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I see. I think. Thanks.

Well, come on, with you being female, we don't like it if you play our games. I'm more patronising than you anyway, it's a genetic thing. Just go practice parking once you've finished washing up, ok?

There'd be a 3rd option in there, and we'd pick them. Or have I got it wrong?

This link shows how they worked last year, and I think it's the same this. Not sure if that "Club-call" thing is going to be applied or not. Top 5 was far easier and better IMO anyway.

I'll say, even without Wembley, the switch to Friday ruled me out, but after what I spent last weekend, there's an absolute no chance, Id need a lift to/from, free food/drink/freeticket. That will be more interesting than the score, I'll admit. I think we'd have a better chance at home, but Saints will take to the pitch the day after tomorrow knowing what they have to score to slam that door of hope shut bigstyle. Still, we're in the play-offs after Wembley, and we get 2 goes at it, best we ever achieved so far, so it's all positive, even IF OT stay 1 step away this time.

Daylight is rarely an issue with either Sheffield (or Shefield, as they were on the old Wilderspool scoreboard at first) or Leigh.

Well, if you'd headed to Aylesbury, and got a train from there.......

Probably stuck in roadworks.....

As an add on I read today that the football World Cup final had 85000 in attendance. Our game had 217 more. So much for it being a minority northern sport, eh?

I was sitting behind the punt, I got in with his spare tickets, tbh. I might have missed some of the start due to watching a rugby match, which was what I paid to do. It looked worse because of folks moving away, pushing folks to keep them away. Yes, there were a few phases, but not involving a great many actual participants. Didn't see the sad sight you also reported, and scolly, no, didn't see that either, due to watching the match.

It wasn't really, half a dozen max involved in a scuffle if anything, then there were folks standing keeping clear, or making way for stewards. Hardly a riot, or major outbreak of violence, just a drink fuelled minor scuffle, actually dealt with in a minute or 2, though it took a bit longer for those near to re-take seats etc. Pity it happened, maybe keeping drink away from pitchside would work, though that could lead to tensions in a drunken crowded bar at half time etc.

I take it you didn't watch. 24 tackles early doors in the Wire 20, we shut them out, that won it, defence. Then we had to break them down, step forward Lee Briers, behind a pack gaining dominance. Leeds also had spells in the second half, but by then the try they did score was consolation. We'd have preferred nil, but that's a big ask. Mclennan claims his side didn't freeze, Wires just out defended and dominated much of the game.(I think that was the Express where I read that) Other than Sinfield going walkabout, Leeds did what we let them, but it was no-where like the blow-outs at Huddersfield or in the semi v Catalans, where "game over" signs were up before half time. If Peacock had played, then the forward battle might have been a bit tastier, but it was still a a good game, which if not really in doubt, had an element of it when Smith scored. I'm sorry we didn't choke, which you love us doing, took great delight in it. We're winners now, get used to it....

A good few years back, I went to a Wires/Skints game at Wilderspool with a couple of workmates, they were from St. Helens. I was a bit apprehensive, I'd be wearing my Dessie top, and in with the opposing fans. There was a scuffle, stewards flying in etc, and it was Skint v Skint arguing over Aussie players in the team.... Me? Stood there laughing at them.

Damn that Jack, his beans, at that feckin big plant he grew.... BTW, 74, Murphy did pull a trick or 2, I've watched a tape since I grew up (honest, I have...) and we certainly played the ref as well as Fev. 1 try a side v Widnes, discipline cost us, and THAT dg was a real gut kicker. But been discussed loads of times before, however, if you want a definition of "gamebreaking moment", that's the clincher.

Most of us Wires fans are loving our spotlight time, but the timescale from being "it's nice they won something at last" to being resented has been cut very short, and for only 1 reason, which I fully understand. The "ignore" button was invented for him. Or for us other folks, anyway.

Look Wezza, you're close enough to get decent action shots, but can't put them up now, which just has us all thinking "photoshop time" to make them fit. 1 picture, no matter where taken from means nowt, could be first blow, or retaliation. Or goading/response, you know what I mean. I had my camera at the game, but didn't take photos of the scuffle, not into happy slapping, so watched the pitch in the main.

So did Richard Branson, when Virgin sponsored Broncos and led them out at Wembley, where's he now? It really is, so what happens now? time. As a Wires fan, I'm really worried this is it for top flight London rugby. Had some great days out there when opportunity arose, and other than 75 and 90 in cup finals, never been to London to watch a defeat.

I know, another Wembley highlights link to be added tomorow, if this piece of dog egg of a pc lets me. Maybe I could lose the record run too, now you've smashed it?

Well, Lee Briers couldn't go on the pi$$ for ages, as he was pulled out for a drug test. Tony Smith had a right rant about that, it's on Sporting life and BBC rl sites. De-hydrated players asked to urinate on demand, maybe he has a point. However, I digress. Wires to Old Trafford. Game 1 v Skints. Anyone else see a problem here? Home or way, it's most likely a defeat, even if we rest a few on Friday v Quins. So, we go "sudden death" and assuming we clear the next hungry side from below, really we need Wigan to have lost their first game to give us a better chance there. Knowsley Road away twice? Sorry, I don't believe we can do that (yet) Skints at home twice, maybe we could sneak 1 game at last, but in this "run" of cup glory, there's 1 big noticeable team we haven't played, and the heavy monkey is still there. Maybe it is our year, but I think really 2011 is a better option. Be nice to be wrong, mind....

Well someone did in the beginning, and a team in Paris. It really is up to the powers that be, who-ever REALLY pulls the strings what happens next. Makes no odds what we say here, "they" won't read this and say "goldcard's right, we should change names and move to Luton as London Hatters" or anything. And from what I read into the BBC report, it IS a question of how deep the RFL's pockets are now. I really should stop trying to type so quickly, I'm a van driver ffs..../edit.

True, but some are a challenge that take skill, ability and commitment. Your defence, however....

I'll admit to being a non Mathers fan, but he was very good yesterday, and Brett seems to be on the later stages of his career, and is also being more closely watched by defences now, kind of "Jamie Bloem" all over again, sensation at first, then everyone watched for him. I'm a bit unsure, but suspect moving Ritchie on could be a mistake come the business end next year, though when the announcements were made thought it could be ok... Yeah, you heard it here first folks, I'm pretty much on the fence.

As a teen, I watched when I could, and really wanted to pull the primrose and blue on. As I played, it was obvious I wasn't that good, but I then wondered, before my knee went, if maybe second tier second team could be my level, but I didn't get to go ask for a trial anyway on a whim, my doc said retire (at 19!!!, didn't last but I'd lost too much fitnes/edge by the time I played again) I guess being from Warrington, or Wazza for the Sport readers on here, it's more ingrained, if you love the game it's want you want to do. London is a whole bigger ball-park, and with real access to venue issues.

Their version of the Wigan Walk, the Leeds Leg-it. Also called the Rhinos' Run-off. I've also witnessed the Bradford ######-off, and (many) years ago the Saints Stroll. It's a mile off topic, but I felt for the Leeds players, going to salute their fans at the end, to find they were already on the M1....