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1 hour ago, Big Pops said:

How glorious is to see the Aussies fall in the only sport that has given them success on the world stage and protected them from feeling like failures

Harsh. They haven't lost an AFL international to Ireland since 2013 you know.

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I'd like to thank the Australian team for ensuring that England's first innings wasn't the biggest embarrassment of last week.

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Happy to laugh at the Aussies but this is an absolute disaster for Test cricket.

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@dannykellywords
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Poor old Tim Paine.

Record as Australian Cricket captain...

Tests: one quarter.

Defeats: 1

Loss percentage: 400% 

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Interesting comment from Stuart Broad in England press conference about Australia having "changed their method" with the ball swinging in the Ashes for their bowlers when you would least expect it...

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Steve Smith is a cocky little bar steward who clearly thought he could get away with this. With David Warner in the "leadership group" as well you're not going to get much of a voice of reason.

There will be many, many Australians who believe in playing hard, but playing fair, who will be appalled by this. If England had done it I would have hoped that the captain wuld be sacked and for the offending player to be dropped for at least a series. It was bad enough when we laughed off the Atherton "soil in the pocket" episode.

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I genuinely don't think they understood the implications and possible reaction when they 'fessed' up at the new conference.

(side point, its a big story but not lead item on the BBC big...)

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Estimates that this incident could cost Cricket Australia $50 million/year in reduced TV deal. Individuals stand to lose another couple of mill on sponsorships.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-26/cricket-australia-smith-warner-face-high-price-ball-tampering/9588038

11 hours ago, tim2 said:

 

There will be many, many Australians who believe in playing hard, but playing fair, who will be appalled by this. If England had done it I would have hoped that the captain wuld be sacked and for the offending player to be dropped for at least a series. It was bad enough when we laughed off the Atherton "soil in the pocket" episode.

Absolutely. If I was capable of experiencing human emotions I would be embarrassed to go on any sport forum for the next 10 years. And it was all so dumb and unnecessary. We expect to get beaten regularly by South Africa. It doesn't matter. We know that these are usually some of our toughest series.

Back when OZ cricket had its last Golden Era (Warne, Gilchrist, Hayden, et al) the crowds started to drop off because we won too much. Despite the popular image of OZ sport fans, many of us would rather watch contests which go right to the last play and end with the tiniest margins, regardless of the result. We can't have national sporting representatives who don't understand this.

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The plot thickens. Warner (surprise, surprise) looks like the main culprit in getting Bancroft to do the deed while Smith looked the other way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43543713

If this is true Warner should be gone for a long time (preferably forever), Bancroft given a decent rap on the knuckles and Smith stripped of the captaincy. Not sure where it leaves Lehmann. The fact that he apparantly didn't know is a bit of an indictment on him as a coach, although less than if he did know.

Update (Weds 28th) - Smith&Warner banned for a year, Bancroft for 9 months. Will cost the first two a shed load of money by missing the IPL.  It was also revealed that Smith lied at a press conference about what was used.

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14 hours ago, tim2 said:

Update (Weds 28th) - Smith&Warner banned for a year, Bancroft for 9 months. Will cost the first two a shed load of money by missing the IPL.  It was also revealed that Smith lied at a press conference about what was used.

They won't miss the IPL. They're just banned from playing for OZ. What will hurt them is the loss of sponsorships.

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23 minutes ago, Farmduck said:

They won't miss the IPL. They're just banned from playing for OZ. What will hurt them is the loss of sponsorships.

They will - the IPL has banned them.

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On 3/25/2018 at 10:25 PM, JonM said:

Harsh. They haven't lost an AFL international to Ireland since 2013 you know.

They have never played a AFL international.

The game they play against the Irish Gaelic footballers is a fusion of Gaelic football and AFL.

AFL itself is a fusion between Gaelic football and 19th century Rugby (before the 1895 split) and its played on Cricket ovals. Even some Australians refer to as the Anglo-Irish game due to its origins

 

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2 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

They have never played a AFL international.

The game they play against the Irish Gaelic footballers is a fusion of Gaelic football and AFL.

AFL itself is a fusion between Gaelic football and 19th century Rugby (before the 1895 split) and its played on Cricket ovals. Even some Australians refer to as the Anglo-Irish game due to its origins

This is a rare example of modesty.  A legacy of cultural cringe.

AFL, or rather codified Victorian football appears to predate either codifed soccer, rugby or gaelic football.  Gaelic football is rather modern and seems a contrivance of C19th nationalism.

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17 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

So it was sandpaper not tape?

Wonder if Warners hand strapping had any additional abrasive areas?

The Cricket Australia charge against the three players says sandpaper. Michael Vaughan says that he thinks this means Lehmann didn't know about it, because he says there's no way Lehmann would have agreed to that.

Looks like they've been doing it for a while and that before this match, it was Warner who was in charge of doing stuff to the ball and they only switched to Bancroft because they knew the SA cameramen were going to be watching Warner.

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I’m so out of touch with cricket I’d never heard of these Australian players until this scandal. I’d not recognise them in the street either.

 

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It is great to see Warner get his comeuppance, he has one of those faces you'd never get tired of punching.

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On 24/03/2018 at 5:44 PM, JonM said:

Aussies cheating. 

Is anyone actually surprised by this? All the tears are maybe becuase they got caught.

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5 hours ago, Derwent said:

It is great to see Warner get his comeuppance, he has one of those faces you'd never get tired of punching.

He ticks every single box in the unpleasantness questionnaire, doesn't he?

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Here's a joke that all the teenagers will get...

Q: What do you call someone with an abrasive surface concealed in his trousers?

A: Dick Emery!

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Aussie crocodile tears on the news. It wasn’t an “error of judgement” it was a deliberate, cynical, calculated choice to cheat. They deserve everything that’s thrown at them.

The worst acting I’ve ever seen with those tears and Warner carrying his daughter through the press scrum as if he didn’t know they’d be there, appalling.

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