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A good report in her column today about her train journey to Liverpool last Sunday. I don t know how to attach the article but it is on page 30 of today s issue.

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A good report in her column today about her train journey to Liverpool last Sunday. I don t know how to attach the article but it is on page 30 of today s issue.

The article will be paywalled, but @WarrCroft has posted a scan of it on Twitter.

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My journey on Saturday from Manchester was terrible!

 

The point of the article is that her journey was terrible, but, made much better by the humour and civility of the rugby fans on the train with her.

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The point of the article is that her journey was terrible, but, made much better by the humour and civility of the rugby fans on the train with her.

 

Funny enough we journeyed over from Oldham via Manchester and were asked for help at the tram stop by a Spanish couple visiting for a long weekend who were going to Liverpool for the day, they knew nothing about Rugby other than it existed, but thought the people getting on the train were great, they were really taken aback by how many women and children were in the crowds getting on the train.

 

The less said about the actual trains the better

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"People tell me League fans are nicer than Union ones..." Those people are spot on Carol :)

 

While we're on the topic of the good fans of Rugby League, when on holiday in September I was talking to a lady who volunteers for various events like the London Olympics and the anniversary games athletics at the London Stadium, she said she also did steward work at Wembley and Twickenham and said she much preferred the League fans and, when she got the chance to watch, the game as well.

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This article is basically a female reporter for the Times encounters a group of men on a train and is surprised they don't meet her low expectations. It goes to prove just how starved RL really is of coverage that it is even worthy of attention. She doesn't know the difference between u and RL and doesn't need to know. She says as much.

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"People tell me League fans are nicer than Union ones..." Those people are spot on Carol :)

Apart from Leigh fans, obviously.

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This article is basically a female reporter for the Times encounters a group of men on a train and is surprised they don't meet her low expectations. It goes to prove just how starved RL really is of coverage that it is even worthy of attention. She doesn't know the difference between u and RL and doesn't need to know. She says as much.

So the whole of this thread is woman has nice train ride and the OP registers this as coverage ................... :O

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So the whole of this thread is woman has nice train ride and the OP registers this as coverage ................... :O

 

 

Seriously ????  Why all the negativity ?

 

A good piece written about the sport and its followers and some folk seriously still have time to moan ...Sometimes reading this board I despair , how some posters manage to turn a positive into a negative

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how some posters manage to turn a positive into a negative

 

lots and lots of practice, that's how.

 

On Radio Five Live this morning, , Nicky Campbell was pushing for the Scotland Rugby League side for SPOTY Team of the Year.  Won't be long before someone on here moans about that!

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how some posters manage to turn a positive into a negative

 

lots and lots of practice, that's how.

 

On Radio Five Live this morning, , Nicky Campbell was pushing for the Scotland Rugby League side for SPOTY Team of the Year.  Won't be long before someone on here moans about that!

Ah, is that the same Nicky Campbell who usually ridicules RL at every opportunity?

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Seriously ????  Why all the negativity ?

 

A good piece written about the sport and its followers and some folk seriously still have time to moan ...Sometimes reading this board I despair , how some posters manage to turn a positive into a negative

An irrelevant piece written about the writers surprise at the behaviour of men on a train, written as an aside in a paper with renown antipathy for RL by a writer who couldn't care less about any Rugby and says as much.  The despair is that this constitutes coverage. 

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An irrelevant piece written about the writers surprise at the behaviour of men on a train, written as an aside in a paper with renown antipathy for RL by a writer who couldn't care less about any Rugby and says as much.  The despair is that this constitutes coverage. 

 

Goodness me, CHC.  I bet you're fun at a party! 

 

This was not a 'report' as you have previously implied.  It was an item in a column; columnists and reporters are different creatures!  You say it was irrelevant - of course it was!  That is the pleasure of some columns in a paper like The Times; they are sometimes flippant, amusing (to some!!), thought-provoking on occasions, and various other things besides.  That is the point of columns like this; but they are not, or not necessarily, reporting the most important things.  For instance, Matthew Parris does write columns on weighty matters, such as Brexit.  However, in one of his columns, he is likely to provide the latest news on some aspect of local life where he lives in the Peak District (eg how his alpacas are doing); that isn't important news, either.

 

Don't despair, Rach.  We don't all moan well, not all the time!

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Goodness me, CHC.  I bet you're fun at a party! 

 

This was not a 'report' as you have previously implied.  It was an item in a column; columnists and reporters are different creatures!  You say it was irrelevant - of course it was!  That is the pleasure of some columns in a paper like The Times; they are sometimes flippant, amusing (to some!!), thought-provoking on occasions, and various other things besides.  That is the point of columns like this; but they are not, or not necessarily, reporting the most important things.  For instance, Matthew Parris does write columns on weighty matters, such as Brexit.  However, in one of his columns, he is likely to provide the latest news on some aspect of local life where he lives in the Peak District (eg how his alpacas are doing); that isn't important news, either.

 

Don't despair, Rach.  We don't all moan well, not all the time!

Depends on the party.  

The difference between reporter and columnist is as irrelevant to the matter as the writers musings are to Rugby League. The fact that this is RL coverage is depressing not pleasurable. And any thought provocation should be on the shoulders of the writer in challenging her own preconceptions not the reader.

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TBH, I can't say Union fans are exactly hooligans. I've come across a few that are like 'rah rah rah' but most are very nice people. Like RL, there's good and bad.

I have very fond memories of the Harlequins versus St Helens match, which was the first game for Harlequins RL.  There was an evident and rather amusing contrast of cultures, but everyone got on very well, including all enthusiastically cheering Catalans to victory over Wigan RL, view from the screens in the bar afterwards.

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Depends on the party.  

The difference between reporter and columnist is as irrelevant to the matter as the writers musings are to Rugby League. The fact that this is RL coverage is depressing not pleasurable. And any thought provocation should be on the shoulders of the writer in challenging her own preconceptions not the reader.

Or, should your glass be half full instead of totally empty, shattered and stamped into powder, it gives RL some positive PR in an area of the paper where it will be read by the kind of people who would never bother reading a Rugby League article/match report.

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There isn't enough to warrant a glass. This is someone spilling uht milk on the floor, wiping it up with kitchen towel then realising there is no more milk squeezing the gritty dregs into a cup, making a brew then giving it to their least favourite colleague and remarking "see I really do like you".

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There isn't enough to warrant a glass. This is someone spilling uht milk on the floor, wiping it up with kitchen towel then realising there is no more milk squeezing the gritty dregs into a cup, making a brew then giving it to their least favourite colleague and remarking "see I really do like you".

 

That's the spirit!

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