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"NRL and RLPA send scathing letter to organisers of Denver Test"

"The NRL and the players’ union have ..... outlining concerns about the impact it could have on players' safety".
 

There is s huge difference between 'scathing' and 'outlining concerns'. This is a click bait headline which is confirmed by the heavily toned down article itself. A very common tactic from the media. 

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Why are the NRL and RLPA sending one letter?

Aren't they independent of each other? The scumbags.

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The RFL should be asking the RLPA if they have consulted with the players who are likely to be playing in this test as they are there to represent the players and every single report of the players opinions I have seen is that they want to play in this test.

If the RLPA has not consulted, which seems to be the case, then the RFL should inform the RLPA they will respond to any letter when the affected players have been consulted and their views taken into account.

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Well RLPA director Adam Blair seems positive about the game

“Everything looks like it’s falling into place and I’m excited not only for the international game, but for NZRL, as this is a great opportunity to showcase our game in America.”

http://www.totalrl.com/new-zealand-rugby-league-confirms-plans-on-track-for-denver-test/

Perhaps they should get their stories straight as an organisation?

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5 hours ago, DoubleD said:

Well RLPA director Adam Blair seems positive about the game

“Everything looks like it’s falling into place and I’m excited not only for the international game, but for NZRL, as this is a great opportunity to showcase our game in America.”

http://www.totalrl.com/new-zealand-rugby-league-confirms-plans-on-track-for-denver-test/

Perhaps they should get their stories straight as an organisation?

Well well, looks like the "yeah but...." list of excuses from the RLPA and the NRL have finally run dry. Blair could have phoned the NZ doctor any time over the last few months to get his opinion before spouting off with his RLPA hat on.

 

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3 minutes ago, Scubby said:

Well well, looks like the "yeah but...." list of excuses from the RLPA and the NRL have finally run dry. Blair could have phoned the NZ doctor any time over the last few months to get his opinion before spouting off with his RLPA hat on.

 

Has Blair said owt previously on this?

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23 hours ago, Dave T said:

Why are the NRL and RLPA sending one letter?

Aren't they independent of each other? The scumbags.

Im still utterly lost at how a union is representing its members by allying with the clubs behind the idea that the clubs will cancel players contracts without compensation if the players are injured.

It is crazy. Surely when the clubs brought this to their union their answer should have been, no you will honour those contracts or we dont play for YOU!

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13 hours ago, scotchy1 said:

Im still utterly lost at how a union is representing its members by allying with the clubs behind the idea that the clubs will cancel players contracts without compensation if the players are injured.

It is crazy. Surely when the clubs brought this to their union their answer should have been, no you will honour those contracts or we dont play for YOU!

I believe the RLPA gets the bulk of its funding from the NRL - something like $100,000 per team towards the RLPA's admin costs. The RLPA also runs the NRL-funded player retirement fund.

That might have something to do with it.

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Going to be a tough game, NZ warriors winning 5 in a row, a lot of those guys in form to take into the test. England will have to be on their game. 

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53 minutes ago, nadera78 said:

I believe the RLPA gets the bulk of its funding from the NRL - something like $100,000 per team towards the RLPA's admin costs. The RLPA also runs the NRL-funded player retirement fund.

That might have something to do with it.

Not really a union then. We can all safely ignore them.

The players should have a union though, there should be a proper, real, global pro union

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4 hours ago, nadera78 said:

I believe the RLPA gets the bulk of its funding from the NRL - something like $100,000 per team towards the RLPA's admin costs. The RLPA also runs the NRL-funded player retirement fund.

That might have something to do with it.

Whoever pays the piper calls the tune. 

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It’s funny to see how scared nrl is of losing control of game. Watching nrl show 100 percent footy Gallen was like a dear in headlights about how Pacific Islander players are choosing nrl overhyped origin. Phil Gould stated origin no longer considered best of best with so many other players opting for test side over origin. 

The Denver Test the same nrl, rlpa and clubs are powerless players are within there rights to play in match. The World Cup opened up players eyes to the brainwashing origin has been. 

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8 hours ago, winnyason said:

It’s funny to see how scared nrl is of losing control of game. Watching nrl show 100 percent footy Gallen was like a dear in headlights about how Pacific Islander players are choosing nrl overhyped origin. Phil Gould stated origin no longer considered best of best with so many other players opting for test side over origin. 

The Denver Test the same nrl, rlpa and clubs are powerless players are within there rights to play in match. The World Cup opened up players eyes to the brainwashing origin has been. 

I think we saw a glimpse of what top level representative RL could actually be like with the Kiwi games versus Samoa, Tonga and Fiji, and that WC semi between England and Tonga, plus the WC Final.

