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Great article in today's Globe and Mail about Nobby. Following on from a piece on Ashton Sims also in G&M.

Press is taking notice!!

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I saw that the Jays sent out a tweet for their 2M+ followers to see just recently

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Wow, that is huge publicity. 

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Nice one: Toronto Blue Jays tweet out congratulations to the Wolfpack for winning the Championship, reaching potentially 2 million followers.

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17 hours ago, Loup said:

Nice one: Toronto Blue Jays tweet out congratulations to the Wolfpack for winning the Championship, reaching potentially 2 million followers.

I also saw that Rugby United Canada tweeted their congratulations too. 

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Toronto Maple Leafs "boost the Wolfpack signal" to 1.85 million followers.

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Yeah we now had the Jays, Raptors, Leafs and Argos all use social media to congratulate us and get us onto peoples radar for a minute at least to acknowledge that there's a Rugby team in town. TFC are the only ones that haven't so far.

3M people at the minimum have at least been told that we exist and are winning which is a great thing in fans eyes.

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TFC - soccer folks are distracted at the moment...when it's all over in PutinLand they'll wake up and find out what a real Championship team looks like....!!!

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From Toronto Sun. Is it getting too busy in Toronto sports scene?

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Will the Argos start hating TWP?

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Just now, manu266 said:

From Toronto Sun. Is it getting too busy in Toronto sports scene?

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Will the Argos start hating TWP?

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Argo fans are mystified by the Wolfpack but we need to downplay it....the Argos are always looking for a scapegaot and we are not it.   The problem for the Argos is that Toronto is not playing at the top level (NFL), amongst other problems.

The funniest thing is that at the 3 Brewers before a few of the Wolfpack games that conflict with the Argos.   Many decked out Argo fans there looking at the Wolfpack fans with envy.  Our demographic is one they crave....good looking women and well behaved kids...families!  This is our edge and we need to keep it as our main focus.  We are putting on a full game day family experience....they a football game for middle and old aged men.

Their problems with fields etc. is because they are part of a megasports conglomerate...call their own head office...not the Wolfpack!

When you talk to the Argo fans they are very interested in the Wolfpack....some want to come to the games....they are threatened and jealous.  We are on the up, they on the down.

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11 minutes ago, NickWeaver said:

Does anyone get league Weekly apparently there is an articlein it about Toronto.

The article just said that there was a "secret" meeting between Elstone and Martin Vickers to get clarifications over commercial arrangements and minimum standards.  The rest of the article was re-quoting Hudgell's older interview, "integrity of the competition" blah blah.

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34 minutes ago, ojx said:

The article just said that there was a "secret" meeting between Elstone and Martin Vickers to get clarifications over commercial arrangements and minimum standards.  The rest of the article was re-quoting Hudgell's older interview, "integrity of the competition" blah blah.

We've scared the ###### right out of them...none thought we could move so fast in all different directions with such stealth....its like the Blitzkreig.....don't they know they are dealing with a well organized Wolpack in its prime....look around we are here!

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2 hours ago, manu266 said:

From Toronto Sun. Is it getting too busy in Toronto sports scene?

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Will the Argos start hating TWP?

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Argo fans are generally older men and older couples. They weren't pulling big crowds before Wolfpack started and BMO Field is less than half full when they play.

Raptors are the most popular team among the younger fans, Toronto FC is a mix although the fans who were there from the start are now in their 30s and 40s. Wolfpack's fan base includes a lot of younger fans, men and women, and families.

Suggesting the sports scene is "too crowded" is just silly journalism. No one would suggest the live music scene is too crowded or the restaurant scene is too crowded. Close to 6 million people live in & around Toronto, you don't have to appeal to all of them to have a successful sports club.

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Sims just wrapping up his live appearance on CTV's The Social.  He did really well and is well spoken but Hey, get that guy some anti perspirant....it was funny watching him surrounded by those four vampiresses done up like rose petals....don't lift your arm the producer is telling him in his ear mike...wear a dark shirt next time!!!!

That Sims...what a nice character.  This was very funny to watch...poor guy.

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Talk of Test in New York as NRL eyes North America

 

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A RUGBY league turf war could ignite in North America if the Kangaroos’ proposed Test against Tonga is played in New York in October, according to Reni Maitua.

The former Canterbury star is now a welfare officer at the Toronto Wolfpack, the team at the heart of England’s expansion into North America who could be promoted to the Super League as soon as the start of next year.

Details of a potential maiden Test between Tonga and Australia are yet to be locked in, but reports surfaced last week suggesting the 25,000seat Red Bull Arena in New York was one option to host the fixture, as well as venues in Brisbane, Sydney and New Zealand.

The New York option would see the Test take place on October 20 at the home of Major League Soccer’s New York Red Bulls, and would come four months after the success of the Denver Test between England and New Zealand.

But Maitua said the prospect of the match is just the NRL’s attempt to keep pace with English rugby league expansion in the region ahead of the 2025 World Cup.

“It’s the NRL trying to compete with (England’s) Rugby Football League and Super League for expansion in North America,” he said.

