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Warrington should look at Des Hasler as coach

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8 minutes ago, The Daddy said:

Had a poor 2017 but has a great track record in the NRL, Hasler or McGuire would be good choices for them I feel 

Look at any Canterbury Forum, Hasler is absolutely despised and hated by the Fans and is blamed for the dismal signings and results this year.

Keep in mind Hasler was on an alleged $1.2 million a year contract (710K Pounds)

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/des-haslers-canterbury-bulldogs-nrl-coaching-job-under-review-at-special-meeting-daily-telegraph/news-story/c86e83f417be7f4a27aaad27e785fcb7

Can Warrington afford even half of that?

McGuire is not far behind.

They were both sacked for a good reason.

 

 

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There's articles  already touting him for origin , which wouldn't fill me with optimism if I was a blues fan looking for a more eye catching bold style and more success 

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Just now, DavidM said:

There's articles  already touting him for origin , which wouldn't fill me with optimism if I was a blues fan looking for a more eye catching bold style and more success 

I would think absolutely no chance of that.

Not in 10 million years.

 

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Dean Pay was odds on with the bookies.   Betting now closed apparently.   Read into that what you will.   I'm not really familiar with exactly how it works.

Maguire has a proven record, currently on big money just like Hasler.   Dean Pay would come with a glowing reputation as an up and coming coach, highly disciplined and experience of bringing youngsters through.   Specialises in defence so unsure about where the attack coaching would have to come from.   Smith used to let the players work it out for themselves.

I'd be more comfortable giving Pay a couple of years on a more reasonable salary to see what he can do, than risk big bucks for nothing.   I'd also have to accept that if Pay was successful here then he'd be back in Aus pretty quickly and probably wouldn't see more than 2 years here...   whoever it is hopefully they'll put a robust structure in place for a good young British coach to follow up with.

No hints from Aus or UK so far on who is most likely to come.   I think it will be more a case of who accepts the job rather than who gets the job, unfortunately.

 

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16 minutes ago, Desert Skipper said:

Dean Pay was odds on with the bookies.   Betting now closed apparently.   Read into that what you will.   I'm not really familiar with exactly how it works.

Maguire has a proven record, currently on big money just like Hasler.   Dean Pay would come with a glowing reputation as an up and coming coach, highly disciplined and experience of bringing youngsters through.   Specialises in defence so unsure about where the attack coaching would have to come from.   Smith used to let the players work it out for themselves.

I'd be more comfortable giving Pay a couple of years on a more reasonable salary to see what he can do, than risk big bucks for nothing.   I'd also have to accept that if Pay was successful here then he'd be back in Aus pretty quickly and probably wouldn't see more than 2 years here...   whoever it is hopefully they'll put a robust structure in place for a good young British coach to follow up with.

No hints from Aus or UK so far on who is most likely to come.   I think it will be more a case of who accepts the job rather than who gets the job, unfortunately.

 

So many Aussie coaches specialise in defence , and at times it's a downside to things with them if it's to unbalanced . With the Dogs you'd think they need someone to shake them up and give them more fizz and freedom in attack . They look bloated and restricted now . Beyond that I'm not enamoured with their big money recruitment , and to many there already have big  raps on them without much evidence of it 

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Betting isn't closed on anyone.  Pay, Brennan, McGuire etc etc all out of work and looking for the best job. Bulldogs, Souths, Wire all looking for a coach.  It's a toss up whether anyone will get the right man in the right job on the right continent.

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10 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

Betting isn't closed on anyone.  Pay, Brennan, McGuire etc etc all out of work and looking for the best job. Bulldogs, Souths, Wire all looking for a coach.  It's a toss up whether anyone will get the right man in the right job on the right continent.

Fair enough - as I say I don't know how the betting system works just heard that all bets were off and that was likely down to an offer being made.

Obviously we are last choice for any proven Aussie coach, and that's why I was hoping to give Pay a couple of years to build his reputation here.   We certainly shouldn't be paying 1.2 million dollars a season to anyone unless it's part of a trophy-winning bonus!

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Was lucky enough to be in Sydney last week, and was watching a show where they made the following Des Hasler joke...

Dessie walks into a bar and asks for a drink. The bar tender pours his pint and puts it on the counter. Dessie hands over a 10 dollar note. The bar man takes the money, goes to the till and puts 4 dollars in front of him. At which point, Dessie start shouting obscenity and rushes out... 

 

 

 

The bar man looks bemused, and turns to another customer who had seen the whole thing. "I'm not surprised, mate," says the drinking veteran, "Dessie hates change."

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1 hour ago, Desert Skipper said:

Fair enough - as I say I don't know how the betting system works just heard that all bets were off and that was likely down to an offer being made.

Obviously we are last choice for any proven Aussie coach, and that's why I was hoping to give Pay a couple of years to build his reputation here.   We certainly shouldn't be paying 1.2 million dollars a season to anyone unless it's part of a trophy-winning bonus!

I think he's even money, but, unless bookmakers have other information, where they could announce 'no offers', the odds are made by the amount of public money going on.

Its all relative.  Wages are higher there, but so is the cost of living and vice versa here. IMO Demitriou would be a good choice as a coach, but Smiths position is more 'manager'.  That title could probably mean Wires choice is between Pay, Furner & Griffin.  (McGuire being keen, reportedly, to stay in Sydney).  

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I too think Demetriou would be a good fit, having spent so long over here as a player.   Almost certainly wouldn't command an unreasonable salary.

Steve Price also in the running now it would seem!   Possibly gives credence to this latest story:

http://www.seriousaboutrl.com/warrington-make-bid-james-maloney-9983/

Personally think it's just a fantasy story, but Fitzpatrick did state at a recent forum that a world-class half back had rejected a contract to make him Super League's biggest earner.   If that's true and it is Maloney it's clear he wants to stay in Oz.

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1 hour ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

Was lucky enough to be in Sydney last week, and was watching a show where they made the following Des Hasler joke...

Dessie walks into a bar and asks for a drink. The bar tender pours his pint and puts it on the counter. Dessie hands over a 10 dollar note. The bar man takes the money, goes to the till and puts 4 dollars in front of him. At which point, Dessie start shouting obscenity and rushes out... 

 

 

 

The bar man looks bemused, and turns to another customer who had seen the whole thing. "I'm not surprised, mate," says the drinking veteran, "Dessie hates change."

 That was also on the Professor's show

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