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  1. And I agree as well. The question was HOW are we to achieve it. That why I said is the threat of a breakaway sufficient to make them wake up. I think we are all of the same mind. But getting the powers that be to move from their entrenched position we need to take action of some sort . All the protestation in the world won't make a scrap of difference. A combined Championship proposal that 'treat us fairly or we are gone' might work. But we need SOME form of action or the clubs in the Championship are going nowhere. All the things mentioned, we protest about. but they happen anyway. So protesting is no good. Something stronger is required. The real question is have the Chairmen of the Championship clubs got the b......s to take a united front or are they split because there isa faint hope they might win promotion. Divide and conquer.
  2. Agreed- But what's the answer? We are still short of funds so what action should we take? Funds will not be volunteered without some action. So what is it. People spend plenty of time talking about the problem, the answer gets little press. Suggestions NIL.
  3. By breaking away I mean negotiating our own deals and having some autonomy. From what I have read there are quite a few clubs in trouble and nothing is being done about it. If this isn't the answer then what is? As cash flow is everything in any business the only other way is for clubs to cut their cloth according to their income. Perhaps they should all be doing that. The dangling carrot of perhaps a SL place or even promotion to our league may make clubs overspend. That is why a rethink of the whole situation is necessary. Perhaps in view of today's news we should all go to Leeds Carnegie. They seem to have no problem raising funds, kidding of course. What a complete and utter shambles. So called business men do not seem to have a clue on how to conduct themselves when it comes to sport. Whrtever the answer is the status quo wont do.
  4. Good question. I am not sure , but isn't it
  5. Terry, Just read that article. Nothing concrete in it in fact it sounded like a load of b....s..t and wishful thinking. I don't think he has any more idea that the rest of us. But as I said it is time we spoke in the Championship with one voice.
  6. According to the Yorkshire Post quite a few Championship clubs are in trouble as well as Keighley. I think we have to bother. If we just concentrate on Fev and other clubs go to the wall then we will have no league to play in. It is time I think for all the Championship clubs to combine in an effort to get a better deal. If one isn't forthcoming is it time for another break away? Ok we would have to renegotiate deals with the broadcasters and sponsors for income, but we would at least be our own masters instead of waiting for the breadcrumbs from above.
  7. Have we enough bulk upfront? Take Dickens and Tonks away and we seem to be lacking there. Also having met the PNG players I can't see Marabe being big enough for centre. He is a tiny fellow. Standoff maybe. Briggs to centre.
  8. You see though that industry do get grants for training purposes and irrespective of the players rights if a grant was made to clubs who take a player on to reach a certain standard (i.e. same as industrial training) that would maintain the players rights in law and the same time compensate the training club. If sport is an industry and subject to industrial law then some form of compensation should be coming to the training club. You are right though it is a problem, but there are solutions if the will is there. How about paying the club a sum for taking somebody off the 'job seekers'? The government make Sports Grants as we have seen. A slight extension of that principle could help the smaller clubs. I am fully in favour of the right to work where ever. I have been in order: a miner, a railwayman, a soldier, and a banker and unemployed as I am now (not surprising at 75). You might have a rule saying that if a player has been nurtured and trained by a smaller club then the bigger club should pay a fee to cover that. I know it goes down the line and therefore a Championship club would have to pay an amateur club if they take a player. But it would be fairer than now. No matter which job I had the people who paid me got their moneysworth that can't be said of the initial club in a player's career if hje moves on at an early stage,
  9. Sorry DMS. I never said a player should not be a free agent. What I said was that in the past we were compensated for his leaving. Old Rovers idea has merit. But if you think about it industry has never paid compensation (they might pay the employee if head hunting him) so there isn't a parallel there. In the past we did get a fee for the player going and my point is that money is now lost to the clubs. As it helped with new signings it is a big loss.
  10. Sorry, someone may not know about the Bosman rule. Whatever you think of mamagement to my mind the start was this ruling that was the killer. When a player comes to the end of his current contract he is a free agent and can sign for who he likes- and this is the killer- without a transfer fee. In the past we have brought youngsters along and they went then in the old days to bigger clubs. BUT we got a transfer fee and that enabled us to sign other players or give up and coming youngster a contract out of the proceeds. I have been since 1939 and we have never been a rich club. Our succes has beed built on the back of good coaching, up and coming players, and an influx of seasoned veterans of our choice. We can't do that now as the youngsters go without fee and so our mix to enable us to challenge the top clubs has gone. There is a lot wrong with the system but I feel the root of it all lies in this rule. Yes a player should do the best he can for himself in what is a short career but the club that nurtured and discovered him should be compensated at the time of the transfer and also later if the player gets international honours. That is what use to happen and made a better level of playing field. Now it needs, unless they abolish the Bosman rule, a complete rethink.
