Should Halifax take some of their home games to Halifax, Canada?

[Lounge Room Lizard]

2 hours ago, BenGilesRL said:

Shows what you know:

The Earldom of Halifax took the name of the town. Its first creation^{[clarification needed]}, in the Peerage of England in 1677, was for William Savile, who was created Baron Savile of Eland and Viscount Halifax in 1668 and later became the Marquess of Halifax (this creation of the earldom became extinct in 1700). George Montagu-Dunk, 2nd Earl of Halifax, (2nd order of the 3rd creation) became the President of the Board of Trade in 1748. In 1749 Montagu-Dunk helped found Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia, Canada; the city was named in his honour. He fostered trade, especially with North America.^[6] The Halifax River in Central Florida, United States, was also named after him.

 

So that's two on the road games in North America sorted, in Nova Scotia and Florida

That all you got? Great link to have a game there by Fax. Now bright spark what trade links or twin town links or something that would be of use for Fax to hold a home game in Canada?

Halifax is of course twinned with Aachen and there are groups that go over regularly. Least Halifax, UK and Aachen has something between the two areas. But there are no groups or anything between the Halifax´s

[longboard]

3 hours ago, Lounge Room Lizard said:

Sorry but this is  a dumb idea as there is first no Rugby League anywhere near Halifax, Canada and also there is no link between Halifax, Canada and Halifax, UK, except they share the same name. I don't see what good it would achieve. Also they need to do this on a regular basis with a goal in mind and ideally work with the local Clubs (Which there are none) to build each year upon. The game has wasted so much money taking games on the road with no real purpose. This idea just follows that. Whats the actual purpose?

Blue Sox was the worst moniker in the game. It was another of Nigel Woods great ideas. Anybody know what a Blue Sox is and how to actually market something, nobody knows what it actualy is or means? Nigel Wood alienated a number of the Fax fanbase and Sponsors, many of which have never returned. The Club is in the state it is, largely due to the way Nigel Wood left the club. No amount of marketing and promotion is going to bring thousands of people in. Once a clubs reputation is in the gutter, especially over a few years as what happened at Halifax, its very very difficult to get that back. The Club has never had money to spend on large promotion and marketing anyway since the end of SL. How many times has the Club had to make Cuts?

It could have been worse Lizzie. Mr Woods cold have come up with the idea of calling the team the Halifax Blue Cox. That really woad have been a bad idea. 

[brooza]

They could try playing some games in Halifax, Queensland

[longboard]

4 hours ago, Tongs ya bas said:

We don't want these so called 'monikers'  in this great game of ours.

Halifax's marketing and promotion(no, not that promotion) has gone through the stratosphere since the ridiculous bluesox soubriquet and returned to a proper name: Halifax Rugby League Football Club: a merchandise manager's dream. It means that the scarves are longer as well.

There's a bit of a tale to be told about the merchandise at Halifax.

[BenGilesRL]

13 minutes ago, Lounge Room Lizard said:

That all you got? Great link to have a game there by Fax. Now bright spark what trade links or twin town links or something that would be of use for Fax to hold a home game in Canada?

Halifax is of course twinned with Aachen and there are groups that go over regularly. Least Halifax, UK and Aachen has something between the two areas. But there are no groups or anything between the Halifax´s

It's more than them just sharing a name so is factually contrary to the point they were making, and this wasn't my idea in the first place. The point of this topic was someone trying to find ways to get more exposure for the club. That doesn't mean they will all be perfect, but if you want to turn it into a, "how can we restrict any exposure ideas for the club and deride anyone that comes up with them" thread that's up to you.

[Lounge Room Lizard]

2 hours ago, Tongs ya bas said:

So how do they promote the Halifax Rugby League Football Club brand? Blue Sox, are blue socks. I didn't mind it myself. The club had some quality off the field people on board during its time in SL. Tony Fretwell for instance did a great job.

Very difficult to promote anything with no money. Throwing in a name that has no real links or meaning to most people is not going to do anything. You also have to sell it to the people and this was never done at all. It was more rammed in front of people with no consultation. Halifax RLFC is and always has been for over a Hundred years a known Brand in the area. Sadly the Club since the end of its term in SL has had a millstone around its neck in which it has  struggled with. 

Marketing is important but then so is building relationships within the Town. Something Fax have slowly started to do this. But in SL and for many years  after, the Club had a poor relationship with Siddal and the Amateur RL in the area. So bad they would refuse to talk to each other. The Club as said alienated many people including sponsors like Marshall for example by its attitudes at time.Fax have had some fine people involved off the field during its time in SL- Fretwell was one with the Youngsters as you say. But sadly the Club has also had people like Nigel Wood that for various reasons have pushed people away from the Club and the game. The results are why Fax are where they are.

[Lounge Room Lizard]

4 minutes ago, BenGilesRL said:

It's more than them just sharing a name so is factually contrary to the point they were making, and this wasn't my idea in the first place. The point of this topic was someone trying to find ways to get more exposure for the club. That doesn't mean they will all be perfect, but if you want to turn it into a, "how can we restrict any exposure ideas for the club and deride anyone that comes up with them" thread that's up to you.

