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  1. 6 points
  2. 6 points
    Jamaica in! As Daphne du Maurier might have put it.
  3. 6 points
    And there's more ..... If this sport doesn't seem magic to you, what's wrong with you?
  4. 5 points
    Sure, you could get pretty close in expenditures. Now, add ticket income, concession income, sponsorship, merch, etc. Without knowing those numbers, it's all hypothetical, but let's assume the income doesn't cover the expenses so far. We're now at a negative profit, or a loss. That still isn't debt. Debt implies an obligation to repay. We don't know, and have no proof, of what DA's and his other partners' financial arrangements are, are startup or today. Perhaps it was $20 million startup fund and they haven't gone through half of it yet. Perhaps (more likely) they provide ongoing cash injections as needed. This happened at least once. But, unless someone has proof otherwise, there is no indication of debt. EVERY startup requires investment. It's the "rule" , not the "exception" , that almost every business will spend money and be negative while getting established, until profits make up for start up costs. Most investments are made with the acceptance that they could be lost, and not repaid. Unless proof is provided, there is no reason to believe that TWP is different from any other startup, with the owners understanding the risks of their investment. When the startup in question is a professional sports team, figures in the millions, or even tens of millions, are perfectly normal. Making a loss as a start-up is not of itself a negative point when considering the merits of TWP.
  5. 5 points
    Not when they don’t run an academy, otherwise they’re not increasing the pool, they’re taking from the amateur game. The whole point of the reserves is to fill the pathway from academy u18s to first team
  6. 5 points
    Come on stop being gloomy. In Jan '18 Adam Pearson said changes would be put in place over the next 3 months that would within 6 months make RL a real threat to RU. The evidence of that coming to pass is listed below.....
  7. 5 points
    Good point . Reasons to be cheerful Toronto Salford New Headingley Brits in the NRL Anthony Gelling on YouTube York
  8. 5 points
    The end of GB? Hopefully, the England Rugby League brand has been growing and they already don’t play enough games, to play some of those few and far between fixtures as Great Britain makes no sense.
  9. 4 points
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/international-boss-considers-taking-nines-to-america-and-middle-east-20191020-p532cs.htm
  10. 4 points
    Much of the appeal of nines is the numerous games over a couple of days, the short games and the general speed of the game. Stopping the game for Video ref decisions doesn't make sense to me in that context and adds nothing.
  11. 4 points
    It's interesting when you look back through this thread that people were saying that the video ref must come into 9's to get the decisions right. But the best team in the tournament won. And if we didn't have the video ref in Super League the best team would still win. Same with the NRL. TV officials is something we have been brainwashing into thinking are essential to sport to guarantee a fair outcome. It really isn't true. If we let referees make their own decisions they will get some right and some wrong but the best teams will win in the end. Was every Premier League season and every Premier League champion rendered invalid because VAR was only introduced this year? Were the McEnroe vs. Borg Wimbledon finals invalid just because we didn't have Hawkeye? We don't need TV to referee our game, let the refs do it. It will all be ok in the end.
  12. 4 points
    Excellent day out, bit parky but good entertainment at a very fair price. I have to say I was really impressed by the crowd turnout today, lots of folks seemed to be sampling league for the first time which has to be a great thing. As I walked in I overheard a few comments such as "so what sort of rugby is this?" and " so is this a b team cos of the world cup?" And any RL match that has women in saris taking selfies by the pitch is a winner in my book. Lots of positives to take from today.
  13. 4 points
    Proves that the insistence of taking England games to places like Leigh and Doncaster were ridiculous.
  14. 4 points
    The Problem in Rugby League are the people running it. On the field the Product continues to produce. But having people like Greenberg, Wood, Rimmer, Elstone etc running the game, its amazing the game is still Alive. Organizing, Promotion and living in the real world are things that dont exist. The game is entertaining and a Produkt that should be easy to capatalize on. Somehow the game has a history of some of the worse Administrators in the world!
