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Personally while I am not in favour of anybody olosing their job. Everyone knew the score before a ball was kicked this season and uncertainty is part of the nature of professional sport which is why players play on with niggling injuries for to drop out of the team potentially means someone else coming in and taking your place.

 

The game voted for this televised Car Crash and Chairmen, Coaches, Players, Support staff and fans should acknowledge that until the game votes otherwise this is their reality...

 

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Any system which has teams going up and down will have job losses. Cockayne needs to deal with it, concentrate on the game and stop whinging. I cringed when Jimmy Lowes did his post match interview last year and sounds like more of the same on the way this year. The qualifiers have been great TV, good games and good atmospheres. That's what sport is about.

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It used to be like that in the old P&R days.  The best, and costliest, players in a relegated team were let go immediately and usually snapped up quickly while the mid-talent and mid-cost players sweated trying to get a new job at, maybe, a promoted team or hoping for a gap elsewhere.

 

I suppose it's a bit harder these days though as the new format means it's marginal differences with the "promoted" side being just a bit better than the "relegated" one meaning probably fewer gaps for the players.

 

It was one of the benefits of franchising but then that had the other side of being harder for younger, or late-developing, talent to shine through in a promoted side.

 

Being a rugby league pro is a difficult thing, bar a small handful they certainly don't get paid the money their commitment, time, body damage and short career length deserves.

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Any system which has teams going up and down will have job losses. Cockayne needs to deal with it, concentrate on the game and stop whinging. I cringed when Jimmy Lowes did his post match interview last year and sounds like more of the same on the way this year. The qualifiers have been great TV, good games and good atmospheres. That's what sport is about.

 

You may have cringed but Jimmy probably knew a lot more than most about what was going on behind the scenes at the Bulls. A few months on Bradford are pretty much bust.

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Right or wrong that is the consequence of P&R.

One persons disaster is an other persons opportunity.

There are pros and cons.

And the plain truth is professional sport has losers as well as winners.

Ron Banks

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Standard life for many people who often are on contracts, at a company who face financial problems or self employed people. Life is not a bed of roses and players really should be prepared to face the prospect that they could be back in the real world and force to find a real job and not that as a pro Rugby League player. Most players have a plan to fall back on and Leeds players for example study at Beckett Uni and have something when the they are no longer a pro player at Full Time level. Cockayne is lucky to be where he is and if he was a better player then likely he would be signed by another SL club anyway. He has a life that many Olympians for example can only dream of who often have to train at 5am go to work and then train until late in the night even on days like Easter, Boxing Day, New Years etc. 

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Standard life for many people who often are on contracts, at a company who face financial problems or self employed people. Life is not a bed of roses and players really should be prepared to face the prospect that they could be back in the real world and force to find a real job and not that as a pro Rugby League player. Most players have a plan to fall back on and Leeds players for example study at Beckett Uni and have something when the they are no longer a pro player at Full Time level. Cockayne is lucky to be where he is and if he was a better player then likely he would be signed by another SL club anyway. He has a life that many Olympians for example can only dream of who often have to train at 5am go to work and then train until late in the night even on days like Easter, Boxing Day, New Years etc. 

 

It is a little different for those backroom, admin, sales and marketing staff. At a club like Hull KR, some of those people may have been there the best part of a decade and have to sit through 80 minutes knowing they may not have a job on Sunday. It is car crash TV but that is what the game voted for.

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Its brilliant now. The relegated club can secure investment to pay full SL cap and not lose anybody, they even get £780k to help them do so. Reality is the top earners leave and the majority accept reduced contracts with bonuses to get back into SL. This structure ensures the promoted club is competitive and SL is enhanced, but two divisions of 10 aint far away now

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Being a rugby league pro is a difficult thing, bar a small handful they certainly don't get paid the money their commitment, time, body damage and short career length deserves.

Speaking just about jobs that involve people watching what you do (so no nurses/teachers etc.)...does a film star deserve $20 million for a film?...yes because the money it makes from box office receipts says they do. Commitment, body damage etc. are not a factor in such a discussion...It's bums on seats (or eyes on the screen) that determine what you are paid. Where there is an argument though is if administrators are earning s disproportionate chunk in comparison to players (which I'm not sure is the case in RL).

