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  1. 16 points
    I think the success that Australian Union has had on the international scene, where it has punched way above its weight for the size and status of the sport there, warps people's perceptions. They also tour the UK every year. Similarly the lack of Kangaroo games and tours on these shores in the last couple of decades probably makes people think the sport is smaller there than it is.
  2. 12 points
    Hi everyone, I'm Steve Bartlett, the General Manager of Rhondda Outlaws. I've been following this thread for a while and I think its great to see healthy debate about something as new and exciting as Euro XIIIs. I've decided to jump on now to offer myself up to answer questions because I can see there is some confusion around the competition and the motivation of clubs joining and I've also noticed some incorrect things being repeated and I don't want rumours to become 'the truth'. So, ask me anything. If I can answer I will. Some things are commercially sensitive (either for the Euro XIIIs organisers or the Rhondda Outlaws) and some things aren't know to us yet so if your question falls in to that category, I'll let you know but other than that, I will try to be as open as possible.
  3. 11 points
    Hopefully they'll create a stand which can accommodate people who are larger than midgets to sit down in
  4. 10 points
    I have to say it seems that you have pretty much missed the entire point of my post.
  5. 10 points
    I think this is right. When the Wallabies come over and play in front of packed crowds at Twickenham while we let the Kangaroo tours become a distant memory, is it any wonder that the wider public get the wrong impression of the relative size of the sports. It is not up to people to research how great Australian Rugby league is.... it is up to us to show them.
  6. 10 points
    Absurd. The corner flag cut down the field space in a way that does not exist anywhere else on the ground. It is an artificial obstacle. It was a great rule change that allowed athletes to flourish. It does show how great some of the try machines of yesteryear like Boston, Van Vollenhoven and Offiah were as with this rule they would likely have 10% more tries over their career.
  7. 9 points
    Hi Eddie, To understand our reasons for joining this comp, we have to go back to 2017 when we established our open-age mens' team. We started out with a group of men and about 90% of them had never watched a game of Rugby League before let alone played one. So that first year was all about teaching the boys the game. Then as we went in to 2018 we still had the same core players and they had a season under their belts so we were able to focus more on the technical aspects like attacking structure, tackle technique, etc. All the time the players were developing and improving and this ultimately led to us going the whole of 2019 almost undefeated (we lost away to Bridgend in the final round of the regular season) and were crowned Welsh Champions. Then in January this year we entered the Challenge Cup for the very first time. We shipped 15 tries against Barrow Island and it highlighted to us how much more we needed to do if we want to compete with the well established clubs in the heartlands. But the big challenge is that we don't get many games in the Welsh Premier so we are playing the same teams constantly and we only have a few months over the middle of summer. We have seen from when our players go off to represent Wales in the Welsh Dragonhearts campaigns at the end of the season that they come back much better players for the extra experience and game time. When we first heard about the Euro XIIIs it seemed like a great opportunity to get the additional game time and experience that our boys need for their development as well as helping to grow the club. The final reason for joining is simply because life is very short and so we shouldn't miss an opportunity to fly around Europe and play the sport we love and have a great party afterwards. I realise that is a very long answer to a very short question so in summary: We decided to join the competition to help develop our players, grow our club and enjoy the rare experience of going somewhere new and playing the sport we love. The great thing about this competition is that it is running before our domestic comp. We normally only get the lads engaged when they are finished with their Union clubs but next year they'll come to the Outlaws earlier for pre-comp training and friendlies and then after Euro XIIIs we'll be straight in to preparations for the Welsh Premier so its likely we'll keep the squad together for a full 8 months rather than just the usual 3. I would say about 95% of our boys are cross-code. We have a couple who focus only on League but because they only get about 8 games a year of League they are still very committed to the Union clubs where they'll get 20+ games. We are hoping if we can extend our season (by increasing the number of teams in Wales and through our involvement in Euro XIIIs) then we will see more and more of the boys focus on League throughout the year.
