jim_57
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11 hours ago, Damien said:
More great crowds with every chance of setting a new round record with the Parramatta v Wests Tigers match selling well:
Sold out now, needs 26,430 to break the record that figure was incorrect. Unless a heap of members are no shows it should be a record.
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10 hours ago, eal said:
I think a Magic Round could be successful in Auckland if priced right, but I don't see all the Australian teams agreeing to move it across the Tasman.
Depending on what the Olympic upgrades for Suncorp involve they could get their chance. They’ll have some competition though, even though I think they’d be the next best fit after Brisbane.
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3 hours ago, rlno1 said:
I have no doubt there will be a second NZ team coming in, the stadium just enhances it.
You have to wonder if the respective stadiums are part of the reason 2 bids have popped up in Christchurch but no Wellington bid has come forward this time or since the 2007 bidding process.
Wellington is still a decent option and hopefully will get a team eventually but playing at an Oval isn’t ideal.
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2 minutes ago, stookie said:
I'm pretty sure it's reduced capacity though, while construction is ongoing?
Surely they wouldn't be allowed to be in the NRL with a 12k stadium??
@Sports Prophet didn't you say you were a sharkies fan? What's the story with the stadium capacity after development is finished. I did search online, but couldn't find anything definite. Also, I'm lazy.
I’ve asked around elsewhere and searched the internet and I’ve never got a clear answer on what the plan is or if there is one regarding the stadium.
I’m certainly no construction expert but it looks like they’ve boxed themselves in so not sure how much it could realistically get to with upgrades. Maybe 18-20k at best?
The NRL have purchased a hotel next door and V’landys has said he wants to help them get funding for an upgrade so wait and see I guess.
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14 hours ago, unapologetic pedant said:
In my view, NRL expansion strategy should prioritize mounting a stronger challenge in "rusted-on AFL States". As the most effective means of balancing any AFL joy in NSW/QLD. Storm are intrinsically solid, but their operation alone doesn't cut the mustard when juxtaposed with Swans/Lions/Giants/Suns.
Wider popularity in NZ and PNG won't really help the metrics for Oz media deals and sponsorships. The "National" RL can't afford to be an overall distant second in the nation of Australia.
There is room for both. Perth should surely get one of the next 3 licenses if it goes to 20, they probably should get 18 but the NRL seems set on PNG. Adelaide needs more work so are unlikely to get 18-20, but if it ever goes beyond that they’re a fair chance.
Assuming for a minute the next 3 teams are PNG, Perth & South Island that leaves Adelaide, Brisbane 3, Wellington, Sunshine Coast & Central Queensland on the table, even Melbourne or Auckland 2 depending how things play out.
Comparing to AFL. They will have 20 teams, all from Australia with much larger squads, talent drawn mainly from Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia with a handful from the rest. Based on that the NRL having 22-24 teams with 3-4 from outside Australia and drawing talent from across the Pacific with smaller squads isn’t unreasonable.
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1 hour ago, going for the corner said:
Grounds for experimenting though surely.
no double headers this year in Perth though sadly.
I think it’d be good if each of the 5 major capitals in Australia plus Auckland had an ‘event’ each year.Sydney has the Grand Final, Brisbane has Magic plus both get an Origin each. That leaves Auckland, Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide, one of the latter 3 will get the neutral Origin and Auckland should join the hosting cycle soon. The 3 of those that aren’t hosting Origin that year should get double headers at the big stadiums (Marvel/Optus/Adelaide Oval/Eden Park).
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11 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
I think what is great to see is that for NRL round 2, there really shouldn’t be any excuse for any team to host less than 15k fans except for Sharks and Dolphins.
Dolphins don’t have a good excuse either as far as I’m concerned. Round 2 V a high drawing team on a Sunday should never have been at Redcliffe. Locking out at least 15k isn’t the best move for a new club trying to build and maintain a Brisbane-wide fan base.
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1 hour ago, DoubleD said:
Not true.
2019: 18,2302022: 15,831
2023: 18,264
So they bounced back well last year but on a par with pre covid
That 2019 total has magic included. Their regular season average in Melbourne 2019 was 16,014.Hopefully they can get that even higher this year. Last year 2 games at Marvel/Docklands drew pretty good crowds to boost the average. Their average at AAMI will still their highest ever there I believe.
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2 hours ago, DoubleD said:
That’s a very good crowd for the Storm. Their crowds had noticeably dropped off since covid so good to see some bounce back
That’s not correct. Storm averaged 18,264 from 11 games in Melbourne last year (20,924 if you include Magic). Far higher than pre-covid crowds.-
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5 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:
he's not playing like I said
You said he wasn’t in the squad which hadn’t been name yet at the time.
He was named in the extended squad btw, could still play. More likely to start in NSW Cup though by the looks, named at 6 for them.
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9 hours ago, JohnM said:
Hmmm...let me think about that for the moment. Wemberlee - Las Vegas- Las Vegas - Wemberlee -
And the answer is….Both!