Maitua believed the NRL is wary of the Wolfpack’s footprint in sports-mad Toronto, regularly nearing capacity crowds at their 9600-seat suburban stadium despite little exposure to rugby league.

The team will land themselves in the English Super League next year if they progress through the qualifiers after winning this year’s second-tier championship.

While the Super League may have its claws in Canada, Maitua suggested the US beckons the NRL. “After the success of the Wolfpack in such a short period, the NRL would be mad not to expose rugby league on this side of the pond (in North America),” he said.

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Wolfpack's bid to develop local talent frustrated by rugby league's roster rules

Davidson, Neil. The Globe and Mail; Toronto, Ont. [Toronto, Ont]25 July 2018: B.18.
 

The Toronto Wolfpack have made it past more than a few obstacles in their climb up the rugby-league ladder.

But the transatlantic team continues to run into roadblocks in developing North American talent because of rugby league's extensive red tape.

To date, Quinn Ngawati is the only Canadian-born player to see action with the Wolfpack. The 19year-old from Victoria played in two games last year in the club's inaugural season in the third tier of English rugby league. He will make his third appearance on Saturday when Toronto (20-1-1) plays host to Featherstone Rovers (15-8-0) in the regular-season finale for both clubs in the second-tier Betfred Championship.

The Wolfpack have found themselves in a Catch-22 situation. Because rugby league is not a sport native to North America, finding local talent is difficult enough to start with. Finding a place to refine the raw talent it does discover is even more difficult given rugby league's complicated roster rules.

Ngawati's Canadian passport means he is not considered an import or quota player for Toronto.

But he is at clubs in England where the Wolfpack looked to place him to further his rugbyleague education.

In order to loan Ngawati (pronounced Now-r-tee) to the London Skolars of the third-tier Betfred League 1 this season, they had to get him a British passport (which he is entitled to through his bloodlines) to avoid roster complication for London.

"That's another bizarre twist in a really bizarre tale," frustrated Wolfpack coach Paul Rowley said.

And while Toronto is high on Ngawati, calling him a "rough diamond," they consider him a work in progress.

Rowley says the 6-foot-4, 240pound Ngawati is getting his shot this weekend because he has earned it in training and because Toronto is resting regular second-rowers Cory Paterson and Andrew Dixon.

"We don't give first-team shirts out because this isn't a circus act," said Rowley, a former England hooker. "We're here to win games and we're here to be successful so that the people of Canada learn to love this sport.

They'll learn to love it when it's played on the highest platform.

That's what we're endeavouring to do.

"We don't give shirts out.

That's not the way I work. I earned a shirt and everybody who plays for me will earn a shirt. And this week Quinn's earned his shirt. ... I could have put other people there but I put Quinn there."

But with Toronto shifting its focus to the so-called Qualifiers series after the regular season - when the bottom four Super League teams face off with the top four Betfred Championship squads to determine four berths in the top tier next season - Ngawati is unlikely to see more action this year.

Rowley says in a perfect world the Canadian should probably be with a Super League academy team to hone his skills.

Toronto has also run into problems with American winger Ryan Burroughs, who went to Australia for a year to develop his rugby-league skills. Because of that, he is considered an import or quota player and thus would count against Toronto's import spots, which are filled by more experienced overseas players.

Rowley says Burroughs would likely have played 10 to 12 games for Toronto this season had he not run afoul of the roster rules.

"Our commitment to develop Canadian or North American players is massively restricted," Rowley said. "What other walk of life would put that sort of restrictions on employment? It's actually a stone-age mindset - because Ryan Burroughs playing for Toronto will not restrict the progression of English youth.

That's what the quota system is there for."

Ngawati is the first Canadianborn player to play pro rugby league according to Canada Rugby League, the governing body of the sport in Canada.

The Wolfpack roster last year featured Australian-born Canadian internationals Rhys Jacks and Tom Dempsey.

Despite the fact both have represented Canada internationally in the sport through their bloodlines, they do not hold Canadian passports and were thus deemed import players. With Toronto beefing up its roster after being promoted to the second tier, they did not make the cut this season.

Credit: THE CANADIAN PRESS

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Rules applied rigidly will throw up anomalies and will work against the very thing they are trying to protect. Allow discretion and someone will turn it into a loophole. 

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There was the similar problem with French playerrs when Catalans came in and so French players became exempt from the quota. J just apply the same rules toCanadians.

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48 minutes ago, bird said:

There was the similar problem with French playerrs when Catalans came in and so French players became exempt from the quota. J just apply the same rules toCanadians.

Was that as a result of the Bosman ruling with regard free movement of labour within the EU? Would it have been illegal to restrict French players?

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1 hour ago, Medway Bear said:

Was that as a result of the Bosman ruling with regard free movement of labour within the EU? Would it have been illegal to restrict French players?

Restricting employment within the EU would have been and still is against the law.

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2 hours ago, bird said:

There was the similar problem with French playerrs when Catalans came in and so French players became exempt from the quota. J just apply the same rules toCanadians.

I can't remember French players being part of the quota. They were exempt as EU citizens alongside players from countries who were members of the Kolpak agreement e.g PNG.

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