  8. 8 points
    To Catalans 2021
  9. 8 points
    I don`t think this Argyle character is going to satisfied until he has the Super League trophy, Challenge Cup trophy and probably just as importantly if not more so a World Club Challenge trophy in the Wolfpacks clubhouse.This guy wants to build a Rugby League powerhouse that can match it and beat teams like we saw on t.v. tonight. You Pommies should embrace it and develop your clubs to make it as much a challenge for him as possible , nothing but good can come out of it .
  10. 8 points
    Their landlords refuse to offer the club a percentage of the takings that go over the bar, since it is their fans that are putting up the money they are merely saying to the fans you can give us the money or give them the money, your choice. One of the first things Lenagan did when he took over was move the clubs admin out of the stadium, he reckoned the rents charged for their office space was excessive. Whelan always understood that you don't make money from a sports club but you do from a stadium, Lenagan also knows it also. Lenagan is applying pressure to get his club a fair cut of the money the fans of his club handover. Totally ethical, he is looking after Wigan rugby and their supporters, that is his first duty.
  11. 8 points
    I did all 60 questions for our charity's quiz night earlier in the year. As someone at the end said, "They were good questions, enjoyed the evening and I learnt a lot, but it'd have been nice to be able to answer one."
  12. 8 points
    How many cars can get around the only colour television in Featherstone?
  13. 7 points
    Prades is a very interesting place its the only town left in France with a reasonable amount of Catalan speakers I will drive passed it next week on my way to Mantet for one of my mountain hikes. Once heard a couple of old men speaking Catalan in a bar in St Esteve but sadly the language has pretty much died out in French Catalonia across the border though to here Perelada (Roses area) its 100% Catalan I also remember once attending a match between Carpenters v Limoux and heard Provence spoken again by 2 old men in a bar. Bit of a hobby of mine minority languages my oldest boy studied Scottish Gaelic for fun at school in Scotland and speaks it fairly well combined with English and Russian its a weird combination:) Bernard Gaush is a fluent Catalan speaker which is a great advantage for doing business in Barcelona for the Dragons. Sorry to have gone off topic a bit Paul
  14. 7 points
    The Italian Government refused to recognise Rugby League as a sport in Italy (similar issues still occur today) which meant there were issues in securing venues and insurance for players and teams. They were also prevented from using the word 'rugby' by the Italian RFU (hence they were called Federazione Amatori Italiani – Gioco di XIII) Whilst you might think that the Italian RFU didn't make any threats to players, former dual internationals like Vincenzo Bertolotto and Alberto Comin have spoken publicly about being told if they continued to play Rugby League, they would no longer be permitted to play Rugby Union as it was a 'professional game' (ironic as Amatori stands for Amateur). There is also documented evidence of this happening in other countries, including England, New Zealand, South Africa, France, Germany, Wales and Australia, so it isn't a long stretch to think that perhaps it could have happened elsewhere. Maybe Italians do like Union more than League, maybe League will never successfully establish a foothold in the country, but back in the 60's it certainly wasn't playing on a level playing field.
  15. 7 points
    It hopefully provides an opportunity for Wigan to purchase the ground.
  16. 7 points
    Bora da / Good morning, The application process was quite lengthy but pretty easy overall. There was an initial 'expression of interest' form that just required we provide some basic details of our club. Then followed a whole series of calls with the organisers to discuss the competition before we submitted the formal application. After we submitted the formal application we completed the non-disclosure agreement and then had loads more calls with the organisers where they were able to discuss some of the more sensitive and commercially sensitive stuff. We had to go through the organisers due-diligence process too. When all that was finished, all that was left was the horrible wait to hear if we had been selected. With the sponsors, we have always posted on social media asking if any businesses want to sponsor us but we've never had any responses for that. So the way we've always had to get sponsorship money was to go out and pound the pavements to find sponsors. This obviously limits the scope as we tend to target local businesses or businesses that our committee members work in. There isn't any major industry in the Rhondda these days so we tend to ask small limited companies or sole traders. The sponsors who have come onboard with us over the years have been amazing and very loyal which means we are usually confident we'll bring in enough sponsorship each season to cover kit, equipment and expenses. The big change we have seen since being announced as part of the Euro XIII competition is businesses approaching us directly (which will save my shoe leather) and they aren't all based in the Rhondda.
