Results tell me the opposite. England hasn't won v Australia since when...? So yes, a player not good enough for Australia can happen to be good enough for England. If heritage players can't play for England, then we'd better abolysh them from the game and go back to a 4-5 teams World Cup. And please don't play Samoa, as they're full of heritage players. Italy won the 2006 World Cup in football with Mauro German Camoranesi, a player who came to be better than its Argentinian colleagues. A league that is miles away from the NRL, in terms of level/intensity. England's best n. 6 was actually produced by the Australian system. It's hypocrite not to want heritage players in your team, while talking about selection for a match against a team full of them. It's a conscious thing for me Woody, I would sooner lose gracefully other than win and employ those who do not belong. "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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