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1 minute ago, winnyason said:

There some niggle there. 1970s grand finals and as rabbit rhino noted we pinched alot of there best.

Thats a good spot for state of origin or test match Las vegas 

I can’t believe you said that about Vegas.  I’ve said the same thing.  You know what my idea would be?  Winners of SL vs NRL in Vegas.  Rugby League World Champs.  It will still be warm and booze is 24/7 and it can be drunken cheaply.   All night party.  

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4 minutes ago, The Manc Yank said:

I can’t believe you said that about Vegas.  I’ve said the same thing.  You know what my idea would be?  Winners of SL vs NRL in Vegas.  Rugby League World Champs.  It will still be warm and booze is 24/7 and it can be drunken cheaply.   All night party.  

Yeah from an nfl perspective i be a little concerned about the raiders players ongoings there. 

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So I believe wood back from New York, this on top of Hamilton, Boston. Also we have red star belgrade and even Avignon wanting to join rfl.

john Paul basile ex nba exec involved in Moore sport has said he wants USA pro league by 2020. Now we have already Toronto, New York, Hamilton, Boston now in reality it’s only 2 franchise off there own pro league. I say Jacksonville and philly is very possible. 

I really believe long term North America needs there own semi pro or lower tier pro league. 

 

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3 hours ago, winnyason said:

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I really believe long term North America needs there own semi pro or lower tier pro league. 

 

Why?  Is that going to be a big thing in the 1970's?

Is it something for which sponsors and media will be keen to throw money at?

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17 hours ago, ojx said:

And then the Americans kicked the British out because of their small minded and backwards policies. 

Slavery was so in vogue at the time, it was worth fighting for

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2 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

Why?  Is that going to be a big thing in the 1970's?

Is it something for which sponsors and media will be keen to throw money at?

Not sure the underlining hostility and vibe i am getting is its possible rfl clibs wont vote in favour of new york, boston and Hamilton. 

The carry on from the doctor towards rowley and then beaumont about premier sports. I really feel uk clubs at lower tier ( championship and league 1) dont want them here. 

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The one thing people need to remember and not lose sight of is that these people talking about running franchises and leagues in North America are not fans of the game like you and I but businessmen and at the end of the day these businessmen will want to see a return otherwise they wouldn’t be businessmen. Or not very good businessmen.

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Just now, walter sobchak said:

The one thing people need to remember and not lose sight of is that these people talking about running franchises and leagues in North America are not fans of the game like you and I but businessmen and at the end of the day these businessmen will want to see a return otherwise they wouldn’t be businessmen. Or not very good businessmen.

 

And that is no bad thing. Rugby League is full of middle-aged local salesmen done ok looking for something to do as they get older. There is a distinct lack of people involved because they see potential and room for growth and want to push the game forward. Too many fans and hobbyists and too few professionals.

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40 minutes ago, winnyason said:

Not sure the underlining hostility and vibe i am getting is its possible rfl clibs wont vote in favour of new york, boston and Hamilton. 

The carry on from the doctor towards rowley and then beaumont about premier sports. I really feel uk clubs at lower tier ( championship and league 1) dont want them here. 

It is not hostility.  It is bewilderment.

The 1970's were a time when local entertainment had a better chance, but "let's see semi-pro's play an alien sport" is not going to get people excited or generate commercial interest.  Soccer is the only sport in the UK that has a properous second flight.

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1 hour ago, scotchy1 said:

And that is no bad thing. Rugby League is full of middle-aged local salesmen done ok looking for something to do as they get older. There is a distinct lack of people involved because they see potential and room for growth and want to push the game forward. Too many fans and hobbyists and too few professionals.

All sports are full of middle aged local salesmen done OK looking for something to do as they get older , its just in other sports they are richer

Are Man Citys owners going to get a return on their investement ? , why did they pick Man City ?

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Just now, GUBRATS said:

All sports are full of middle aged local salesmen done OK looking for something to do as they get older , its just in other sports they are richer

Are Man Citys owners going to get a return on their investement ? , why did they pick Man City ?

Yes they are looking to get a return. Premier League clubs can't be run as a hobby anymore, its doesnt work. Thats why City Football group is run by Ferran Soriano, a career professional.

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4 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

Yes they are looking to get a return. Premier League clubs can't be run as a hobby anymore, its doesnt work. Thats why City Football group is run by Ferran Soriano, a career professional.

Yes.