  17. 7 points
    Support your team through thick and thin. Where is your backbone?
  18. 6 points
    Hello. I was not ignoring your post here. Just giving the natural evolution of events some time to evolve. The recent few postings are exactly why I wanted this thread turfed into the by now ginormous Toronto Wolfpack one I spoke of. EVERY SINGLE TWP thread eventually spirals downwards into.....why don't TWP start an academy and develop from the ground up?...and/or....the TWP business model is not the way we do things in RL don't you know....and/or....all TWP do is sign-up ageing SL/NRL players looking for a final pay packet.....and/or...TWP and their principle backer (there are more than David Argyle BTW), have soooooo much money they are able to out-bid other teams for players - not fair....etc...etc....etc. I just get sooooooo tired of reading the same old stuff time after time from the same posters.
  19. 6 points
    They need to add more bears. That'll sort it.
  20. 6 points
    As the daughter of then club president Peter Gow, Elle Macpherson made some high-profile appearances at Cronulla games. Don`t know what it did for RL but it did plenty for me.
  21. 6 points
    why not open the pubs up from monday onwards? let things ease in gently during the working week- the decision to open back up on a saturday must have been made by terry fu""wit from viz
  22. 6 points
    I sort of suspect that too, but at least if the coach is prepared to sign 4-5 and give them game time against the lower ranked L1 teams then there’s a chance of finding 1-3 that could make it, if all you do is put out your best 17 against West Wales then you run up the score, but for what? I would prefer them to play West Wales with 4 Canadians in the game day squad and win by say 10-12, at least that way you are trying to really develop something.
  23. 6 points
    Shall we just assume that nobody's view of the Folau signing has changed and avoid another round of the same conversation.
  24. 6 points
    The BBC is to show every game in full from the men's, women's and wheelchair competitions: https://www.totalrl.com/bbc-to-show-every-minute-of-every-game-from-2021-world-cup/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bbc-to-show-every-minute-of-every-game-from-2021-world-cup Hopefully the WC organisers are pushing for this to include some BBC1/BBC2 coverage of the women's and wheelchair competitions as opposed to purely via the red button or online. No details yet of any international broadcasts or how they are going about selling the rights - needs to be shown in places like Greece and Jamaica.
  25. 6 points
    James Maloney has also confirmed he is staying put: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/james-maloney-snubs-nrl-return/
  26. 6 points
    While I love your enthusiasm, you must be the first person in history to be excited about going to any of those three places!
  27. 6 points
    i would never want to disrespect any of the foundation clubs or their supporters or the memory of all the people who played our great game . I`m just a ring-in from OZ who thinks that League could have a great future . If I can make the WC next year high on my list will be the RL museum. Can`t wait to visit towns like Wigan, Hull ,St Helens et. al.
  28. 6 points
    The general ignorance of rugby league in this country is vast, let alone Australia. As a Southern RL tragic, I almost feel like I’m in on a big secret where there’s this other, wonderful world of sport hidden from view.
  29. 6 points
    Those of us with no axe to grind welcome his informative contributions.
  30. 6 points
    We've had a lot of discussions with WRL around this. They are working with the RFL and RLEF and won't make any formal announcements until they've done whatever it is they need to do but they have confirmed we are free agents and therefore free to enter the competition as it doesn't impact on our domestic league at all. As we come under WRL, they are obviously taking a cautious approach and ensuring we are doing all necessary due-dilegence. So they are acting as a 'critical friend'. I can confirm we didn't go in to this with our eyes closed. Our committee has a few people who run their own companies and we are used to doing risk assessments and such so we were fully aware of what we were signing up for before we entered the competition.
