Wolford6 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Are you doing them in fat or on a griddle placed directly above a gas burner. A tin can is a steel can with a thin coating of tin. Gas burner ----- 10000 C at flame, at least 6000 C on a griddle surface Lard ---------------smoke point ~2000 C Tin melting point: 2210 C, though tin-vapour release is probably higher for a tin can because the mobile tin will fuse into an alloy with the steel at high temperatures http://www.therange.co.uk/home_and_furniture_housewares_cookware_bakeware/dept/fcp-category/list?resetFilters=true#page=4&productsPerPage=16 i.e. you run the risk of both inhaling tin vapour and marking your cooker. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Are you doing them in fat or on a griddle placed directly above a gas burner. A tin can is a steel can with a thin coating of tin. Gas burner ----- 10000 C at flame, at least 6000 C on a griddle surface Lard ---------------smoke point ~2000 C Tin melting point: 2210 C, though tin-vapour release is probably higher for a tin can because the mobile tin will fuse into an alloy with the steel at high temperatures http://www.therange.co.uk/home_and_furniture_housewares_cookware_bakeware/dept/fcp-category/list?resetFilters=true#page=4&productsPerPage=16 i.e. you run the risk of both inhaling tin vapour and marking your cooker. The latter, probably a dry frying pan. I managed to find of couple of presentation rings at Asda, they're not big enough but it'll be reet. Smaller crumpets. Edited June 4, 2013 by hindle xiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I agree there. I have even seen some vegans saying that if you don't go vegan like, straightway, you may as well not bother. Ridiculous, and liable to put off potential Vegans, so they're not helping their cause either. Reminds me of that character in 'The Simpsons' who claims to be an 8th-level vegan - he doesn't eat anything that casts a shadow. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 The latter, probably a dry frying pan. I managed to find of couple of presentation rings at Asda, they're not big enough but it'll be reet. Smaller crumpets. Cocktail Crumpets! Ooh, very a la mode. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 Cocktail Crumpets! Ooh, very a la mode. Elephantitis blini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 There are actually vegans like that. They think someone stopping eating meat but not becoming extreme are 'harming the cause'. They even have a go at regular vegetarians. As you say, ridiculous. I blame the RFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) So are we definitely a no-no with the DIY crumpet rings? Cos I've a ##### load of tuna cans winking at me. Btw, who cooks crumpets in lard? Edited June 4, 2013 by hindle xiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Crumpets seem like puff pasty in that its a lot less fuss to by them ready made and you're not really gaining much by making them yourselves. I admire the effort though. One a side note, my missus bullied me into ordering one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/HACIENDA-STEEL-PIZZA-CHIMENEA-CHIMINEA/dp/B004HU48S4/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoors&ie=UTF8&qid=1370361163&sr=1-2&keywords=pizza+oven Hasn't arrived yet so I don't know whether it is a genius purchase or another foodie gadget that never gets used. Fides invicta triumphat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Crumpets seem like puff pasty in that its a lot less fuss to by them ready made and you're not really gaining much by making them yourselves. I admire the effort though. One a side note, my missus bullied me into ordering one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/HACIENDA-STEEL-PIZZA-CHIMENEA-CHIMINEA/dp/B004HU48S4/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoors&ie=UTF8&qid=1370361163&sr=1-2&keywords=pizza+oven Hasn't arrived yet so I don't know whether it is a genius purchase or another foodie gadget that never gets used. If you don't use it for pizza, it's quite a nice heat source for sitting outdoors on an evening. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtum Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'm finding that I'm eating a lot less meat recently. Partly this is due to the cost of responsibly sourced meat but also to keep my calorie intake under control. I joke about vegetarians but I'm really only refer to the militant type who have a right bee in their bonnet about someone else's choice to eat meat. I agree there. I have even seen some vegans saying that if you don't go vegan like, straightway, you may as well not bother. Stay strong boys, stay strong..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I've been moving steadily towards cheaper cuts of better-quality meat in my diet. They take longer to make good, but the results are worth it. With suppliers like Donald Russell, you might wince at the cost of, say, a beef steak or joint, but cuts like cheek, tail, rib trim are well priced and delicious. Last time I had a fillet steak, I appreciated the tenderness, but was disappointed by the lack of deep beef flavour. