usain bolt
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Wane went 3 props and a 13 on the bench v samoa first game, cant see him changing this tactic v a physical png team
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I think wane will go
1 Tomkins
2 Makinson 3 Watkins 4 Farnworth 5 Young
6 Welsby 7 Williams
8 Hill 9 Mcillorum 10 Burgess
11 Whitehead 12 Bateman
13 Radley
14 Lees 15 Knowles 16 Thompson 17 Cooper
18 Ackers 19 Mcmeeken
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My prediction is Tomkins gets a rest with Welsby moving to 1 and Sneyd at 7. Whitehead or Watkins being the other rested, with Pearce Paul in. I'd guess at Watkins.
1 Welsby
2 Young 3 Pearce Paul 4 Farnworth 5 Hall
6 Williams 7 Sneyd
8 Burgess 9 Mcillorum 10 Hill
11 Bateman 12 Bachelor
13 Radley
14 Ackers 15 Oledzki 16 Thompson 17 Whitehead/Watkins
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Are we feeling underwhelmed by the 19 wane has picked, or are we thinking wow, this is the team to get the job done, and could possibly win it with these lads
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1 Tomkins
2 Makinson 3 Farnworth 4 Watkins 5 Young
6 Welsby 7 Williams
8 Hill 9 Mcillorum 10 Thompson
11 Whitehead 12 Mcmeeken
13 Radley
14 Sneyd 15 Burgess 16 Knowles 17 Lees/Cooper
18 Lees/Cooper
19 Pearce Paul covering for Mcmeeken injury
I think he'll go with that, Williams has covered 9 before, and Welsby covers all the back line.
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I feel Currie and Clark are off the radar due to Warrington poor season, surprised mcshane not in either. Salford stronger finish to season has pushed 1 or 2 of their players ahead of others.
Due to minimal international fixtures, especially against the best, ie Australia, over the last few years, we'll not know if the players selected are good enough individually or as a team until its too late, ie the tournament has started. Fingers crossed theres something for us to cheer about
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Sometimes a bit of brilliance is needed, Connors last outings v New Zealand in the home series were excellent, forming a top partnership with makinson. Where did that momentum of that series fizzle out to. A maverick like Connor can be a winning selection or a dumb choice, but sometimes the gamble pays off, there's a fine line, but I don't think we'll see it this time around. Conservative seems the order of the day
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Hasn't Smithies pulled out of the knights squad, I'm sure there's at least 3 or 4 who've been replaced. Injured or tactical, guess we'll see when the squad is picked
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I also think Williams will be in his starting 17 also
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2 minutes ago, Davo5 said:
Your probably right but I wouldn’t have him anywhere near an England shirt.
Me neither to be honest, I just don't think he's at international standard. There's no zip from him at 9, but I think wane will go for, in his eyes, the safe option of who he knows
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2 minutes ago, DavidM said:
Yes that’ll be a big factor with him i think
Especially first up v Samoa, he'll want to set his stall out from the off, can't afford to slip up
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Just now, Davo5 said:
Team for first game V Samoa.
1.Welsby 2.Makinson 3.Farnworth 4.Watkins 5.Young 6.Tomkins 7.Sneyd 8.Oledzki 9.Leeming 10.Thompson 11.Radley 12.Whitehead 13 Knowles
14.Burgess 15.Batchelor 16.McMeekin 17.Lewis
I've a feeling mcillorum will start with leeming off the bench, wane likes his no nonsense tough customers, and looking at that pack you've selected it's full of them
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Just a thought, are we a stronger squad now or was it stronger in 2017, away from home in Australia, where we were inches from levelling up the scoreline at 6 nil down when Kallum Watkins was ankle tapped by Dugan in the final.
I guess only time will tell
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21 minutes ago, Welshleaguelover said:
I'm sure it'll be an unpopular opinion on here but might be a blessing in disguise to have no Lomax. He's been fantastic in Super League for a number of years but every time I've seen him play against Australia he just looks like a rabbit in the headlights.
