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Martyn Sadler

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I wish people would stop coming up with daft ideas that reward mediocrity. 

If don't win enough games after 23 rounds to put yourself in contention for the top 4, then tough s###! 

Why should a team finishing 8th and 20 points behind deserve a chance to be at OT? - They don't! 

It's professional sport not a pathetic school sports day.

I don't know why we ever adopted the NRL method of deciding the Champions,  there was nothing wrong with the 1st past the post system,  it's a far better reflection of who the best team is over the course of a season and the team most deserving of being called league champions.

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38 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:

I wish people would stop coming up with daft ideas that reward mediocrity. 

If don't win enough games after 23 rounds to put yourself in contention for the top 4, then tough s###! 

Why should a team finishing 8th and 20 points behind deserve a chance to be at OT? - They don't! 

It's professional sport not a pathetic school sports day.

I don't know why we ever adopted the NRL method of deciding the Champions,  there was nothing wrong with the 1st past the post system,  it's a far better reflection of who the best team is over the course of a season and the team most deserving of being called league champions.

there was nothing wrong with top 5 play offs which rewarded the top 2 with a second chance for their efforts and made it rightly very difficult to win it from outside the top 2. the GF is a great concept and the sell out show piece at OT every year is a success story for SL. the real problems started by going to top 8 play offs which Leeds exposed by winning from 5th twice. 14 teams, play each other twice, 5 team play off system, 1 up 1 down. that simple.

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On 8/20/2018 at 6:32 PM, Saint Toppy said:

I wish people would stop coming up with daft ideas that reward mediocrity. 

If don't win enough games after 23 rounds to put yourself in contention for the top 4, then tough s###! 

Why should a team finishing 8th and 20 points behind deserve a chance to be at OT? - They don't! 

It's professional sport not a pathetic school sports day.

I don't know why we ever adopted the NRL method of deciding the Champions,  there was nothing wrong with the 1st past the post system,  it's a far better reflection of who the best team is over the course of a season and the team most deserving of being called league champions.

For a start, a team finishing 8th and 20 points behind won't catch up 20 points on the leaders.

BUT, if it did happen, they would absolutely deserve a shot at the GF.

For this to happen, say Catalans would have had to win 9 games in a row against higher placed teams in consecutive weeks and Saints would have to lose 7 in a row. Why would the leaders after the first 23 rounds be more deserving of their place?

Everyone playing each other and giving a prize only to the team that wins the most is more like school sports I knew. 'A prize for everyone'  is a fairly new development.

RL is not soccer. We play fewer games, have smaller squads and more frequent injuries. This means you need luck with injuries and fixture timing as well as form. You could win games just by playing teams devastated by injury or backing up after a 5-day turn-around. Or like Cas, playing the cup finalists at home the week before and after the final. (We won't mention Hull).

Modern professional sport needs fans, viewers and sponsors (i.e. money). Teams need to keep hope alive and stay in the race for as long as possible. This would only be on merit, not a 'prize for all'. Given their start, Saints would always be favourites, but they would still have to prove it at the business end of the season. They can't afford to relax. Everyone knows the system at the start of the season.

The worthy champions should be tested at all stages of the season and be able to perform when the pressure is on.

Formula 1 is an example of how this works in modern professional sport. A race weekend comprises 3 free practice sessions, 3 qualifying sessions and a race.

You get nothing but kudos and airtime for free practice, but get chance to fine tune your team. Each of the qualifying sessions eliminates 5 drivers, but you get nothing for winning Q1 or Q2. The winner of Q3 gets to start on pole. However, the only prize that really counts is winning the race. Pole, fastest lap, fastest pit-stop, fastest in free practice, count for nothing. You have to perform at the big event. Everything builds to a crescendo.

Under the system below, Saints would have been given the LLS after 23 rounds and are a good bet for the 'premiership', giving them pole position for the GF, but they need to pick up their current form, they can't just coast to a semi-final spot. The challenge to win 'all four trophies' should be so difficult as to make it extremely rare.

After 3 rounds, positions are the same as the current system, but, with 3 points for a win, hope is still alive for more clubs to move, if they perform significantly better than the teams currently above them. It's not 'prizes for all' by any means, only the best performing teams can win at each stage, with the prizes increasing in value as the season progresses.

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Order still the same as current system, and top 4 decided (barring Huddersfield winning all 3 and Warrington losing all 3 by large margins), but the order of the top 4 and semi-final fixtures is still to play for. League leaders are not yet guaranteed to be premiers, or even get a home semi draw, if their form deteriorates, pressure is still on.

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