Copa Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 http://m.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11711937 Very pragmatic and prevents many players from being locked out of smaller nations. Semi Radradra could still play for Fiji under this plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11711937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11711937 So basically England, Australia and NZ get the first pick of players; the rest pick up the remainder... that's not the way to build the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Rhino Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 • Eligible players can nominate one tier one nation to represent and one tier two nation. • Players can switch between their two countries multiple times within a World Cup cycle. • There is no stand-down between a change of allegiance. • Players of Polynesian heritage can play State of Origin but still be available to turn out for their native island country. Don't like the multiple changes but like that Origin won't hinder International representation. However now it's opened up how long before NSW asked if Graham, Burgess' and Hodgson can play Origin? 2014 Challenged Cup Winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Rhino Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 • Eligible players can nominate one tier one nation to represent and one tier two nation. • Players can switch between their two countries multiple times within a World Cup cycle. • There is no stand-down between a change of allegiance. • Players of Polynesian heritage can play State of Origin but still be available to turn out for their native island country. Don't like the multiple changes but like that Origin won't hinder International representation. However now it's opened up how long before NSW asked if Graham, Burgess' and Hodgson can play Origin? 2014 Challenged Cup Winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So, how much influence has the international rule changes been done to appease the desire of the State of Origin elegibillity rules? "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 • Eligible players can nominate one tier one nation to represent and one tier two nation. • Players can switch between their two countries multiple times within a World Cup cycle. • There is no stand-down between a change of allegiance. • Players of Polynesian heritage can play State of Origin but still be available to turn out for their native island country. Don't like the multiple changes but like that Origin won't hinder International representation. However now it's opened up how long before NSW asked if Graham, Burgess' and Hodgson can play Origin? The changes still don't allow that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Sorry Copa I didn't see this thread. Can the mods please merge both threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 http://m.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11711937 Very pragmatic and prevents many players from being locked out of smaller nations. Semi Radradra could still play for Fiji under this plan. He would only be eligible for Fiji under this plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Great news about the fourth bullet; the others... meh! There's been pragmatic and there's going too far. I can just here it now on the BBC and Sky... "<insert player's>, the England and Scotland international" happening far more regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 • Eligible players can nominate one tier one nation to represent and one tier two nation. • Players can switch between their two countries multiple times within a World Cup cycle. • There is no stand-down between a change of allegiance. • Players of Polynesian heritage can play State of Origin but still be available to turn out for their native island country. Don't like the multiple changes but like that Origin won't hinder International representation. However now it's opened up how long before NSW asked if Graham, Burgess' and Hodgson can play Origin? That can't happen. To play Origin they would have to declare for Australia and you can't switch between the top three. The Polynesian origin thing is a bit of a smoke screen as you can still play for your Island nation but Australia also have the right to select you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The Polynesian origin thing is a bit of a smoke screen as you can still play for your Island nation but Australia also have the right to select you. Just to elaborate here, the Aussies have FIRST pick i.e. the best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Great news about the fourth bullet; the others... meh! There's been pragmatic and there's going too far. I can just here it now on the BBC and Sky... "<insert player's>, the England and Scotland international" happening far more regularly. Wait until you hear Solomona Kata who scored a try for Tonga against NZ and a try for NZ against Tonga in the reverse fixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So, how much influence has the international rule changes been done to appease the desire of the State of Origin elegibillity rules? The whole thing has been built around SOO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just to elaborate here, the Aussies have FIRST pick i.e. the best players. It is back to the school playground again and having a look who are the big and fast kids. The only caveat to this is that they can only pick 17 and the rate that the NRL is producing players with a Polynesian background is frightening. But it doesn't sit comfortably with me. All they had to do was to make residency 5 and make SOO a state rep competition where you play if you qualify and don't have to declare for any nation. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The whole thing has been built around SOO. Totally agree Scubby What do you think the Chairman of the Rugby League International Federation (RLIF) our Mr. Nigel Wood's input to the rule changes have been? "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Totally agree Scubby What do you think the Chairman of the Rugby League International Federation (RLIF) our Mr. Nigel Wood's input to the rule changes have been? Wood is the epitomy of what is wrong with the sport; feathering your own nest to the detriment of the game in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I thought residency had gone to 5 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So it seems all they are suggesting is making what currently happens anyway, legal. Just confirming the only concern here is keeping the top three at the top and ensuring certain players don't have to show any loyalty. Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 No I can't see anything about stripping him of his current Australian eligibility. He would only be eligible for Fiji under this plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 How does a tier 2 country become a tier 1 country? Are France tier 2? It's frankly ridiculous and is done to maintain the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 No I can't see anything about stripping him of his current Australian eligibility. Agreed. Surely Radradra would nominate Australia as his tier one nation and Fiji as his other option seeing as he is now qualified for both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 How does a tier 2 country become a tier 1 country? Are France tier 2? It's frankly ridiculous and is done to maintain the status quo. There are only three tier one nations and this rule is designed to ensure it stays that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USRLFAN Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 There are two entities that this will help: First and foremost State of Origin will get a boost. Secondly Tonga and Samoa will get a big boost. Since I cannot fathom that the RLIF really wants to create powerhouses out of two microscopic nations in the Pacific. I am left to believe that this is once again a move to help promote SOO which this year saw lower attendances and T.V ratings. The countries that will really get hurt in this is France, Wales, PNG and Fiji. They have legitimate development programs. But they simply cannot compete with the second best that Australia and New Zealand have to offer. As the rules stand now Tonga and Samoa would both destroy those countries and this will only make it easier for Milford and the likes to run through them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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