The Club has to sort itself out locally. Such ideas as playing a game in Canada does Fax very little benefit especially for a Part time club run basically by volunteers with a couple of exceptions. Theres no direct Flights from the UK there  and there is nothing to suggest thousands of Toronto fans would make the Journey and there is nothing Rugby League wise in that part of Canada. I don't see what having a game would do unless Fax was going to make loads of money from the game in some way-which there is no evidence of. 

[JoneslessBishop]

I see no harm in Mr Perez hosting Halifax in Nova Scotia and London in London (Ontario) to grow visibility of the Wolfpack in Canada. Might not do a lot for the English teams, but could get some media interest in Canada and benefit his club

[Colly]

This thread is up there with the really bizarre ones

[BenGilesRL]

23 minutes ago, Lounge Room Lizard said:

The Club has to sort itself out locally. Such ideas as playing a game in Canada does Fax very little benefit especially for a Part time club run basically by volunteers with a couple of exceptions. Theres no direct Flights from the UK there  and there is nothing to suggest thousands of Toronto fans would make the Journey and there is nothing Rugby League wise in that part of Canada. I don't see what having a game would do unless Fax was going to make loads of money from the game in some way-which there is no evidence of. 

Maybe they could get sponsored by Halifax or Nova Scotia tourist board like Wigan have? 

[ojx]

1 hour ago, Colly said:

This thread is up there with the really bizarre ones

Halifax NS is much larger than Halifax UK, but it does not have much of a sporting culture. Also, they don't have a stadium, although one is being mooted for a soccer team. It doesn't have direct flights to the M62. I think that there would be several Canadian cities in line for a team before them: Montreal, Hamilton, Ottawa, Quebec City to name a few.

[Manx RL]

7 hours ago, Desert Skipper said:

Is there anywhere that Wigan could take their home games to, or is there only one Wigan on this planet?

http://www.maplandia.com/canada/yukon-territory/yukon/wigan/

 

 

[ojx]

8 minutes ago, Manx RL said:

http://www.maplandia.com/canada/yukon-territory/yukon/wigan/

Perhaps a pre-season game in January?

[Desert Skipper]

45 minutes ago, Manx RL said:

http://www.maplandia.com/canada/yukon-territory/yukon/wigan/

 

 

Thank you for doing the work I couldn’t be bothered to do!

[Gav Wilson]

3 hours ago, Colly said:

This thread is up there with the really bizarre ones

This is nothing compared to the crows...

[longboard]

1 hour ago, ojx said:

Perhaps a pre-season game in January?

I'd say that I'll be a chilled out occasion.

[Old Frightful]

7 hours ago, southstand loiner said:

there's bound to be a Bradford or hull maybe over there as well

Already looking forward to our local derby with Toronto...

[Maximus Decimus]

11 hours ago, Tongs ya bas said:

Their attendances suggest that they aren't that great at taking their home matches to Halifax England. 

No doubt this is because the system is so unfair

Yeh, let's all laugh at once great RL clubs because they're down on their luck.

Patronising git.

[Tongs ya bas]

11 hours ago, Maximus Decimus said:

Yeh, let's all laugh at once great RL clubs because they're down on their luck.

Patronising git.

Or

Maybe not take ourselves too seriously.

For the record Halifax are still a great club.

[Tongs ya bas]

5 hours ago, longboard said:

It could have been worse Lizzie. Mr Woods cold have come up with the idea of calling the team the Halifax Blue Cox. That really woad have been a bad idea. 

That actually happened well almost in a misprint in the Halifax programme during this period.

In his column, Gary Mercer spoke of the team having to pull their socks up. Go figure.

The academy team were given felt tips and set to censoring the offending typo.

[longboard]

30 minutes ago, Tongs ya bas said:

That actually happened well almost in a misprint in the Halifax programme during this period.

In his column, Gary Mercer spoke of the team having to pull their socks up. Go figure.

The academy team were given felt tips and set to censoring the offending typo.

Such a blue mistake woad have led to some red faces.

[Tongs ya bas]

16 minutes ago, longboard said:

Such a blue mistake woad have led to some red faces.

Halifax in their bluesox years had a great deal going for them. Some really good backroom staff headed up by the superb Chris Murgatroyd, and a fine but thinly spread squad. They were underfunded and under supported. That part of Yorkshire could have and should have been the home to a powerful super league club. As ever there was no single reason why that didn't happen. 

[Manx RL]

47 minutes ago, Tongs ya bas said:

Halifax in their bluesox years had a great deal going for them. Some really good backroom staff headed up by the superb Chris Murgatroyd, and a fine but thinly spread squad. They were underfunded and under supported. That part of Yorkshire could have and should have been the home to a powerful super league club. As ever there was no single reason why that didn't happen. 

Was that when Nigel Wood was chief exec? 

[Tongs ya bas]

10 minutes ago, Manx RL said:

Was that when Nigel Wood was chief exec? 

Yes

[Roughyedz]

Id just love Oldham to actually play in "OLDHAM" ............. Lancashire England, but its unlikely to happen EVER again