stevevalerugby Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 WALES' 24-MAN SQUAD FOR RLWC2017: Courtney Davies, Steve Parry (both Gloucestershire All Golds), Chester Butler (Halifax), Danny Ansell (Hunslet), Sam Hopkins (Leigh Centurions), Michael Channing, Ben Evans, Dalton Grant, Elliot Kear, Rhys Williams (all London Broncos), Matty Barron (Newcastle Thunder), Joe Burke (Oldham), Gavin Bennion (Rochdale Hornets), Craig Kopczak (Salford Red Devils), Matty Fozard (Sheffield Eagles), Andrew Gay, Christiaan Roets (both South Wales Ironmen), Regan Grace, Morgan Knowles, Ben Morris (all St Helens), Rhodri Lloyd (Swinton Lions), Josh Ralph (Tweed Head Seagulls), Phil Joseph (Workington Town), Matty Seamark (Wynnum Manly Seagulls) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Have fun in PNG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Some local PNG action to get the Welsh guys nervous https://youtu.be/F-txWfBvC-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnyason Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Hmm seems injures have gotten to them. A shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage XIII Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Can someone point out those Welsh born please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Heritage XIII said: Can someone point out those Welsh born please? Are you keeping records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage XIII Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Copa said: Are you keeping records? No, just interested in how many are Welsh born as Wales seem to have been going great guns with local development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevevalerugby Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 9 Players born in Wales , 1 qualify's as Mother is welsh 1 qualify's as Father is welsh others then through Grandparents or residency if yo click on names in squad at top it gives details of players careers and places of birth and eligibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoneslessBishop Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Interesting, as Wales are a country you would expect to have more non-heritage players. Obviously the numbers are adversely impacted by the likes of R Evans, Flower, Dudson and White being unavailable. Big losses. I am am not a zealout about heritage. I would much prefer to see a strong World Cup where Samoa, Tonga, etc can give the Big 3 a run for their money. But a failure of the Welsh squad at the World Cup might get some heritage zealots steamed up. However a beating for this Wales squad by PNG will very much be a victory for indigenous development, albeit only 1 that PNG or France could probably pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 There's a few in the squad who represented their country at under-16 and under-18 level, I suspect relatively few other WC teams can say the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Wales will again struggle. Rhys Evans, Flower, Dudson and White are huge losses to add to Frizzell's absence. However, you've got to applaud Kear/Wales RL for their stance as I'm sure they could have found a handful of higher ranked players to represent the country. However, Kear has always stressed loyalty to the guys who have come through qualification and made themselves available for the less glamorous games/competitions. But, good luck to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I think it is excellent so many Welsh born. It's a shame some big guns can't go. They will give it their all but this is a tough tournament. They will learn a lot and what an opportunity to be part of the WC. My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogledd Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 13 players from the 17 who beat Italy in Monza last year are in the squad - John Kear is sticking with those loyal to the squad where he could have chosen other 'higher' ranked players. Those selected will give their all. A real shame there is a huge list of injured and unavailable - we will miss Dudson, White, Evans et al . - but a chance for those selected to ensure we are competitive . Wales have not won a World Cup game since 2000 - but Kohn Kears teams have won the last 6 games. Time to start winning World Cup games again. There is good spirit in the team and as the coach says "There's no reason Wales cannot progress poat the Pool stages". It will be tough, but I am hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlno1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 With Wales doing an excellent job with development would anyone know how many Welsh born players were in the 2000 and 2013 squads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogledd Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, rlno1 said: With Wales doing an excellent job with development would anyone know how many Welsh born players were in the 2000 and 2013 squads? I think all the info you need is on the Wales Rugby League website... if not contact the WRL media manager; he has all the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonrlfan Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Good to see we're doing our bit to help the Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevevalerugby Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, rlno1 said: With Wales doing an excellent job with development would anyone know how many Welsh born players were in the 2000 and 2013 squads? 2000 welsh squad had 2 Welsh born players ex union internationals Devereux and Moriarty. Plus 5 players who had played for England as well. so really no home grown RL Players as both Devereux and Moriarty plied their trade up North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevevalerugby Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 2013 squad had 8 Welsh born players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Has Rhys Evans ever actually played for Wales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlno1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, stevevalerugby said: 2013 squad had 8 Welsh born players So from 2 in 2000, to 8 in 2013 and 9 in 2017 which probably would have been 14 or 15 but for injuries, shows just how well the game is developing in Wales. Can we expect come 2025 a fully born Welsh team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 56 minutes ago, deluded pom? said: Has Rhys Evans ever actually played for Wales? RLWC13 - had a stormer in Cardiff then poor in the other games. Never reached his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 50 minutes ago, rlno1 said: Can we expect come 2025 a fully born Welsh team? Why should they? Other sports' Welsh national teams don't, nor do most RL nations. So why should Welsh RL seek to sacrifice themselves on the altar of national purity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 49 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said: RLWC13 - had a stormer in Cardiff then poor in the other games. Never reached his potential. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Good luck to them! I can't see nothing but wallopings for them sadly. Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh lion Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 They’ll beat Ireland and give the other two a game, Kear has built a good team spirit and they have some decent players who are used to playing together. As has been said though the loss of White and Dudson in particular are huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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