  31. 6 points
    It's difficult to say. Right now we are focusing on increasing the opportunities we provide to play league in the Rhondda. At present we have the mens, womens, boys under 14s and boys under 12s sides going. We need to have an U16s as a minimum to ensure we have a pathway for the boys right up from U12s to Mens. We also want to replicate that for the women so we have girls U12s etc for them. We also want to be able to offer wheelchair, PDRL and LDRL in the future. Although we'd love to launch all them immediately, we know growth takes time and it's important to establish a side and then continue to nurture it until its truly stable so we'll only be introducing one or at most 2 new teams a season. As far as Euro XIII goes, we aren't really thinking beyond 2021. But whatever happens going forward, the focus for our club will always be on providing opportunities to the people of the Rhondda.
  32. 6 points
    (My bold and italics) That’s it, you’re going bankrupt. ?
  33. 6 points
    Careful now, asking questions will lead to you being labelled as negative. The answer to all of those questions is 'no one really knows'.
  34. 6 points
    One of the breweries is John Smiths though; enough to put any town on probation.
  35. 6 points
    Lets send on the bucket a sand too.
  36. 5 points
    Laurent Frayssinous to be confirmed tomorrow: https://forty20.news/ottawa-to-announce-head-coach-tomorrow/
  37. 5 points
    On the back of the announcement of Laurent Frayssinous being confirmed as the Ottawa Aces coach their are plenty of advantages for French Rugby League. Laurent has already spoken about the possibility of having their pre season training camp in France and utilising his contacts for player recruitment. I'm guessing here but I wouldn't be surprised to see at least another 7-10 french players maybe more sign for Ottawa which would increase the number of their players within a full time structure. Whichever level that is it can't be a bad thing for French Rugby League. Someone like Thomas Lasvenes would benefit greatly from being involved with Ottawa. Gonna be interesting to see how their recruitment evolves in the lead up to next season.
  38. 5 points
    I’ve never drunk so excuse my ignorance , but if you’re standing outside a pub at 6 in the morning you may need to seek help
  39. 5 points
    Just got back from Victoria University Hunters Vs Wainuiomata game. Wainui thrashed the Hunters 50+ - 0. Wainui were the top grassroots club in NZ and have won NZ club comp 3 times in the past... But NZRL don't don't run that anymore! Hunters are the only club in Wellington won Wellington comp 10 years ago but haven't been going to well in last couple years. Heard that reserve grade was struggling for number then covid hit so been scraped for a 10 team comp that wiil split into top & bottom 5 playoffs.
  40. 5 points
    Great news, really looking forward to seeing him have a full season in SL.
  41. 5 points
    Interestingly we have a lot of Aussies who come to Western Canada to work in the tourism industry (although obviously not now). They are your typical middle class backpacker kids and I have had numerous come into my store as customers (they like their liquor). From time to time I have struck up conversations with them, I only ever encountered one RL fan (she followed the Roosters), and if you used these guys as a benchmark you would think that the ARU is substantially bigger and more powerful than the ARL, and the NRL is merely a feeder competition to RU, so it shows how, with nothing much else to provide counter evidence (remember that until COVID the NRL was hidden away on a subscription ghetto channel) people can get a distorted picture. It just says to me that it is 1. Really important to have regular international’s and 2. Get RL regularly on easy accessible TV channels, even if that may mean a lower TV deal.
  42. 5 points
    I'm pleased to announce the launch of the official website of the Rugby League Record Keepers' Club, which can now be found at www.rugbyleaguerecords.com There's information about the RKC and our work, together with the principles of RL record keeping, and a status update on our project to share a statistical history of rugby league in the UK. If you want to know more, or are keen to join and support our work, please PM me for further information.