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Being relegated after finishing bottom is one thing but being relegated after losing a contrived game dreamt up by marketing men and accountants is something else entirely. Where you usually look forward to big games this is a game you just dread if your team is going to be involved and that's just being a fan so imagine what the players are going through. It is a game which is simply unnecessary.

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Cockayne should spare a thought for the Salford players then. If it wasn't for off-field matters beyond their control, they wouldn't even be playing in this game.

 

Also, if like many leagues they had 2-up, 2-down P&R, he'd already be unemployed.

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Stick him in a warehouse on a zero hours contract. See if he moans about the MPG then. He still leads a pretty cosy lifestyle.

I don't recall a "statement" from him last year voicing his concerns about players mental health when his club were safe.

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Stick him in a warehouse on a zero hours contract. See if he moans about the MPG then. He still leads a pretty cosy lifestyle.

I don't recall a "statement" from him last year voicing his concerns about players mental health when his club were safe.

I take your point, but am I also to assume that anyone not doing a job on a zero hours contract has not right to complain?  That is a race to the bottom.

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I take your point, but am I also to assume that anyone not doing a ###### job on a zero hours contract has not right to complain?  That is a race to the bottom.

 

Sports people are never allowed to complain because sports fans envy the fact that they get to play sport.

 

They should man up and deal with it like real people and, like unthinking robots, never develop or express an opinion.

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I take your point, but am I also to assume that anyone not doing a ###### job on a zero hours contract has not right to complain? That is a race to the bottom.

As I said, he wasn't complaining last year when he and his club weren't involved.It only seems to be disgraceful when it affects him.

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I agree fully with Cockayne, and Liverpool Rover puts my feelings forward better than I could. It's different if you know all season that you will be relegated if you finish bottom, or maybe bottom two, but this is typical Rugby League farce..

But in this example people would still lose their jobs, so no different?

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Sports people are never allowed to complain because sports fans envy the fact that they get to play sport.

They should man up and deal with it like real people and, like unthinking robots, never develop or express an opinion.

Nope, I've been a "sports person" of course he can express his opinion but, once more just for you, he didn't complain when it didn't affect him. If he is so against it surely he'd have been so vocal about it from the start.

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Nope, I've been a "sports person" of course he can express his opinion but, once more just for you, he didn't complain when it didn't affect him. If he is so against it surely he'd have been so vocal about it from the start.

 

I also hate it when events cause people to think about things differently. Everyone should have fixed opinions that never change.

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I also hate it when events cause people to think about things differently. Everyone should have fixed opinions that never change.

Instead of being smug, give your opinion on this.He obviously is anti MPG but until it's affected him personally hasn't voiced his view, when if I were him would have being voicing it from the beginning. Instead he's spent most of his time trying to recruit for his pyramid schemes.

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I have more sympathy for the backroom staff than players as they usually have no impact on this, but some of the reacyions here are a touch hysterical. Maybe a feature on exactly who loses their job after relegation from a club would be an interesting read rather than fans claiming everyome is on the dole the day after the mpg.

The reality is that there are probably around 350 decent RL jobs in this country for players. As a pro RL player it is your challenge to be one of those best 350 and secure one of the contracts - im pretty sure not a single RL player went into it for job security. Players being released and moving on to others is and has always been part of the job - Cockayne should know plenty about that.

Playera show loyalty when they want to move on, clubs show little loyalty when they want a player to move on, if 25 players lose tgeir job (which they wont) then by default 25 others get their job (which doesnt happen).

Does anybody have any analysis of what happened to the first team squad of the last on-field relegated team?

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Instead of being smug, give your opinion on this.He obviously is anti MPG but until it's affected him personally hasn't voiced his view, when if I were him would have being voicing it from the beginning. Instead he's spent most of his time trying to recruit for his pyramid schemes.

to be fair on this one, the press wont have asked him for his view on this last year as he wasnt part of it.
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Sports people are never allowed to complain because sports fans envy the fact that they get to play sport.

 

They should man up and deal with it like real people and, like unthinking robots, never develop or express an opinion.

I don't think that is what most people are saying though. He's expressed his opinion and some people are disagreeing with him, and pointing out why they disagree.

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