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On tonight's BBC News a huge swathe was devoted to a BBC TV show " The Great British Bake Off"

Tonight's "The One Show" was mostly about a BBC 1 show "Strictly Come Dancing"

Then on BBC 1 there was a programme about a BBC 1 show from last year" Great British Bake Off"

Next up BBC 1 will be showing " The Apprentice" this will followed on BBC 2 by a programme about a programme they have just shown on BBC1 in " The Apprentice Your Fired"

The BBC are taking incest to a whole new level

Ron Banks

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So the Beeb makes popular telly shows. They'd be criticised if they didn't.

Other channels are available. ;)

And they certainly can't be accused of not screwing every pennysworth out of those programmes.

Its a shame they don't do the same for the rugby league games they have the broadcast rights to.

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On tonight's BBC News a huge swathe was devoted to a BBC TV show " The Great British Bake Off"

Tonight's "The One Show" was mostly about a BBC 1 show "Strictly Come Dancing"

Then on BBC 1 there was a programme about a BBC 1 show from last year" Great British Bake Off"

Next up BBC 1 will be showing " The Apprentice" this will followed on BBC 2 by a programme about a programme they have just shown on BBC1 in " The Apprentice Your Fired"

The BBC are taking incest to a whole new level

ITV should copy this and talk about the X Factor on their other programmes and maybe have an additional programme or two called something like Xtra Factor.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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What ITV do or don't do is entirely up to them - they aren't publicly funded.

 

They are a public service broadcaster though. They have exactly the same requirement to inform, educate, entertain etc.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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The BBC just can't win can they? They get criticised for making the most of their most popular programmes, but if all they made was dull, factual shoes then they would get just as much criticism from the very same people saying the licence fee is a waste for not making popular shows. :rolleyes:

 

Oh, and we all pay for ITV - the money paid to them by advertisers comes from us, the consumers who buy their products whether you do so because you've seen their TV adverts or not. 

"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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That's indirectly though. You aren't forced to buy products advertised on ITV. You could go to jail for not paying the licence fee.

 

You'd have to spend an inordinate amount of time watching ITV to work out all the products advertised by them in order to avoid them. 

"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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So the Beeb makes popular telly shows. They'd be criticised if they didn't.

 

 

Its a shame they don't do the same for the rugby league games they have the broadcast rights to.

 

The problem the BBC face in one. We all love RL, and would have loved it if 9pm last night there was an hour long RL preview for the four nations on BBC One. But the truth is, it would have absolutely bombed in the ratings (compared to their usual schedule, would have been decent ratings for our sport) and people who don't like sport, but do like things like Strictly and Bake off would have said "Why are the BBC spending money on sport that only people in the north watch when they could be making more entertainment shows". I'm not saying that's right, but there are two sides to every coin.

 

People genuinely complain the BBC waste money and time on the Olympics, the biggest sporting event on the planet and start getting up in arms if Eastenders is on BBC 2 as they are too thick to change the channel. I would hate to be a scheduler for the BBC as they can't win.

 

In any case I'm not convinced any argument against the BBC's content can't be boiled down to "The BBC should make content for everyone, especially me".

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Not really, plenty of stuff not advertised on ITV, its perfectly possible to live on brand X stuff. This argument is often put forward to defend the licence fee but it's not comparable. You HAVE to pay the licence fee end of.

I very, very rarely watch anything on ITV (and when we do we record it and zip through the adverts) so don't really know what's advertised on there to avoid. :P

 

I'm not sure its feasible in the future anyway, TV/Entertainment watching has changed so much in a short space of time.

Very true

"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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I watch very little tv nowadays. maybe 40- 60 hours per year, most of that will be over Christmas. It surprised no one more than me. 

The issue here is  the BBC  pomping its own programmes on their own programmes, as if they are national events it is a truly mindnumbing commentary. So short of ideas and talent to fill up too many time slots is the brutal reality.

What did Harry Hill say, BBC 2 has turned into BBC 1, BBC 1 has turned into ITV,  ITV has turned into Sky, BBC 4 is the new BBC 2 and BBC 3 was/ is Channel 5. 

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Not really, plenty of stuff not advertised on ITV, its perfectly possible to live on brand X stuff. This argument is often put forward to defend the licence fee but it's not comparable. You HAVE to pay the licence fee end of.

I'm not sure its feasible in the future anyway, TV/Entertainment watching has changed so much in a short space of time.

 

I'm fairly sure we'll all miss the Beeb when it's gone. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

My telly licence costs a measly twelve and a bit quid a month. I think that's a bargain, personally.

 

Costs nearly twice that to watch one Bulls home game, and I'm not guaranteed to be entertained by that at all! :(

 

I don't mind the Beeb plugging their own shows either. Just turn over if it bugs you, for gawd's sake.

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Without the BBC, I'd watch far less TV and listen to even less radio.

 

While there will always be justified and genuine criticism (including from me), the majority of the flak aimed at it comes from people with political or commercial desires to see the corporation either cowed into following one single party line (always theirs, for some reason) or asset-stripped and sold off piecemeal. Or both.

 

I think the fact that it never does please everybody all the time is a healthy sign. That it enrages intolerant extremists and tax-dodging billionaire broadcasting tycoons is even better.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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I'm fairly sure we'll all miss the Beeb when it's gone. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

My telly licence costs a measly twelve and a bit quid a month. I think that's a bargain, personally.

 

Costs nearly twice that to watch one Bulls home game, and I'm not guaranteed to be entertained by that at all! :(

 

I don't mind the Beeb plugging their own shows either. Just turn over if it bugs you, for gawd's sake.

Dont fret. It's not going anywhere. It's here to stay. In many ways, it's already like Sky andITV and publically owned C4...opaque, unaccountable, etc. In many other ways, it's not. It can afford to be innovative, creative. It can afford failures from time to time. But it also knows exactly what buttons to press when it comes to highly popular and successful programmes. Strictly, Bake off, Mastercard, Springwatch, Antiques Roadshow, Question Time, MOTD, Blackadder, QI, Mastermind, Poldark, etc...etc.... it also seems to know when enough is enough, doesn't it Mr Forsythe?

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As one sketch on Not The Nine o Clock News or was It Alas Smith and Jones had it -' I would gladly sell my house to pay for the BBC ' absolutely correct,the range of programmers on BBC TV and radio are second to none. I love Rugby League but there are other things in life!

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