Let's hope some of the less experienced youngsters aren't caught in the headlights, having not experienced international level rugby league regularly at the highest level, never mind playing in a world cup on home soil.
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Just now, graveyard johnny said:
never proved at international or nrl level - very overrated sl player wrong side of 28 now- would be eaten alive by munster and cleary -saints will hail him as a legend though - far from it
And that's exactly where England are at, lomax does a great job for the saints, but has he ever really been tested, test after test, series after series. To be fair, none of the current squad have, regular internationals against quality opposition find out and test the best. It probably isn't lomaxs fault, he just does his business for the saints anyway
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Just now, graveyard johnny said:
old mother hubbard had more choices than sean wane - we are really gonna pay for the lack of development and investment over the last decade in this wc
I hope we're both wrong and England as a team do themselves proud, but the lack of internationals, especially against Australian standard quality has pushed us back I fear. There just doesn't look like any world class superstar players jumping out that we've always had to win us the big games, too many mediocre players at international level
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Regular international matches produce and find out who are at international standard as players. Most of these in the squad are untried as a team, or haven't played together internationally for an age.
I wonder if the growth of the game international match wise has been discussed by img as a proposal or is a 2 legged challenge cup round their idea of expanding the game globally and a better solution for the development of international standard players.
Looking at the above squads being selected, the cupboard looks rather bare.
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He goes by the name of James Roby
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U20 Reserve Grand Final
wrong...
thatto heath v haresfinch, the hattons solicitors st helens cup final tues night 5th oct, 7.30 ko is the last competitive fixture at knowsley road.
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if its true im a little disappointed regarding Jake Emmitt I thought he'd done ok for a young lad. Plus it leaves Saints a bit light on prop forwards next season
Graham, Perry, LMS, Frodsham.... occasionally Puletua.
I'd be much happier reading Cas are in talks with Gardner/Meli/Flannery/Dean
occasionally puletua? even more occasionally frodsham,cant remember when he last played 1st team, or even put a shirt on!!
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The England fall-out squad so far is:
Tom Briscoe (Hull FC)
Jodie Broughton (Salford City Reds)
Sam Burgess (South Sydney)
Tony Clubb (Harlequins RL)
Jamie Langley (Bradford Bulls)
Andy Lynch (Bradford Bulls)
Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook (Harlequins RL)
Nick Scruton (Bradford Bulls)
Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers)
Paul Sykes (Bradford Bulls)
Joe Westerman (Castleford Tigers)
Kirk Yeaman (Hull FC)
who from this lot do you think will be in the final 24 man squad. a lot of just average super league players here for my liking. id say 3 or 4 at most. also whys widdop not been announced, melbourne arent in the play offs, an he looked a better option than some of the above.
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Jesus H Jones a man commits a tackle that could put another player in a wheelchair for life and you repeatedly create a thread about a half hearted kick to the shin. Totally pointless and a stupid thing to do but get a grip and talk some sense.
firstly the thread was repeated accidently, and i gather you condone kicking someone whether it be half hearted or not. i also dont condone spear tackles.
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joel tomkins kick on a player was deemed to be ok, not even put on report. will anything be done now the game has finished. remember keith mason got 3 matches for standing on fielden. is this offence as bad?
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ian millward had loads of success at saints as head coach and also had a head coach role at wigan, 2 of super leagues glamour coaching jobs yet only got a sniff over in austailia as an assistant coach. think it was at north queensland and canberra.
i dont think the aussies give much recognition to coaches who have done well in the english super league, daniel anderson being a slight exception, i just think they dont regard the english super league as being anything special.
England starting 17 for next week - Who would you pick?
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Thompson only came on in the second half, lees and cooper were first on for hill and burgess. I think wane will use the same tactic again, keeping the third prop fresh to lift us when the opposition middles are flagging. Thats why i think he'll go 3 props and Knowles again on the bench. He'll then use Radley as back up 9 when mcillorum is withdrawn. Tomkins, Welsby and Williams all jump in at 9 during the game to preserve mcillorum, Tomkins especially patrols round the ruck more than ever, and also kicks the ball as much as the halves