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Pom Bears are immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 Keelham Farm Beer Festival, tomorrow. BD13 3SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l'angelo mysterioso Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I quite like Nigel Slater's shows. Now that Greg Wallace .... I could only warm to him if I had a flat iron handy. He knocks some decent stuff outBut he seems lonely He seems to be always making supper for one WELCOME TO THE ROYSTON VASEY SUPER LEAGUE 2015 Keeping it local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l'angelo mysterioso Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) I've been moving steadily towards cheaper cuts of better-quality meat in my diet. They take longer to make good, but the results are worth it. With suppliers like Donald Russell, you might wince at the cost of, say, a beef steak or joint, but cuts like cheek, tail, rib trim are well priced and delicious. Last time I had a fillet steak, I appreciated the tenderness, but was disappointed by the lack of deep beef flavour.I'm going in the other direction: I'm teaching myself to cook steak properlyI get a bit irritated by the patronising attitude of people on tv who say that people on a limited budget should buy cheap meat forgetting that cooking the stuff knocks hell out if a limited energy bill Edited August 1, 2013 by l'angelo mysterioso WELCOME TO THE ROYSTON VASEY SUPER LEAGUE 2015 Keeping it local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) I'm going in the other direction: I'm teaching myself to cook steak properly I get a bit irritated by the patronising attitude of people on tv who say that people on a limited budget should buy cheap meat forgetting that cooking the stuff knocks hell out if a limited energy bill I don't think choosing cheap cuts should be limited to people on a tight budget, and a slow cooker uses about as much electricity as a filament lightbulb. As for cooking steak, try Heston Blumenthal's method of flipping it every 15-20 seconds. It gives good results, and never forget to let the meat come up to room temperature before cooking and to rest it afterwards before eating. Edited August 1, 2013 by Futtocks Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'm going in the other direction: I'm teaching myself to cook steak properly I get a bit irritated by the patronising attitude of people on tv who say that people on a limited budget should buy cheap meat forgetting that cooking the stuff knocks hell out if a limited energy bill Maybe they should learn to collect wood and cook on a real fire, or dig fire pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 I don't think choosing cheap cuts should be limited to people on a tight budget, and a slow cooker uses about as much electricity as a filament lightbulb. As for cooking steak, try Heston Blumenthal's method of flipping it every 15-20 seconds. It gives good results, and never forget to let the meat come up to room temperature before cooking and to rest it afterwards before eating. I'm a big fan of ol' Heston and I've done that technique of taking it out of the wrapping and let it sit on a wire rack in the fridge for two days and then frying it intensely for 20 seconds at a time. It's really good. Although it helps it you start with the best cut you can afford first. I found when it comes to letting meat rest a while, it will cool down, but it's a piping hot sauce/gravy/butter that warms it up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I'm a big fan of ol' Heston and I've done that technique of taking it out of the wrapping and let it sit on a wire rack in the fridge for two days and then frying it intensely for 20 seconds at a time. It's really good. Although it helps it you start with the best cut you can afford first. I found when it comes to letting meat rest a while, it will cool down, but it's a piping hot sauce/gravy/butter that warms it up again. I wrap it in foil to rest, and keep it on a rack over the (still hot, but off the hob) pan. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 I wrap it in foil to rest, and keep it on a rack over the (still hot, but off the hob) pan. I was tempted to try his 60deg chicken recipe, low and slow, but everyone else is a bit squeamish and I couldn't find a chicken small enough for one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l'angelo mysterioso Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I don't think choosing cheap cuts should be limited to people on a tight budget, and a slow cooker uses about as much electricity as a filament lightbulb. As for cooking steak, try Heston Blumenthal's method of flipping it every 15-20 seconds. It gives good results, and never forget to let the meat come up to room temperature before cooking and to rest it afterwards before eating. I agree with youI'm a long and slow fan As for the steak that's pretty much what I do I get my meat from this place in Sheffield that you have to be a member of and you can only join if you are a public servant some good gear and very cheap WELCOME TO THE ROYSTON VASEY SUPER LEAGUE 2015 Keeping it local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l'angelo mysterioso Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Maybe they should learn to collect wood and cook on a real fire, or dig fire pits. I occassionally do WELCOME TO THE ROYSTON VASEY SUPER LEAGUE 2015 Keeping it local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 I agree with you I'm a long and slow fan As for the steak that's pretty much what I do I get my meat from this place in Sheffield that you have to be a member of and you can only join if you are a public servant some good gear and very cheap That's a bit too League of Gentleman for my liking. Hilary's special stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I ate at the Caddy Mann restaurant the other day. Extremely good food - I had fricassée of squirrel! Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 A girl called Jack. Some of you may have heard about this fine young woman on the radio, or read about her and her blog about poverty, food poverty, politics and other things. http://agirlcalledjack.com/2012/07/30/hunger-hurts/ Moving stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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