It would be stupid if the RFL were to turn down an offer of help or a set-up like that running a club in the UK. 

We will have to accept that will not happen.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

Yes.

It would be stupid if the RFL were to turn down an offer of help or a set-up like that running a club in the UK. 

We will have to accept that will not happen.

 

Im not suggesting anything like what is happening at City will happen in RL. Simply that it is professionals that will move the game forward, not local businessmen looking for a bit of fun and maybe a big day out. 

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3 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

Yes.

It would be stupid if the RFL were to turn down an offer of help or a set-up like that running a club in the UK.

We will have to accept that will not happen.

 

Man City are a rich oil Sheiks family hobby , nothing more , similar to most proffessional sports clubs , just on a much higher level , they will never break even

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4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Man City are a rich oil Sheiks family hobby , nothing more , similar to most proffessional sports clubs , just on a much higher level , they will never break even

Never? They have made a profit for the last three years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-record-revenues-third-year-profit-financial-results-a8044071.html

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4 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

All sports are full of middle aged local salesmen done OK looking for something to do as they get older , its just in other sports they are richer

Are Man Citys owners going to get a return on their investement ? , why did they pick Man City ?

If 5 or 10 years down the line they sell the club for a much higher price than they paid, that would be a big return for them.  As long as the value of Premier League clubs keeps rising, they only have to break even until they sell to make a handsome return.

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44 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

If 5 or 10 years down the line they sell the club for a much higher price than they paid, that would be a big return for them.  As long as the value of Premier League clubs keeps rising, they only have to break even until they sell to make a handsome return.

Except that wont happen , their primary portfolio of sponsors are all essentially connected to the owners family , all to get round FIFA s fair play rules , you know it I know it and so does Scotchy

Not going to discuss this further  

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16 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Except that wont happen , their primary portfolio of sponsors are all essentially connected to the owners family , all to get round FIFA s fair play rules , you know it I know it and so does Scotchy

Not going to discuss this further  

Because you have been conclusively proven wrong.

Sport isnt a hobby anymore. It hasnt been for years. Most people, especially at the top of sports are in it to make money, and many do. 18 of the 20 Premier League clubs in 2015/2016 the last full accounting period made an operating profit, revenue grew 10%. Most years now the Premier League clubs, as whole, make a combined profit, that is more money being made than lost.

The days of top-flight sport being a bit of fun for the local double glazing company are over and have been for years.

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12 hours ago, The Manc Yank said:

I can’t believe you said that about Vegas.  I’ve said the same thing.  You know what my idea would be?  Winners of SL vs NRL in Vegas.  Rugby League World Champs.  It will still be warm and booze is 24/7 and it can be drunken cheaply.   All night party.  

The new Raiders NFL stadium in Vegas will be a great spot for RL. Loads of cheap flights and accommodations for fans from Aus & England plus a pretty big Polynesian community locally. Lots of people from Hawaii move there as houses are about 1/3 the price for comparable space.

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1 minute ago, westside said:

The new Raiders NFL stadium in Vegas will be a great spot for RL. Loads of cheap flights and accommodations for fans from Aus & England plus a pretty big Polynesian community locally. Lots of people from Hawaii move there as houses are about 1/3 the price for comparable space.

If not the WCC, Las Vegas is set up perfectly for the 9s world cup.

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3 hours ago, ojx said:

Interesting article about the challenges facing the NY bid from a local in the city:

http://www.rugbyleaguehub.com/2017/10/25/opinion-a-new-yorker-assesses-rugby-leagues-chances-in-the-big-apple/

I agree that a suburban stadium would be a disaster. It has to be in the city of NY. Red Bull Arena would be a nightmare.

Thanks for the share! Great article.  I used to work for the LA Galaxy for 4 years and I’m and avid MLS fan.  My biggest fear was the League putting a team at Red Bull arena.  That would be horrible.  He’s exactly right.  I need to write one now on why it will succeed in the US at least.  

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2 hours ago, The Manc Yank said:

Thanks for the share! Great article.  I used to work for the LA Galaxy for 4 years and I’m and avid MLS fan.  My biggest fear was the League putting a team at Red Bull arena.  That would be horrible.  He’s exactly right.  I need to write one now on why it will succeed in the US at least.  

But what stadiums are available in New York itself? 

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5 hours ago, The Manc Yank said:

Thanks for the share! Great article.  I used to work for the LA Galaxy for 4 years and I’m and avid MLS fan.  

Are you David Beckham?

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