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Does any team actually have a marquee player?

 

I looked up the original release it said it was a new era well there doesn't seem to be much sign really!

 

 

And is the amount really signicant enough to do anything but retain someone you already have?

 

 

 

“The ability to recruit one marquee player each will enable the clubs to enhance the talent pool within a competition which has a proud record of developing outstanding world class talent.”

Under the terms of the salary cap rule amendment, clubs will be entitled to sign one marquee player who will have a notional value on their salary cap register of either £100,000 if club trained or £175,000 if non-club trained.

Clubs will only be allowed to sign a marquee player if they meet clearly-defined affordability criteria based around their income and expenditure."

 

Does this do what it says on the tin?

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Warrington have sandow as a marquee player this season. The club have stated this and although he came for the last 7 games last season the marquee use of the deal is this season.

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Surprise surprise, we were promised all sorts of class signings. That didnt happen.

 

I would imagine Pritchard, Sandow, Carney and Tomkins are all designated marquee signings. It just shows that clubs were never actually prepared to throw 500k at a top of the range NRL player.

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Got a better idea, allow the £175K plus an extra £75K to be spent on a "A" team with the wages for said designated players not counting on the cap.

Just a seed of an idea, maybe people who would be pro for a system that could generate "A" teams could expand this, or others could knock it down.

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I would imagine Pritchard, Sandow, Carney and Tomkins are all designated marquee signings. It just shows that clubs were never actually prepared to throw 500k at a top of the range NRL player.

will be interesting to see how those four signings affect the crowds at those clubs.

Tomkins was confirmed as coming whether the marquee rule was brought in or not.

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Got a better idea, allow the £175K plus an extra £75K to be spent on a "A" team with the wages for said designated players not counting on the cap.

Just a seed of an idea, maybe people who would be pro for a system that could generate "A" teams could expand this, or others could knock it down.

i dont understand the proposal. Can you clarify the first paragraph?
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will be interesting to see how those four signings affect the crowds at those clubs.

Tomkins was confirmed as coming whether the marquee rule was brought in or not.

 

To be fair both Hull and Warrington have seen a spike in crowds this year but I know what you mean. It seems to be a case of getting a squad together and just giving the marquee tag to your highest earner rather than actually getting a top notch player in. 

 

I think had Salford not had such a rocky 12-18 months they may well have bid for a Billy Slater or Cooper Cronk. Can't see it happening anytime soon though. It's weird because you would think the marquee option would be tailor made for a club like Leeds who could genuinely lure a Cooper Cronk or Cameron Smith type player if they wanted to and make full commercial benefit from it.

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As I understand it, the agreement between the clubs when they brought the rule in was that they wouldn't publicise who was the designated marquee player. So no surprise that it hasn't created much fanfare. That doesn't mean it hasn't made a difference.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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i dont understand the proposal. Can you clarify the first paragraph?

Sorry Dave, what I meant to say is if we are going to allow clubs a sum of money that will not count on the cap for another or retaining a present "high profile player" would it not be better to allow clubs to finance an "A" team say up to value of say £250K.

How many promising young players would clubs need to add to the already 30+ player squads most Clubs operate with to field 2 teams regularly?

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Sorry Dave, what I meant to say is if we are going to allow clubs a sum of money that will not count on the cap for another or retaining a present "high profile player" would it not be better to allow clubs to finance an "A" team say up to value of say £250K.

How many promising young players would clubs need to add to the already 30+ player squads most Clubs operate with to field 2 teams regularly?

isnt it only first team squads that count on the cap anyway?
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I would imagine Pritchard, Sandow, Carney and Tomkins are all designated marquee signings. It just shows that clubs were never actually prepared to throw 500k at a top of the range NRL player.

That's it though isn't it? We don't know who they are, or even if they are! So we don't know if the thing is working or not! And the reasoning behind not saying who it is, is what?The other players won't have a clue? The fans can't work it out?

 

The question is does that mean it's enough money to make it actually work?

 

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As I understand it, the agreement between the clubs when they brought the rule in was that they wouldn't publicise who was the designated marquee player. So no surprise that it hasn't created much fanfare. That doesn't mean it hasn't made a difference.

i think there is some sense in the approach, but as fans i think we can look and ask do we think the calibre of signings has improved this year. Tbh, im not sure they have.

That said, there wasnt necessarily going to be 12 top players available so this may take 2 or 3 years for benefits to really be seen, but i felt some of the claims about the benefits of marquee signings were overstated.

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i think there is some sense in the approach, but as fans i think we can look and ask do we think the calibre of signings has improved this year. Tbh, im not sure they have.

That said, there wasnt necessarily going to be 12 top players available so this may take 2 or 3 years for benefits to really be seen, but i felt some of the claims about the benefits of marquee signings were overstated.

Yeah I can see that Dave!  And if it does, all well and good.

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isnt it only first team squads that count on the cap anyway?

Is it?

So are you saying that the few teams that operate said "A" teams can spend on them as they wish as long as they they do not contain a named squad player?

So please advise me, if a team who are using the full cap allowed have a promising player showing great potential in the second team and want to give him a run in the first team, how would that be financed to keep within the cap or would he be playing very cheaply?

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Is it?

So are you saying that the few teams that operate said "A" teams can spend on them as they wish as long as they they do not contain a named squad player?

So please advise me, if a team who are using the full cap allowed have a promising player showing great potential in the second team and want to give him a run in the first team, how would that be financed to keep within the cap or would he be playing very cheaply?

Once a player plays a set number of first team games his salary will count on the cap.

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Once a player plays a set number of first team games his salary will count on the cap.

No it's just your top 25 earners at the club that count on the cap. Otherwise clubs who spend up to the cap wouldn't be able to play their youngsters if several of their high earners have long term injuries.

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No it's just your top 25 earners at the club that count on the cap. Otherwise clubs who spend up to the cap wouldn't be able to play their youngsters if several of their high earners have long term injuries.

Thanks again.

So in theory a club could have any number of players on wages just under the wages of the 25th best payed at the club?

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No it's just your top 25 earners at the club that count on the cap. Otherwise clubs who spend up to the cap wouldn't be able to play their youngsters if several of their high earners have long term injuries.

No it's quite clear it's the top 25 players plus any player that plays in a salary cap relevant match. It's down to the clubs to leave space to allow for this.

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No it's quite clear it's the top 25 players plus any player that plays in a salary cap relevant match. It's down to the clubs to leave space to allow for this.

That SC seems more and more to be a Tardis for possibilities and probabilities than a set of rules!

 

The Marquee amount v the kind of contract that would be expected seems key! Especially given factors like the above!

 

 

So if I read all this correctly we have a theme of Maybes, might be's, possiblies and a could be or two. Well that's much clearer now! ;)

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