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#21 Duff Duff

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:07 AM

It is just one radio programme so people shouldn't get so paranoid. What was Rachel Burden talking about? How Sale just avoided relegation or how Sale have been going in matches against Worcester and London Irish? I very much doubt it. She would be referring to the England national team and the British Lions. Like it or not the general public are interested in the fate of the English Union team and the British Lions Union team. It is relevant to the general public and the wider radio audience.

Unfortunately for rugby league people are not that interested in Wigan v St Helens or Bradford v Leeds. It has no resonance with the wider public like international sport. If George Riley kept banging on about domestic rugby league matches that most people in England don't care about his producers are likely to tell him to shut up. However if Great Britian were playing Australia in a Test Series that they had a chance of winning Riley would be given licence to talk about League to his heart's content. The wider public would be interested.

Rugby league needs put on events that attract the interest of the wider public. Someone like Riley has to reflect the interests of the public and not just bang on about his own personal interests.

#22 JohnM

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:35 AM

True, its just one radio station and the Breakfast programme only has an average daily audience of 5 million. Rachel Burden has only been on R5Live for ten years and Breakfast anchor for two years.   For you to ask what she was talking about every one of these days, is talking about and will continue to talk about you only have to follow here on Twitter, which reflects on her ten year crusade to promote her code, not Sale, not the Lions, but everything all the time.


An excellent presenter, she nevertheless takes every opportunity to promote her favourite code, something that Riley used to do but does not seem to do any more.


That's it, nothing more, nothing less, no paranoia, just a question.


Anyway, for your info, some comments from http://www.bbc.co.uk...presenter.shtml


Rachel is an excellent choice, feisty enough to hold her own with Nicky and with added bonus of someone who likes and knows something about Rugby to balance the football groupies.

Oh dear, weekends were bad enough. Going to have to move away from 5 live in the weekday mornings. Really don't like Rachel, she is too noisy, bossy and full of rugby. Will really miss Shelagh.

Sadly, Rachel Burden almost exclusively goes on about rugby ad nauseum at the expense of anything else.

thinks she's a rugger afficionado,



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#23 Just to be clear

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 01:31 PM

Just to be clear, it is a disgrace that a rugby fan goes on air and constantly talks about her love of rugby, and it is a disgrace that a rugby fan goes on air and does not constantly talk about his love of rugby?

#24 JohnM

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 01:37 PM



All or nothing. That would work. 

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#25 Duff Duff

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 02:46 PM

Seriously Burden is one person. She is not some sort of fifth columnist sent out by the RFU to corrupt the masses. She gets to talk about her love of Rugby Union because Rugby Union puts on events that are relevant to the general public and that the general public are interested in. Regular Test matches against New Zealand, South Africa and Australia, the British Lions and the Six Nations. Like it or not Union puts on a good show.

What does poor old George Riley have to work with? Wigan playing St Helens four times a year? Or maybe an England game against the Exiles. Unfortunately that doesn't have the same immediate buy from the sporting public that international sport does. How many times in the last two years have the England rugby league team played first rate opposition in the shape of Australia or New Zealand? Then compare it to the number of first rate Tests that the Union team has played and there in lies the fundamental problem. A lack of high class internationals that the general public would be interested in. If the public aren't interested then Riley can't really talk about rugby league without his producers telling him to wind his neck in. It would be the same if he was interested in stamp collecting, snooker or darts!

The most accurate analogy I can think of is that many of the 5 Live Sport journalists are mad keen on American sports like American Football or Baseball but they don't spend all the time talking about them because it isn't relevant to their listeners.

The RFL desperately needs to make Rugby League relevant to the general sporting public again. Having regular 3 match series against the Australians and New Zealanders would be a massive start. It is not rocket science!

#26 John Drake

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:42 AM

The last two pages were off topic about bringing back Great Britain test matches, so I've moved all that into a previous thread on a similar theme, here.


Locking this one now.

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