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  1. Barry Cryer was a very funny guy and a fantastic comedy writer. I remember listening to him read his autobiography and it was really funny. "I left the stage to the sound of my own feet" is his verdict on his early comedy routines in Soho. 

    He also used to go to Odsal stadium when younger....to watch the speedway though, not RL. 

    RIP indeed. 

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  2. I was watching The Big Match revisited on ITV4 last night and I noticed Billy Bremner making his debut for Hull City v Charlton in October 1976. I'd totally forgotten he played for anyone but Leeds United.

    Fans invasion at the end reminded me of what it used to be like going in those days. 😬

  3. 10 hours ago, Padge said:

    You can be taught how to construct a drawing, most people just go flat out to creat something the can see or have seen. There is a reason you will see artists hold up a pencil to the subject, they are measuring, they translate the measurements to the page. A little simplified but it is all about following some basic rules and not just looking and drawing.

    That does not mean that some people can't just look at something and put it straight to paper.


    I know all that! I have looked into this many years ago. The main driver was wanting to be able to paint stuff on leather jackets and seeing artwork on records etc by guys like Pushead (you won't have heard of him) 

    I knew a couple of actual artists so got a few tips. They included things like tracing things and then trying to replicate it, doodling shapes before turning it into more of a drawing. I still was never gonna be able to draw - and it wasn't a burning desire as such, so I just accepted defeat. No big deal really. 

  4. Snooker. 

    I saw a young lad on the news the other day who had won a game in a tournament at age 15. He was from Huddersfield?

    Anyway my point is that I had a friend who was really good at snooker, won all the local tournaments etc and decided to try and go pro. Joe Johnson was still playing then, so it was a bit back. His dad offered to bankroll him so he could give up work and concentrate on snooker full time. 

    He was a good player (to our eyes anyway) but when he tried to mix it with even the lower ranking pros, (or very good amateurs) he found he wasn't up to scratch. After a couple of years he sacked it as he knew he wasn't going to make the grade. 

    This kid must have that something extra. 

  5. 4 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

    That’s interesting and a similar situation for me where I’ve always had friends in bands too.  I have a guitar that does fine work as an ornament in my front room!

    I found the finger-work on changing chords very difficult as I am double jointed, so instead I used to act as a roadie because I really wanted to help my mates out when they played gigs.

    Sometimes in the recordings and rehearsals I’d be asked my opinion during the creative process or I’d be given the bass and be asked to do something very simple.

    I felt like part of things even in a minor way.


    Ha ha, yeah I was always there at rehearsals so forth 😁

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  6. 37 minutes ago, Maximus Decimus said:

    As somebody who has ran a lot over the years, this is probably what I'm comparing it to. When starting from scratch, it usually takes 3/4 runs to shake off the cobwebs and be able to manage a 5k comfortably enough. Then as long as I run consistently and mix it up a bit, I will improve to the point where I plateau and to improve any further I would have to take it more seriously. Just before lockdown I was seeing a running coach once a week and he was able to suggest some little tweaks that I took on board. 

    The difference for me is that with something like running, as long as I keep up the routine I won't get worse. However, with skill-based hobbies like golf and darts I can start going backwards. I'm still in the process of working out whether this is natural or a particular mental issue I have. 

    As a teacher, I've done things on growth mindset and part of this is the idea that when learning something new you suffer a dip after the initial enthusiasm has waned. We obviously teach the need to keep going at this point. I do wonder whether it is something similar to this as well.

    I used to run and went from totally  useless to doing a 5K in around 25 mins, which I personally was happy with and quite impressed. But I found I just couldn't get better than that and due to iffy knees I had to stop. But even if they cleared up, I doubt I could get past a certain level. 

  7. 50 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

    I tried too and got better at it when learning how to use basic shapes like squares and triangles while sketching things like human outlines.

    The results weren’t fantastic but a great improvement on my attempts to do everything ‘freehand’.

    Ultimately like music, I didn’t have the dedication to get the kind of results I wanted.