  11. So do I plus the Bosman rule. After that came in it killed the smaller clubs chances.
  12. Why should Robin have to have patience to answer a post that you obviously don't agree with. As far as I am aware we were having a discussion from different points of view. To dismiss somebody's argument offhand because you don't agree with it is also stereo-typed and also a generalisation. You don't agree so dismiss it. But then we listen to you. Give me the same courtesy. Is there an inner club that we are outside of, that decides what is right and what is wrong There are quite a number of points that Robin and Bob have made that are spot on. Others I didn't agree with. Does one have to have patience to give an answer? Sorry sir, this naughty poster will try not to disturb your patience in future.
  13. Seen them both. Jesse was sat down but didn't look that big. The other fellow is quite small. I am taking it of course that the two people I saw were the PNG blokes.
  14. I know there are some unfortunates but they are not all they seem. Reguarly in the paper shop I am behind unemployed people who buy forty fags and spend
  15. There are obviously some Cetic Crusader fans who have season tickets. The club to survive have to go to Wrexham. This then is a ploy to keep the brass paid and keep a team in the South of Wales. Everybody then is happy, or so they think. I have no objection to there being another Welsh club. But there would be two criteria. I. Celtic because of their abject failure and contravention of the rules drop a league and the other applications made at the time of their acceptance to SL be reconsidered and a new team promoted in their place in Sl. 2. The new team starts in division two of the Championship. That would mean SL and the Chamionship would have the same number of teams and Div 2 would have an extra team. That would be the fairest way to do it. I doubt that will be the outcome. There will no doubt be a bribe of some sort to let the RL get its way.
  16. Noted thanks Vic. Also got your PM. Will collect. Col.
  17. As has been said all of those, but they don't have to be great apart from the leader. A case in point was Eric Batten. He had in 1952 mainly a homespun team from our area. There were some imports such as Miller but they had been let had been let go by their teams as past it. Batten took hold of the team and molded it into a very strong rugby league team. They were fit and strong and believed in themselves because he made them believe. I remember going down to watch training just after he took over. NOBODY was allowed to touch a rugby ball until they were as fit as they could be. He could read a game and see players potential. He switched Cording from wing to stand off and incorporated Miller's kicking ability into his plans. Make no mistake the Wigan team of that era was every bit as good as any team now. He was the BOSS and what he said went. So in my opinioin a TOP NOTCH leader is 9 tenths of the game. Look at Reilly of CAS he used to beat teams on his own and he played with one fit leg. A leader to read the game and direct operations.
  18. I might be wrong but aren't all the amateur games and fixtures shown in RL Express. They cerrtainly give it a lot of coverage.
  19. Watched the Paul O'Grady Show tonight. Was lolling back in my chair just half my attention on it, when he introduced a RL item! A young kid had gone to the first England v Aussie game and was giving -RL- great plaudits. Well done youngster. He couldn't have been over 8. He got a signed ball and an Aussie shirt. He was so proud. That's more publicity than the hierarchy have managed in years.
  20. Thank God we live in a democracy Robin. All the major sports rely on Sky money now, hence the panic about the latest proposals.
  21. My apologies for the people who asked where I was. I have some new tablets for my diabetes and they made me really sick. I understand the alternative is blindness or a leg dropping off so I will have to live with it. Congrats to all who managed to attend what sounds like a great night.
  22. In my opinion RL would all but dead if Sky hadn't supported it. Ok we got a rough deal but overall the game would not have had the money put into the sport without Sky. A lot of the grumbles are parochial but you can only play the cards you are dealt. I have Sky and watch any cover that is given including Boots n All. Whatever your feelings if you are a RL supporter you will support the game in whatever guise it comes in. Taking your bat home achieves nothing but a bit of self satisfaction maybe but the end result is you go with the flow if you wish to achieve something. Grumbling from outside is a waste of time.
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