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Well you'd better start saving up Dave as you will be playing them very soon!!

 

As in we'll be relegated in which case that'll be next year, or in the 2018 championship if they get promoted (and we have a second successful season in the Championship)?

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We won't be playing them in Champ 1 hopefully, its a crazy idea anyway. Clubs here struggle and the rfl admit a team across the pond.You couldnt make it up. What happens when part time players need a week off work?What happens if they make the playoffs? Can't imagine big away support either way,the only thing is players get a free holiday! Sheer madness and another example of expansion gone mad.Look after our own clubs before involving these crackers schemes.Just read also they will have special dispensation in regards the salary cap! What have teams in Champ 1 got to play for when clearly the RFL have an agenda to fast track these and Toulouse into SL? What a circus the RFL are,Nigel Wood being chief clown.

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We won't be playing them in Champ 1 hopefully, its a crazy idea anyway. Clubs here struggle and the rfl admit a team across the pond.You couldnt make it up. What happens when part time players need a week off work?What happens if they make the playoffs? Can't imagine big away support either way,the only thing is players get a free holiday! Sheer madness and another example of expansion gone mad.Look after our own clubs before involving these crackers schemes.Just read also they will have special dispensation in regards the salary cap! What have teams in Champ 1 got to play for when clearly the RFL have an agenda to fast track these and Toulouse into SL? What a circus the RFL are,Nigel Wood being chief clown.

It has been quoted that clubs unanimously voted for them.Do you know any turkeys that would vote for Christmas. Absolutely ludicrous
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and again, as with toulouse, it will depend if fans have passports too, therefore, if you want to follow your team, you need to shell out for passports/flights/accommodation, not to mention the time aspect, thereby penalising fans who may either not be able to afford it financially or afford it time wise

 

 the RFL cant even keep an eye that british teams are following the rules, LOL

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Why is everyone being so negative? Have some faith that we will stay up then maybe the players will therefore they will play better

this wasnt meant as a negative post, i was more forward thinking, and thinking that should toronto be good at rugby league (it COULD happen!! :D ) and they go up,

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the rfl have more brain farts and add more teams from around the globe - and here im imagining that its done rather like they do a draw for the challenge cup....one bag with loads of cities from around the globe, and one bag with leagues in....

 

"now then Reg....pull t'first ball out"

 

"championship one Alf"

 

"and what team shall we be shoehorning into championship one reg"

 

*pulls a ball from the other bag*

 

"Ulan Bator United Alf!"

 

"Great stuff...thats Ulan Bator United in championship one from 2019

NEXT"

 

"super league Reg"

 

"and who is going to be slotted in there then?"

 

"Capetown Catamarans"......

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Why is everyone being so negative? Have some faith that we will stay up then maybe the players will therefore they will play better

You will probably stay up Connor. The fact is full-time Toulouse will almost certainly be promoted as will full-time Toronto the following year. Thus leaving Oldham with a mountain to climb in holding on to their position in the championship.Plus making it more difficult for the top championship clubs to gain promotion to the Super dooper that they have strived for in recent years.
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From the BBC-Teams visiting Toronto's Lamport Stadium home, who will have their expenses covered by the Canadian side, will fly out on Thursday, play on Saturday and return home on Sunday.

"We have worked closely with the Canadian club's officials and investors in the last few years and have no doubts that Toronto Wolfpack will enhance a competition which has already established a reputation for welcoming new clubs," RFL chief executive Nigel Wood said.

Enhance the competition? What with a team of Canadians who ain't got a clue about RL? Methinks this "Canadian" team will consist of past their sell by date SL and NRL players I bet genuine Canadian players will be in very short supply,apparantly Jamie Peacock nearly signed for them,that kinda shows the type of player they are after. Hell of a way to travel for players for the sake of 3 days then return to work on a Monday. Its farcical.As for welcoming new clubs that's fine but the expansion clubs are of a poor standard and have been for a couple of years,they have not really improved,Oxford are a prime example of a club going backwards.When will the RL actually realise that expansion has not worked,and probably won't work.That's not being negative,but just simple fact from the way the expansion clubs to a degree have failed,both on crowds/interest and playing standard. As I said previously, the traditional clubs need help to grow and maintain the heartlands of the sport,until those areas are healthy and stable,expansion should wait.The RFL are obsessed with forcing expansion,its good to grow the sport but it should not be at the cost of established clubs.

