Bob8 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I am sure this will go nowhere good. As of today, it seems some people no longer think there were links between the DUP and Ulster Resistance/UDA. There does seem to still be the belief that Sinn Fein and IRA were linked. It though it worth a separate thread, which I will run away form, to prevent thread drift and leave the other thread safe. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The DUP certainly have met the leaders of the UDA in the last year, there are smiling photos. With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 So. Absolutely no connection whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 I have a friend in the USA, who is a very ardent Republican (as in USA Republican). He did not like Trump as he said many non-Republican things and was surprised when he saw his friends change their views to match the new party line. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rhino Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Quote of the day 'The DUP policy is basically the Old Testament with twice weekly bin collections' Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Sadler Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Johnoco said: If I woke up and someone had painted that on my house, I'd be fuming. I'd stay up all night to catch them 'red handed' actually. There are quite a lot of houses decorated like that in Belfast. Bob8 seems to think they are all painted by order of the leadership of the DUP. I rather doubt that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Sadler Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Shadow said: So. Absolutely no connection whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The DUP & Conservative parties are the same politically, they wish for the Union of Great Britain & Ireland, as a United Kingdom. Rev. Ian Paisley was leader of DUP for many years. The only divide came in the early 20th c when Eire was granted Independence. Theresa May called on the Conservative and Unionist party to unite behind her, that wasn't a veiled promise of DUP co-operation, that is the title of the fascist party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Martyn Sadler said: There are quite a lot of houses decorated like that in Belfast. Bob8 seems to think they are all painted by order of the leadership of the DUP. I rather doubt that they are. It is odd that the paramilitaries go to the trouble of advertising the connection. And go further: threaten those in their community who do not vote DUP. I mean, that's a very strange thing to do when they have no connection with each other. Still, it's good that we have so many sudden experts on here to correct any misunderstandings. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Johnoco said: If I woke up and someone had painted that on my house, I'd be fuming. I'd stay up all night to catch them 'red handed' actually. It's good but it's no escape mechanism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themainbrace Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 This alliance or whatever it is could go as badly as the "arrangement" between John Majors Tories and the Ulster Unionists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getdownmonkeyman Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Playing devils advocate here. The terrorists the DUP have been linked to were (at least from a British point of view) loyalists. This obviously makes them distinct from the IRA in relation to how the British state views them. It seems that lots of people are rising up to criticise such links without appreciating NI was till relatively recently (and in many places still is) divided sometimes violently along sectarian lines. If you've never been to Northern Ireland or had family there, especially in the working class areas of the cities, then its hard to describe how politics, nationality, culture, history, even claimed ethnicity are important and imbued into everyday life; a lot of the time without even realising it. You could argue every unionist party was connected to a terror organisation (the british state) should one so wish. The political circumstances in NI are completely separate - in many ways because we in GB separated them. The DUP have along with SF have had to be very grown up in power sharing and have now unified the notoriously divided Unionist vote. We've forgotten NI for too long, tried to brush it under the carpet, and now its coming home to roost. Just some thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westlondonfan Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Johnoco said: Is that the brilliant Steve Coogan? Wasnt that a satire on the fact that the BBC were not allowed to use Gerry Adams voice so used an actor instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 A fabulous series..... the fantastic Brian O'Hanrahanrahan and Barbara Wintergreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/former-dup-council-candidate-sentenced-to-eight-years-for-pipebomb-attack-on-polish-neighbours-29206287.html Nice man "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Phil said: http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/former-dup-council-candidate-sentenced-to-eight-years-for-pipebomb-attack-on-polish-neighbours-29206287.html Nice man If it was an individual, that would not be the issue. Clearly, each party will have some terrible people. Sinn Fein and the DUP are set up to be linked and have a paramilitary wing. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Bob8 said: If it was an individual, that would not be the issue. Clearly, each party will have some terrible people. Sinn Fein and the DUP are set up to be linked and have a paramilitary wing. Bob I agree, but there are some on this board who are denying any paramilitaries are/were linked to the DUP "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Is this the MPLA Is the UDA Is this the IRA Oh no its Theresa May Or just another TORY John Lydon 1977 With a couple of adjustments. "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 William Ulsterman "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Phil said: Is this the MPLA Is the UDA Is this the IRA Oh no its Theresa May Or just another TORY John Lydon 1977 With a couple of adjustments. Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 The William Ulsterman thing is funny but on a real level this is the kind of thing my parents and others had to endure. When the orangemen said "we don't give an inch" it wasn't rhetoric, they absolutely meant it, when they said "what we have we hold" they meant that too. Now imagine trying to negotiate with a party whose basic tenets are those above. There are lots of reasons why the republicans took up the armed struggle but this is a major one. "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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