Id pick that 10 times out of 10 over Origin and I think if we keep putting on shows like that then those audiences will grow.

I dont know whybthe Aussies are afraid of that - instead of only Origin being huge we could have massive audiences for internationals too if developed correctly.

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

I think we saw a glimpse of what top level representative RL could actually be like with the Kiwi games versus Samoa, Tonga and Fiji, and that WC semi between England and Tonga, plus the WC Final.

Id pick that 10 times out of 10 over Origin and I think if we keep putting on shows like that then those audiences will grow.

I dont know whybthe Aussies are afraid of that - instead of only Origin being huge we could have massive audiences for internationals too if developed correctly.

I suspect one reason is because they wont be in control of the $$ made from internationals like they are with SoO

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20 minutes ago, philipw said:

I suspect one reason is because they wont be in control of the $$ made from internationals like they are with SoO

It’s all about control; money, players and influence. Many of the power brokers in both hemispheres are resistant to change as they think they’ll lose influence. Pretty pathetic and insular isn’t it...

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1 hour ago, GeordieSaint said:

It’s all about control; money, players and influence. Many of the power brokers in both hemispheres are resistant to change as they think they’ll lose influence. Pretty pathetic and insular isn’t it...

Yes, but surprisingly unsurprising....

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Some of those reaction videos are fun - check out Americans' reactions to Shaun Johnson or Jason Taumalolo.

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21 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Some of those reaction videos are fun - check out Americans' reactions to Shaun Johnson or Jason Taumalolo.

Notice how all of the highlights in that video are from matches played on fields marked with gridiron-style equidistant solid numbered lines.  The 2021 World Cup needs to have those same markings to help the gridiron fans being targetted get into the game.

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1 hour ago, Big Picture said:

Notice how all of the highlights in that video are from matches played on fields marked with gridiron-style equidistant solid numbered lines.  The 2021 World Cup needs to have those same markings to help the gridiron fans being targetted get into the game.

It really doesn’t. 

We need to use big stadiums, conditions of that is simple markings on the pitches as they are used for other sports

The NRL have primary use of stadiums so can put all the markings on that they like. We don’t have that luxury over here

Its much more inmportant to get 1M through the gates than have numbered lines

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10 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It really doesn’t. 

We need to use big stadiums, conditions of that is simple markings on the pitches as they are used for other sports

The NRL have primary use of stadiums so can put all the markings on that they like. We don’t have that luxury over here

Its much more inmportant to get 1M through the gates than have numbered lines

If you want RL to be perceived by outsiders/newcomers as a small-time, poor relation sport not really worth their time or money, then consistent field markings aren't important.  Big-time major sports however always have consistent field markings wherever in the world they are played.  That's part and parcel of being a big-time major sport, so for RL to shed the image of being a small-time, poor relation sport it needs to have one consistent standard for field markings world wide just like the real major sports do, and do away with the amateurish Mickey-Mouse approach of letting different governing bodies make do with less than that.

I agree that getting 1 million attendance for the tournament is important, so the game needs to come up with a protocol for having those standard markings in venues which might not quite be able to accommodate a full 100-metre length field of play.

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3 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

If you want RL to be perceived by outsiders/newcomers as a small-time, poor relation sport not really worth their time or money, then consistent field markings aren't important.  Big-time major sports however always have consistent field markings wherever in the world they are played.  That's part and parcel of being a big-time major sport, so for RL to shed the image of being a small-time, poor relation sport it needs to have one consistent standard for field markings world wide just like the real major sports do, and do away with the amateurish Mickey-Mouse approach of letting different governing bodies make do with less than that.

Really? Association football (the worlds biggest sport?) pitches do not even have to be of a standardised size, just within certain dimensions

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3 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

If you want RL to be perceived by outsiders/newcomers as a small-time, poor relation sport not really worth their time or money, then consistent field markings aren't important.  Big-time major sports however always have consistent field markings wherever in the world they are played.  That's part and parcel of being a big-time major sport, so for RL to shed the image of being a small-time, poor relation sport it needs to have one consistent standard for field markings world wide just like the real major sports do, and do away with the amateurish Mickey-Mouse approach of letting different governing bodies make do with less than that.

You’re avoiding the point about big stadiums. RL doesn’t have any, so simple question. Would you like the games played at grounds with the markings you suggest, but only deliver 500k paying punters?

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1 minute ago, philipw said:

Really? Association football (the worlds biggest sport?) pitches do not even have to be of a standardised size, just within certain dimensions

Their fields do have to be marked out in one standard way though, even when they vary.  Ditto ice hockey, basketball, handball, baseball, cricket, lacrosse, rugby union ...

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