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The whole idea is potty,simple as that.But then again the RFL do make some daft decisions don't they?.How many other sports do the lower echelons of the game have to travel Christ knows how far for a game.Gobaldigook the lot of it. Although I love the idea of Ulan Bator being in rugby league, just think,the Mongolian superleague champions. Has a great ring to it.How about Kathmandu crusaders.

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with you lot above its no wonder RUGBY LEAGUE is a small minority sport , lets just close every club down and have Wigan play Leeds every week eh

 

I leave you with one thought, or question, how many times have Oldham played at Wembley in 115 years ......... and how many times have an "expansionist club" like Sheffield or Catalan played there in just 20 years or so ??? answers on a post card

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As they are paying the costs involved, I like the crazy idea.  

 

Hopefully we won't be playing them for a while.

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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I notice that there is another key player in this "forward thinking plan" using the phrase "Its a No Brainer"    Paul Rowley....

 

Some people just have too much money and too little common sense in my view...we are talking about Oxford ,south wales hemel stags etc etc all the way to Canada for an 80 minute good hiding (until it all goes pear shaped when the rich bloke realises that Superleague is unreachable due to the intrinsic unfairness in the Championship Cap etc and the chasm now established to ringfence the elite)

 

 

 

The RFL...sigh...will they ever learn?

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Its not the fact its their money,its the fact that they will have a higher salary cap,probably be full time cause I cant imagine employers allowing people time off in 5 week blocks,the fact that the whole set up of allowing them in gives them a huge advantage,when they come here they will spend 4/5 weeks here and yet when our teams go they have to play after only one days rest. Set up a Canadian league first and nurture loval talent,then after a period of time let the strongest side,even if that is a representative team play in our league. To fast track them,which is effectively what they are doing is a kick in the nuts to the UK expansion teams,Coventry,Hemel,Oxford et al. They have to play and exist under normal salary caps but because the RFL have found a novelty in Canada,they have almost carte blanche. What happens if a player gets seriously hurt over there, who pays the hospital costs? Players families won't be able to go to join them due to work etc. Expansion done properly can work,unfortunately the RFL seem to just accept any club if it fits into their global vision,at the detriment to the quality and sustainability of clubs. Some expansion teams in this country get battered week after week,crowds are poor in most cases,yes expand the game but don't put clubs in a position where they struggle in the league year on year. Look at the table in Champ1 this season and last,the expansion clubs are in the bottom half. Either the RFL have let these clubs down by allowing them in before they are ready,or expansion doesn't work. The evidence lies in the tables.

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A big incentive for you to stay up! A big incentive for the team I support to get out of Championship 1.

This is a harebrained scheme. The players in Championship 1 are part time. Are they expected to fly out after work on Friday, play a match and fly back to get to work on Monday. If they go early and come back later they will lose wages (or will the Canadians subsidise this). Some employers may not release players from work so a weakened team may be sent out. What happens if a player is injured over there and not able to fly home with the rest of the team?

No  doubt they will be full time with no salary cap so not a level playing field.

Even Rugby Union and soccer could not come up with such a scheme.

 

 

 

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did anybody watch premier sports last night 7.30pm from Toronto on the panel where 

the mayor of Toronto

paul Rowley head coach

nigel woods

eric perez chief exec. Toronto rlfc

their team is self funding and backed by australion mining billionair david agyle this is a vast country wanting to play rugby league.  I have watched Canada play the American eagles in a three match series of rugby league with crowds of over 20.000  wasn't there a large country called Australia who started playing rugby league I wonder what happened to then anybody know

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Australia has the Nz warriors and a potential PNG team coming in, the leagues are all within their own country apart from one away game in NZ.Totally different to setting up a Canadian team then shoehorning them into the UK league with special treatment.If Toronto want to play in our leagues,then so be it but with the same salary cap as we have here, its completely unfair to allow them dispensation on the cap.Its not really a Canadian club then if its backed by an Aussie billionaire, its a franchised team based in Canada, they need to get domestic leagues to a good standard and get a pool of local talent in place before they make a step into semi pro/pro divisions.Its just going to be a team of overpaid SL retirees and Aussies, if its proved that this vast country wants to play RL then the RLIF not the RFL need to step in and promote the game there and make them a global power in RL by putting leagues/structures all over the country. Another PSG awaits imho, this inclusion of Toronto is mindboggling. If I'm wrong and in 5 years they are still in existence with 15-20 genuine Canadians in the squad then it will be a success and I will hold my hand up, unfortunately for me its absolute nonsense at the moment.

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