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Heard him being interviewd by Farage last night, he seems to think that he can wear a badge of honour for never having changed a nappy on any of his 6 children, thats what nannys are for apparently.

His voting record indicates what a charmer he is, unless your gay, female, dependent on the state or keen for the government to be held account on overseas wars!

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The great British public will happily ignore any manner of nasty character or incompetence as long as it's packaged in an amusing manner, be it Rees-Mogg with his decades out of touch attitude, Boris with his foppish joviality or even Corbyn with his bumbling old rebel attitude.

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He's always struck me as being particularly cold and emotionless, happier interacting with a spreadsheet than with people 

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He is definitely the new Boris: top bantz and proper lolz. Until it turns out he genuinely does believe that women, poor people, and foreigners should know their place, and that that place is below him.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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Speaking to a friend of his, he sees his goal of being leader of the Conservative party is not far off.

He believes the Tory party will need a Leave leader prepared to bend the rules a little.

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https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes

 

and his voting record is a veritable cornucopia os smacking down the lower orders. i wonder how he squares off his vote on housing benefits with the millions his wife's ancestral home cost the tax payer to do up. he's a card isn't he a real quirky guy

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2 hours ago, Saintslass said:

I like him.  He isn't afraid to be who he is.  He can be really funny too.  I loved the slap down he gave David Dimbleby on QT that time.

Yes he's very likable, as long as you're prepared to ignore the self centered, self serving, condescending, out of touch and arrogant side of his "character".

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14 minutes ago, Griff9of13 said:

Yes he's very likable, as long as you're prepared to ignore the self centered, self serving, condescending, out of touch and arrogant side of his "character".

"In many single worker families the other parent may not be able to work because of family caring responsibilities while the effect of tax and benefit decisions need to be better understood. Essentially the government ought to ensure that family caring needs do not disadvantage single parent earners against dual income families." - Jacob Rees-Mogg 

 

The self centered, self serving, condescending, out of touch tyrant wanting to see people not miss out when they put family first! :ph34r:

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26 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

"In many single worker families the other parent may not be able to work because of family caring responsibilities while the effect of tax and benefit decisions need to be better understood. Essentially the government ought to ensure that family caring needs do not disadvantage single parent earners against dual income families." - Jacob Rees-Mogg 

 

The self centered, self serving, condescending, out of touch tyrant wanting to see people not miss out when they put family first! :ph34r:

For more information on Mr Mogg's ideas of putting families first see his voting record above. And the taxpayer certainly put his family first when it came to restoring the family seat. And as for members of those families getting ideas above their station, well it stands to reason that they had better know their place

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9 minutes ago, Tongs ya bas said:

For more information on Mr Mogg's ideas of putting families first see his votingvrecird above. And the taxpayer certainly put his family first when it came to restoring the family seat

So do you disagree with what he said in the quote I put up?

Yes? No?

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9 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

So do you disagree with what he said in the quote I put up? Yes or no

No I don't, although I would like to check the context and background: but it would be at best naive and at worse mendacious to base a view of this person's values on the basis of one thing he has said: hence a comprehensive view of his voting patterns is more helpful imho

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Deeds, not words.

Otherwise you'd have to have complete belief in other political pronouncements like "strong and stable" or "education, education, education", just because people said the words.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
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3 minutes ago, Tongs ya bas said:

No I don't, although I would like to check the context and background: but it would be at best naive and at worse mendacious to base a view of this person's values on the basis of one thing he has said: hence a comprehensive view of his voting patterns is more helpful imho

I wasn't asking you to base your view on his values based on this one quote. I asked if you agreed with him about stay-at-home parents.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Futtocks said:

Deeds, not words.

Otherwise you'd have to have complete belief in other political pronouncements like "strong and stable" or "education, education, education", just because people said the words.

The OP started The Wisdom of Jacob Rees-Mogg thread with a quote. I just continued the thread with another quote...

 

...and quotes use words 

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51 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Deeds, not words.

Otherwise you'd have to have complete belief in other political pronouncements like "strong and stable" or "education, education, education", just because people said the words.

The words that people use inform us of their views and ideas: Rees-Mogg's votes in parliament are deeds. They tell us a lot.

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6 hours ago, Tongs ya bas said:

http://tlio.org.uk/rees-mogg-wifes-ancestral-home-benefits-from-7-6m-state-rescue/

 

well he certainly knows his station; and he's got us paying for it. how rich are the rees-moggs again/

Nothing to do with him or his wife anymore. Owned by someone else now and right the government stepped in , pity it took a Tory government to do this. I think under Labour huge holes were dug all round the house. We don't have the money to save all the old houses but something as significant and grand as  this I'll turn a blind eye.

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13 hours ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

I wasn't asking you to base your view on his values based on this one quote. I asked if you agreed with him about stay-at-home parents.

 

 

which i did

and your general point was valid wr. you can't make a general point by citing a particular example.

my point was that rees mogg gets laughs, and people cheer lead his quirky personality and way of presenting himself, but in fact there is more to him than meets the monocle, which i supported by providing his voting record. 

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11 hours ago, Ramite said:

Nothing to do with him or his wife anymore. Owned by someone else now and right the government stepped in , pity it took a Tory government to do this. I think under Labour huge holes were dug all round the house. We don't have the money to save all the old houses but something as significant and grand as  this I'll turn a blind eye.

thanks for the clarification.

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Maybe its because I'm of a certain age, but some of the memes, the facebook pages, etc are often hilarious whilst also being very aware of their own limited spectrum. JRM is often the subject as he undoubtedly comes up with some good one liners. Many of these pages focus on Mogg but also other unashamedly conservative or pro brexit or often just eccentric individuals like Peter Hitchens, Farage or Boris Johnson - I've seen a few even aimed at ulster unionist and republicans as well as Ruth Davidson. One of the websites to have sprang out of this movement (with merchandise and everything) is called 'conservative cavalier', which says it all really. They also must be understood in the context of the underground, clandestine way most youth conservative groups now operate. The internet allows an extent of unabashed escapism from what must feel at times the often oppressively "left" wing University and college campus' of the UK. In this world, such unashamedly conservative characters provide a beacon for young conservatives (small c) in a perverted reflection of the way gay icons did in the past for people oppressed by society's view of their sexuality. In many ways, its nice for them to know they're not the only ones.

I don't think Mogg takes them seriously as a way to support - they are a form of satire after all. Indeed its a very public school humour imo, but that is not to say that it is limited to public schoolboys - indeed many of the memes are depricating to the subject. Its light hearted and reading into it any more than that is silly. There's plenty of similarly left wing meme pages.

On a serious note, between Mogg and someone like Heidi Allen and Ruth Davidson, the tories may be able to rally their grassroots in a way not seen really since Thatcher. Neither is capable of being leader, yet, but both appeal to different yet equally important sections of potential Tory support.

To be honest I just laugh at them for the satire they are. After all, "you can't clog the mogg".

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