  15. 4 points
    Halifax had lost a Number of the Top Reserve graders they had, as they were not able to offer the money some SL Clubs are offering. Some SL Clubs are doing little as poss with Reserve grade and are happy to Raid Halifax Reserves than do much scouting etc. The RFL/Super League Reserve Grade is a joke. Fax, Newcastle, Haven, Keighley were expected to Jump through hoops. SL Clubs are not in any Real Minimum Standards procedure. The RFL refuse to sanction games that are not Part of this Circus. The RFL did little to help Reserve Teams this year. Sometimes refusing to Provide match officials for games etc. Fax,like other Champ Teams,would have received no Help at all from the RFL and in the end felt that without any support, it was a waste of time, people and money. Once again the people running the game have let down its members. The RFL should have just left things as they were, rather than create this Circus,that is not being properly organized.
  16. 4 points
    Precisely Regular 3-test series GB v Oz for the Ashes was a victim of the moronic Super League war … and for some equally moronic reason, an Ashes series has not been held since 2003 It means a whole new generation of RL fans in Oz (and the UK) are growing up without any knowledge of this brilliant historic RL rivalry and instead are fed the rubbish that Origin is the "pinnacle" of RL ! Depressing
  17. 4 points
    To me this is very simple. Two compulsory reserve leagues, one for SL and one for Championships
  18. 4 points
    Erm the debate is TWP's admission via their coach they have not been able to deliver any players or TV deals and are unlikely to do that. These were the success criteria their founder set the club, plus in failing to do that they ran up a £10,000,000 debt and continue to run that higher as they enter Superleague. Oddly enough their coach excuses this total failure of their business plan on the other clubs for not being "big city's". Just admit TWP far from being a massive success are a massive failure, and we can call it a day?? Having a go at me is the usual cheap trick tried literally more than a thousand times. Trying to hound someone out of a debate isn't grown up is it? 1. 123 years on and the model still works, only in the last 23 years the success has risen a level with the game stepping up from semi-pro to Professional. We have done pretty good and continue onwards with a new SKY deal waiting. 2. You have your one opinion, thousands of fans have theirs - as a democrat I'll accept the majority vote. TWP are now pointless by their own admission no players, no TV deals and one of the biggest trading debts ever in the history of the game. 3. I don't see it at all because you woffle on from post to post claiming your a marketing genius, but never actually set out your cunning plan. Please let myself and my business advisor Mr. Gubrats know what it is. We may start our own club in Timbuktu with this plan.
  19. 4 points
    As Samuel Johnson once said, when a man is tired of rugby league, he is tired of life.
  20. 4 points
    The 2021 TV deal will be the major indicator. If it is significantly lower, the writing will be on the wall.
  21. 4 points
    That can’t be right BSJ. Those porto-loos must have cost them a small fortune!! They even flush.
  22. 4 points
    Not really. Between 1990 and 1992, GB played 23 internationals (not including other tour games). Between 2013 and 2015, England played just 13 internationals. The Ashes tours of the early-mid 90s were very big business with Old Trafford and Elland Road selling out. Also there was a World Cup Final in 92 with approx 73k at Wembley. I think the fact that GB played more frequently in the early 90s meant that RL was in the consciousness of the wider public more often.
  23. 3 points
    Only in the sense that it’s an almost 500-mile round-trip for an England A game. Glad I went, however. Jamaica games will be fun at the World Cup. Can’t wait for it, to be honest. Only two years to go!
  24. 3 points
    Must be mad but I’m on my way back from this. First half was all England and Jamaica barely had a PTB in the Knights’ 20. Second half was largely in England territory due to ill-discipline/a helping hand by Thaler depending on how you view it. If Jamaica can find a halfback from somewhere they could be dangerous at the World Cup. They will certainly give some of the lower tier nations a game. Danny Richardson was very good for England. Ran the show from the right side of the field where many of the tries were scored. Good turnout in the South Stand bolstered by c.2000 tickets given to the Jamaican community in Leeds. The steel band playing during the game was ace. The Jamaican anthem was hilariously overly long and hammy. Twice the crowd applauded before the singer launched into another verse! If today was a taste of 2021, I can assure you Jamaica will add some real flavour to the World Cup.
  25. 3 points
    And people still try and make out that a full strength England can't have the likes of Tonga et al touring because it wouldn't pay. Barely anyone I knew even knew about this knights match and it had little to no publicity. 7,113 is a very respectable crowd.
  26. 3 points
    England aren't playing a game this year (13s at least). I don't understand why they aren't playing this as a full Test. It doesn't deem the brand at all if the first choice players are not available. But the Knights phrase diminishes the standing of the opposition IMO... no national 2nd teams should be playing full national sides.
