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On ‎7‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 12:06 PM, Wilber said:

Well everyone in the room voted for it plus its a £100 fine if they don't attend.

pointless voting for things then not engaging in it, they have three games of 7.5min each way and can turn up with 9/10 players so if they cant do that then we all may as well pack up now and go play tiddlewinks

One of the problems of the amateur game is  at meetings many of the secretaries just vote with the majority and not with what they think is the best for their club and at these meeting you'll probably have 3 or 4 secretaries who are vocal.

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Just now, Marauder said:

One of the problems of the amateur game is  at meetings many of the secretaries just vote with the majority and not with what they think is the best for their club and at these meeting you'll probably have 3 or 4 secretaries who are vocal.

I’ve asked a few secretaries and nobody remembers this particular vote. It would be interesting to see the minutes of the meeting where this vote took place and who was actually in attendance. 

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I’ve asked a few secretaries and nobody remembers this particular vote. It would be interesting to see the minutes of the meeting where this vote took place and who was actually in attendance. 

Sadly not many secretaries take notes at meetings and feed them back to their committee, in fact many only turn up to stop their clubs getting a fine.

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1 minute ago, Marauder said:

Sadly not many secretaries take notes at meetings and feed them back to their committee, in fact many only turn up to stop their clubs getting a fine.

The ones I spoke to are generally good it that department. Hence my surprise that they don’t remember the vote

For your reason above its vitally important that minutes are kept

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On 7/16/2018 at 12:48 PM, dixiedean said:

Not entirely sure why we need 4 national NCL divisions? Was brought in to provide elite amateur competition. Having 50 plus teams has drastically weakened the regional leagues.

Agree that the drop off of players is not unique to RL.

Soccer has seen a huge number of clubs and leagues fold in recent years as well. 

There is simply a greater range of pastimes and entertainment these days.

And the league wont,s to accept more teams in. You look in some area,s and there are 5-6 teams, it,s already to diluted 

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The standard of the league isn't what it used to be, but neither is the youth rugby, less and less players playing.

What's going on!!! Can anybody sort it out??

Hopefully they can , cause the game I grew up playing is disappearing.

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Season over for most of the team's in the NCL, we need to look seriously at what has happened this season with many clubs really struggling to get a full 17 player's each week. I honestly believe that if we don't regionilse the lower leagues then the future will be  very bleak for the community game.

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Scrap NCL 2&3 and those teams would rejoin the regional leagues which would make them a lot stronger. Less mismatches which I would guess mean more games played. Imagine NWML premier with Judes, Crosfields, Millom etc added to West Bank and Orrell. 

Do we even need 4 NCL divisions? I would say definitely not. 

 

The NCL should be seen as the pinnacle of the amateur game but now it’s an open house. Clock Face for instance got relegated from NWML premier division and the season after they are an NCL side. I seen Salford Roosters play this year and lose 100-0 with 11 men, 2 of which looked to be 50. Fair play to them for getting the game on and not giving up but that’s not what the NCL should be about. 

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2 hours ago, chisholm said:

Season over for most of the team's in the NCL, we need to look seriously at what has happened this season with many clubs really struggling to get a full 17 player's each week. I honestly believe that if we don't regionilse the lower leagues then the future will be  very bleak for the community game.

All the RFL want to is expand, very bad for the game. Should be 2 divisions at most, maybe 3 at a push, but too many mediocre teams  playing in the lowers leagues. Time the Amateur game went back to BARLA and leave the RFL to ruin the Pro Game.

 

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Originally was it meant to be for the elite in terms of playing side and facilities etc? 

If it was it probably isn't the case now, or was it never set out that way?? 

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40 minutes ago, johnmatrix said:

Originally was it meant to be for the elite in terms of playing side and facilities etc? 

If it was it probably isn't the case now, or was it never set out that way?? 

In a word "Yes"

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On 9/16/2018 at 8:04 PM, shawy13 said:

Scrap NCL 2&3 and those teams would rejoin the regional leagues which would make them a lot stronger. Less mismatches which I would guess mean more games played. Imagine NWML premier with Judes, Crosfields, Millom etc added to West Bank and Orrell. 

Do we even need 4 NCL divisions? I would say definitely not. 

 

The NCL should be seen as the pinnacle of the amateur game but now it’s an open house. Clock Face for instance got relegated from NWML premier division and the season after they are an NCL side. I seen Salford Roosters play this year and lose 100-0 with 11 men, 2 of which looked to be 50. Fair play to them for getting the game on and not giving up but that’s not what the NCL should be about. 

I think 3 divisions is fine. Agree the third may need looking at. If you were looking to cut to two leagues would need promotion/relegation between second division and regional. Definitely need three NCL divisions for me it has run fine for a long time with that amount

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