  43. 5 points
    The game needs assets. If the RFL are able to get that loan from the government for clubs, they should be banging on the door for loans to buy assets. Whether its Wigan or the RFL/SL. When assets like that become available. Buy them.
  44. 5 points
    I would argue that a lot of the links with the afro- Caribbean community have dwindled because of school participation as much as anything else. If you're not introduced to the sport at school it usually then relies on somebody having a family connection to it to encourage interest. Fewer schools are playing the sport in Leeds wherever you are in the city. Naturally this leads to less awareness and less participation. Couple this with the physical nature of the sport and you are already less attractive to all children (irrespective of ethnicity) when alternatives exist. The discussion in the thread about population sizes of cities and participation numbers is absolutely valid in my opinion before even bringing ethnicity into it. And as a bit of background I know the Leeds rugby league scene pretty well. My father taught RL in Chapeltown in the 1960s to first generation West Indian children. I have also lived in north Leeds pretty much all of my life (40+ years) and in that time there have been a tiny handful of amateur clubs that have existed, most of which disappeared again. Support for the professional side is strong here in north Leeds but grassroots RL has never been strong. There are two thriving union clubs a stone's throw from me. If that doesn't prove that RL struggles even in one of its strongest cities I don't know what does. Participation numbers are low for everyone even before the sport tries to attract communities who may have no ties to RL already.
  45. 5 points
    Yes mostly the same people will turn up each game sitting in their favourite allocated seat or standing in tfeir prefered place, perhaps not you (not a proper fan) stop being such an R'sole Scotchy you will soon come up with something to change theme.
  46. 5 points
    In my view : Challenge cup, championship, regal trophy, premiership, county cups. First two and second two probably pretty equally ranked but the prestige of wembley made it top dog.
  47. 5 points
    I don't mind answering questions. I'm really passionate about Rugby League in Wales so i'm always happy to talk about our club and what is going on with the game. We are expecting to see an additional 1 or hopefully 2 teams enter the Welsh Premier next season. Aberavon Fighting Irish have reformed and are all set to join and there is the possibility that Aber Valley Wolves (who run loads of junior sides) will put a mens team together in the near future. Our average home attendance at a Welsh Premier game last season was 100. However, our new home is situated on a really big estate up in Glyncoch so we are hoping we can attract more fans from there as they don't have any other sports clubs playing up there. Wales Rugby League (WRL) have also aligned the mens and womens fixtures for this season (whenever that will be) so we'll be able to play womens, mens and juniors games on the same day. This will allow us to make it more of an event and we'll hopefully see attendance figures increase. We are also planning on making entry completely free going forward. Now that we run our own facilities are costs are greatly reduced and we've had some interest from companies wanting to be Match Day Sponsors which will cover our costs. Again, we are hopeful that because we are right in Glyncoch and we won't be charging entry, we'll be able to entice a lot of new fans to Coed-Y-Lan field. Junior participation is dwindling all across Wales (and the rest of the UK I suspect) but numbers are still pretty good. We have 20 under 12s and 18 under 14s at present but the under 12s have only been going one season and the under 14s having played a match yet so we are hoping to see an increase in those squads. Aber Valley Wolves and Cardiff both see really good numbers and run 2 teams at each age grade so we are positive we'll see growth here in the Rhondda if we work hard at it.
  48. 5 points
    Many years ago, my Dad was looking after my children and took them for a walk. They went up to the bridge just as it was opening, my dad knew the operator and Dad and the kids went up into the cab . My son got to close the viaduct after the ship went through. At my Dad's funeral some 20 years on the same bloke asked my son if he recalled it Son said it was one of the big moments in his childhood.
  49. 5 points
    Making the flag in play is one of the best rule changes in a long long time, some of the tries are spectacular and people I know who don't follow league think the athleticism of them is amazing. It makes the game far more exciting. As has already been said, why should that one little bit of the touchline be any different from the rest?
  50. 5 points
    Because he schooled his Aussie gods, totally dominated their forwards from his first game to his last.


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