    Yep again a similarity here. When I was 16-17 or so, loads of my mates were in bands and I thought I'd get on board too. I had plenty of people willing to teach me a few basics but the problem was (and possibly still is) that I broke my arm twice growing up (same arm, same spot) and really really struggled to manage even very simple chords due to very little dexterity. And I mean, basic. So I eventually gave up the ghost. Similar story with drums, could do ok but just not enough endurance due to weaker arm. 

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  8. 10 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

    I think it’s true that anyone can learn basic techniques that improve drawing skills.

    I used to think like you do on that subject until I tried myself.

    There are techniques that are similar to the way we learn to read and write building slowly one stage at a time.


    Understood but I have actually tried. I had to sack it and just face it, I could never draw. It's possibly a gene thing.... either way, not gonna improve from something a 5 year old would be embarrassed about. 

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  9. 12 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Coming up this spring my band Oil City are playing at 

    Friday March 18th The Blind Pig Sowerby Bridge 

    Saturday 26th March The Victoria Newsome Huddersfield 

    Saturday April 2nd Sally Brown’s North Parade Bradford

    All welcome

    a home town gig for @Mumby Magicand @Johnoco


    That's a new-ish Ska/punk/etc venue. Had a pint in there and it seems decent but not seen any bands. If I aren't working, I will pop along. 

  10. For this thread, it's irrelevant whether he was an anti vaxxer or not. Many vaccinated people have died of/with Covid but that doesn't prove anything. 

    If you liked someone who has passed away, comment on here. If you didn't like them or possibly want to have a dig at their views; don't. Put it in the politics section. 

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  11. 4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

    *insert Joke about Scarborough having lots of ex cons being housed there*

    There is a Rangers pub on the main hill in Scarborough iirc.

    It is a good point you make though as people sometimes don't realise how wide the base of the LUFC fanbase is. Its particularly relevant to this discussion with it being hard to draw direct relation between the crowds for the football club and RL club.

    Not to mention areas like Kippax or Garforth etc etc which, while still Leeds postcodes I think, doesn't automatically mean they will support LUFC.

    Skipton has a Bradford postcode and there aren't swathes of Bradford city fans there for example.

    I used to work in Scarborough for a few years and they call people from West Yorkshire 'Wessies'.....as though it's like London or something. 😆

  12. 1 minute ago, Eddie said:

    Halifax, Huddersfield, Oldham and Rochdale too for me. I’m not sure about Barrow, but would love to know more. 

    Yeah I was once on the train to the GF and a load of Rochdale FC supporters got on. When they noticed a lot of RL fans they started mumbling to each other about the RL side 'damaging our pitch'. So yeah, they can go in the black book too.

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  13. Just now, Tommygilf said:

    I always find it hilarious for my Trin and Cas supporting mates who say "we all hate Leeds" etc. on a Friday night watching their team Vs Leeds who suddenly become the world's biggest Leeds lovers on Saturday afternoons at Elland Road...

    I live in Bradford. But the number of Leeds United supporters I know is completely ridiculous. Absolutely loads just in my circle of friends, dozens - and they mostly slag #### out of Bradford City too! Most have supported them since the early 70's through thick and thin, so are pretty dedicated at least. 

    I also know plenty of lads from Scarborough who support them too. There seems to be a big bunch of Leeds and Rangers fans in Scarborough oddly enough.

  14. 9 hours ago, nadera78 said:

    I get the point, but actually see it from the reverse angle. I've lived in Singapore for 2.5 years now, where drug use happens but is contained to private settings. On my two trips home to London in that time, the smell of weed was ever present; from middle class residential streets to council estates. And you only have to go to a football ground to see loads of men - of all ages - coked up to the eyeballs. Drugs use is open and it is brazen, and everybody seems to simply accept it.

    I'd agree completely. I used to take a bit of drugs when younger so aren't pointing the finger morally. But you wouldn't have dared brazenly smoke a joint outdoors (unless maybe in a remote field perhaps). Now I see lads strolling past the big police station near me openly smoking a joint. I remember people getting sent down for being caught in possession of a joint!!

    And coke? Once the preserve of Eric Clapton or Freddie Mercury is now common as dirt. 

    Nobody can convince me it hasn't increased massively because I remember what it used to be like. 

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