  27. 3 points
  28. 3 points
    There's your first error. And there's the rest. Was there something about this post of his in particular that made you think this time would be different? It's called an interior monologue and Parky is TGG's James Joyce.
  29. 3 points
    People have been saying this since 1895 The good will out
  30. 3 points
    Each of those sports has numerous events where they make a small fortune and get great crowds. They all have a strong international dimension that is taken very seriously and none of them have any trouble attracting blue chip sponsors. Any minor events that you describe are glossed over because they are somewhat irrelevant in the bigger picture.
  31. 3 points
    This week,I've watched womens International tennis played in a near empty stadium,European golf being watched by two men and a dog and international cricket played in a stadium where you could literally count the crowd.On their various web sites there has not been one mention of the crowds. On here,the only topic of conversation,for a game which hasn't been played ,is,how poor the crowd will be. Some of you really need to change the broken record.
  32. 3 points
    But where will union get their future coaches, particularly their defensive coaches?????????????????
  33. 3 points
    Yep, people forget that in 1989 only 18k turned up at Old Trafford and 13k at Elland Road for NZ v GB tests despite this golden era with Hanley, Offiah, Schofield, Gregory, Ward, Lydon et al.
  34. 3 points
    At least the lack of crowd will give Harry a clearer view of which Australian has failed in a GB shirt.
  35. 2 points
    You always know an anthem is going long when the fans of the team start clapping after the first verse/chorus. She belted it out well though. Top performance.
  36. 2 points
    'Bit Parky' do you mean that the crowd spent the entire match moaning that they weren't proper Jamaican's and Perez had promised they would be and a portion of the crowd was there on freebies!
  37. 2 points
    But watching the nines you see that when they make calls due to necessity they get it right to an overwhelming degree . A ref , touchie and in goal touchie does the job . The small minority are wrong or debatable but it’s myth you don’t get the same with a VR . It turns refs into robots refereeing by remote control abrogating responsibility to someone else purely because it’s there . Get them back officiating games , and 99% of the game still does this amazingly enough
  38. 2 points
    I don't know why anyone is shocked NZ vs Oz can hardly draw 5 figures. NZ games in the 2017 RLWC played in NZ were horribly attended. The only saving grace was going to be the Tonga match but that has been wrecked and the Port Moresby game will be great but holding a game in 3rd world country although great as it may be will not make a dime. This forum called this happening 18 months ago, why the didn't scrap it and take the Australian offer of a UK tour this Autumn is beyond me. Although some on here still argue we shouldnt have taken the Aussies offer.
  39. 2 points
  40. 2 points
    Parksider, I'm going to ask you direct questions, in order to provide the debate you so cherish. 1. Could you please provide your source for this number? I've seen you post it more than once, so you must have one. 2. Is it "grown up" to repeatedly demand debate, but then ignore me when I've civilly engaged you here, here, and here? Just a general wondering here, but why would anyone give that to you for free? I'll leave it at 2 direct questions, since as demonstrated you seem to have problems with replying to more than that, despite clearly no being averse to typing long posts.
  41. 2 points
    Very blurred lines isn’t it. I mean the whole Nelson Asofa Solomona issue is a farce. How does the NRL have jurisdiction to ban him from international games?
  42. 2 points
    I want to know where the NRL ends and the IRL begins in this tournament because Lebanon were penalized under NRL rules, not IRL rules.
  43. 2 points
    So my statement was right?? David Hulme played in the second test. I think Gregory lost his place after the Old Trafford defeat. I remember the 2nd test. Hampson sent off for a butt in the in goal and 12-man GB squeezing NZ something like 26-6. Great performance.
  44. 2 points
    TGG what it says on the tin! The Never Ending Story .....
  45. 2 points
    Totally agree, the refereeing was appalling, and was completely biased in favour of Australia!
  46. 2 points
    In point of fact, only one of those names played in the 1989 series I believe.
  47. 2 points
    Remarkable bit of typing bearing in mind you did it standing on your head.
  48. 2 points
    Proper Hull FC kit for 2020
  49. 2 points
    Barrow were relegated this year pal,is there 2 Newcastle's ?
  50. 2 points
    A poor crowd for an international event in Sydney? Colour me shocked.


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