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3 hours ago, tim2 said:

The member for Batman????

 

Bruce Wayne's old seat. He held that for 30 years.

John Batman was a Parramatta boy who went on to become the founder of Melbourne.

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Seems a nice chap -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-45191315

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An Australian senator has been widely condemned for a speech that invoked the term "final solution" in a call for immigration restrictions based on race.

Fraser Anning, from the conservative Katter's Australian Party, called for migration bans on Muslims and others in his maiden Senate speech on Tuesday.

 

 

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16 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Key words from his speech in parliament 

blood
soil
race
inherited identity
assimilation
Christian
traditional social values
Australian nationalist
cultural marxists
unfettered ownership of private property
firearms
God-given rights
Anglo-Celtic nation
our place in the world
Judeo-Christian values
marriage was a union between a man and woman
sanctity of the lives of the unborn
the importance of our predominantly European identity
Soviet-inspired UN Treaties
cultural conquest of our nation
insidious silent revolution
disguise degeneracy as liberation and tyranny as compassion
“gender fluidity” garbage
everyone knows there are only two genders
subversion
take back our culture
not permanent residents or Australian citizens were barred from buying residential property
professional freeloaders
Ethno-cultural diversity – which is known to undermine social cohesion
white flight
steal jobs
social cohesion and national identity
Muslims
while all Muslims are not terrorists, certainly all terrorists these days are Muslims
The final solution to the immigration problem 
cultural counter-revolution
our nation’s Founding Fathers
left-wing elites
Ethnicity is not just skin deep

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I think the biggest scandal here is the fact that Fraser Anning got into the Senate with only 19 first-preference votes. The lowest successful vote for NSW Senators was David Leyonhjelm with 137,000 votes.  Even though the Liberal Dems got 133,000 Party votes, Leyonhjelm still got 5,000personal votes. I agree with Paul Keating about the Senate - "unrepresentative swill"

 

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3 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Wasn't there some controversy over having actual Nazi's on tv too recently?

That was a good example of the Outrage-Industrial Complex working overtime. Blair Cottrell is probably just UKIPish, not even EDL and the outrage was pumped up after he appeared on a SKY programme. He's been on the ABC before and the sky didn't fall (although, in my area, a lot of the frogs turned gay.) For me the worst part was the Victorian Govt's withdrawal of all SKY content from TVs on the Vic Rail system because "people had complained about having to watch "Nazis" on TV at stations." Turns out that SKY show wasn't even part of the package they sold to Vic Rail so nobody could have seen it on a Vic Rail TV.

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35 minutes ago, Farmduck said:

I think the biggest scandal here is the fact that Fraser Anning got into the Senate with only 19 first-preference votes. The lowest successful vote for NSW Senators was David Leyonhjelm with 137,000 votes.  Even though the Liberal Dems got 133,000 Party votes, Leyonhjelm still got 5,000personal votes. I agree with Paul Keating about the Senate - "unrepresentative swill"

 

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So he got 19 direct votes?  Blimey!  Seems a strange quirk of the system?

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18 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

So he got 19 direct votes?  Blimey!  Seems a strange quirk of the system?

Even our Senators couldn't explain the Senate voting system. I probably only get it about 80% and I don't know a single person who could explain it even that much. Then, because it's based on a standard number of Senators per State, Tasmanian Senators need tiny vote counts compared with NSW or Vic Senators. Then you throw in the fact that, in most elections, NSW has at least 100 candidates for the Senate - 120 in 2016, I think - and you can either vote for people individually or block vote for a party and ..... zzzzzz

It needs a huge overhaul but that would require Constitutional change which would require 2 successful referenda on an extremely dry topic which nobody understands so it won't happen.

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20 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

So he got 19 direct votes?  Blimey!  Seems a strange quirk of the system?

When voting on the Senate you can either choose a party or rank every senator. The vast majority of people choose a party and let them decide who gets the position.

This chap was initially never offered a position but obtained his seat after the senator representing the party was kicked out for being a dual citizen.

After moving into to senate he immediately dumped the party that put him there, joined another group and went rogue.

He will be there for 7 years.

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We got a new PM today. The previous one almost lasted 3 years but fell about 3 weeks short. The new one is Some Guy, the member for Somewhere or Other. The Liberals have a fundamental problem: they can't find a leader conservative enough to satisfy the Parliamentary party AND get elected by the people.

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3 hours ago, Farmduck said:

We got a new PM today. The previous one almost lasted 3 years but fell about 3 weeks short. The new one is Some Guy, the member for Somewhere or Other. The Liberals have a fundamental problem: they can't find a leader conservative enough to satisfy the Parliamentary party AND get elected by the people.

The coal guy is the PM?

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32 minutes ago, henage said:

Is that a problem ? 

Seem to like a change now and again the Australians 

Morrison is a dedicated supporter of the Cronulla Sharks and a very keen Rugby League fan generally, apparently.

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1 hour ago, henage said:

Is that a problem ? 

Seem to like a change now and again the Australians 

Our Liberal Party is our conservative party but they have a few different types of conservatives. The religious conservatives, US-style, don't get much traction here because we're about 30% atheist and agnostic or no religion. We have a range of laws on abortion from State to State but nobody has been arrested for getting or performing an abortion in over 50 years so it's basically just abortion on demand.

We have such a comprehensive welfare system that fiscal conservatives don't get much traction either. Nobody is going to scrap our universal health care system and since welfare includes subsidies for child care, even people who may be conservative won't scrap it. The migrants that you would expect to be socially conservative probably have both parents working with their kids in subsidised childcare and possibly their parents on some payment which is all paying off their houses, so they aren't fiscal conservatives.

It's hard to tell exactly what Turnbull did wrong and Annabel Crabb sums it up pretty well:   http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/malcolm-turnbull-liberal-party-fear-comes-to-pass/10160764?section=politics

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13 hours ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Morrison is a dedicated supporter of the Cronulla Sharks and a very keen Rugby League fan generally, apparently.

Fan of suburban grounds too.

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Mexicans have been joking about the fact that for the first time in living memory, the Richmond footy club coach's job is safer than that of the Aussie PM.

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I do like the one about it not being safe to go out at night in Canberra for fear of gangs of grey haired old men going around stabbing each other in the back.😂

Boris  should emigrate, he'd fit right in.

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