Well maybe not Wembley but somewhere in the 40-60k range could work for an NRL/SL double header. Play the same weekend as Vegas. The more big events the better.
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Mentions of triple header might point towards some English involvement next year. I think the WCC in Vegas might be the push, one more NRL team and some English fans to boost the crowd, “meet in the middle” type deal. While the NRL has an odd number teams the premiers can have the bye round 1 to make it work.
Personally I’d prefer the WCC in England followed by an NRL/SL double header in Manchester or London the same weekend as Vegas, the more ‘events’ the better.
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6 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:
dont think pryce has made the squad for next weeks opener
Not announced until Tuesday 4pm AEDT.Unless you’ve seen something that suggests he won’t play?
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50 minutes ago, The Rocket said:
Look the idea has merit, I just don`t think you`d want to dilute the travelling market by having them on the same weekend.
It would pretty much have to be on the “round zero” split weekend though, it would be a logistical nightmare trying to organise either mid-season.With different clubs involved I doubt you’d dilute the travelling market too much anyway, it should be a minor consideration at best IMO. The main goal would be to attract a lot of locals for each, the NRL wants new fans or “re-engaged” fans of these types of things. Providing more events for existing fans to attend is a side bonus.
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10 hours ago, JM2010 said:
Sounds like a good plan
I’ve been spruiking that idea for years
Now that the NRL has started the overseas games and split first round it’s a bit closer to reality. Timezones are an issue admittedly.
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2 hours ago, JM2010 said:
I’d actually like to see the NRL come to London and maybe even Paris. We could definitely piggyback on that to increase SL exposure in two of Europe’s biggest cities
NRL premiers + 1 other NRL team come to the UK/France. Premiers play WCC, other team plays Challenge Cup winner or just any big club really.Both teams then stay to play an NRL round 1 game as a double header with a Super League game, same weekend as Vegas.
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I’ve thought for a while a French “Magique” day could work. Pick one of Paris, Toulouse, Marseille, Lyon, Montpellier etc. Triple header Elite 1 game then Toulouse and Catalans playing English sides. Something like:
Carcassone V Albi
Toulouse V Leeds or Bradford (depending on which league they’re in)
Catalans V WiganCould do something similar in places like Newcastle or London really, play the local team as a curtain raiser to one or 2 Super League games.
Some strategy would have to go in to it to try and attract news fans though, how exactly is the million dollar question.
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Can someone explain how this hypothetical buyout would even work?
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4 hours ago, The Rocket said:
I can`t see how they could stop him if he is Australian and declares that he wants to play for Australia, even if it is only so he gets the opportunity to play Origin with his Qld mates.
Can’t happen now unless they completely change the rules for him. He would have been eligible for Australia on residency at one stage but locked to England for tier 1 now. Even if he had played for Australia he still wouldn’t meet Origin criteria, didn’t move over before his 13th birthday.
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22 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:
Does he meet U/12 SOO criteria? As an English centre, he wouldn’t qualify either I don’t think. Citizen or not. Great player. Happy to see him miss out on Origin and remain a great English centre.
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1 hour ago, Sports Prophet said:
Yes, Brisbane would be diluted if another team was added there. It is the actual definition of dilution.
Gosford and the Central Coast however is a different market from any of those 10 teams and has no club of its own, so does not constitute dilution.
In saying that, I understand where you are coming from. I just disagree that Central Coast is not a strong prospect, if that is what you are suggesting.
Unfortunately for the Central Coast being sandwiched between Newcastle and 9 Sydney clubs will mean they’re very unlikely to get an expansion team. They should be getting more games than they currently get though.Sunshine Coast would be a better bet if the NRL looks at any more ‘regional’ clubs. Although there will be strong competition from Brisbane 3 if/when the NRL wants another SEQ team, CQ will pop back up again one day too I’d imagine.
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5 minutes ago, nko11 said:
I really like the idea. But Timezones are going to make it difficult. Either going to have to play it at 10am UK time to suit Australian TV (8pm). Or play it at 7:30pm UK time and it be on at 5:30am in Australia.
Yeh that’s the sticking point, neither option ideal. 10-11am start for NRL followed by Super League game at 12-1pm could work. Not the most conventional time for Rugby League but other sports can start at those times and still draw a crowd.
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15 minutes ago, Spidey said:
Great to see them acknowledge that anything that's not Aussie domestic RL or State of Origin they need the English to make it a success
It’s an interesting quote, not sure if they mean the NRL involving Super League by giving them a spot in Vegas or encouraging them to play a game in America the same weekend so they can market Vegas to those fans.
Unless they plan on making Vegas a triple header I’d imagine it’s the latter.
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see them try an NRL game in England as their next attempt at games played outside of Australia/NZ.
NRL Premiers and one other NRL club come over, premiers play the WCC, other club plays another SL club that weekend. Following week (same weekend as vegas) have an NRL/Super League double header.
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Exciting Times in New Zealand
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Across the road from Eden Park. Wouldn’t surprise me if they look to take a game or 2 there each year.