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  1. 1 hour ago, JohnM said:

    It's a serious issue and should result in some rule changes, playing-style changes, etc. These are inevitable. Just wait till arthritis is brought into the equation, too. The harm done to knee, hip, elbow joints and vertibrae through impact visits people in later life and have serious consequences. 

    A faster, much more open and skilful game can be just as entertaining as seeing a full back running straight into a gang of big lads, as Offiah, Boston, Van Vollenhoven, Preston etc have shown.

    I reckon most people would like to see both skilful players and also a bit of brute force. A bit of balance if you like.

  2. 52 minutes ago, tim2 said:

    This is true. But it's already a different game to the one that people watched in the 1980s, 1970s, 1960s...

    It may be saved as a contact sport by reducing contact training (do players who have been playing for 10-20 years need tackling practice?), even lower tackles and going back to 5m defensive lines. It is likely to become very different but possibly more skillful. 

    Yes, fair comment. The game has probably changed very much since the 60's or 70's. But I think the difference is that it did so sort of organically (for want of a better word) So that the headhunters and so on were seen as things from a bygone era. Not too many people will complain about that.

    But having the threat of litigation hanging over it if a player gets injured in circumstances A,B or C could change the game too quickly. I hope I'm wrong. 

  3. I think people are arguing that liking the physical side of RL makes you some sort of caveman but it's not so.

    Rugby League is without doubt the most physical, toughest sport on earth. Remove the elements that make it this...and you simply have a different game. 

    This is purely an observation, not a 'bring back the biff' argument or anything like that, just a fact. If RL is changed to be less physical, then it will be a different game. Hey, who knows, it might be still great.... just not the same game.


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  4. 10 minutes ago, Griff said:

    Other business grants ?   If you owned the ground - which few do these days.

    Reduced costs ?  Well, yes, which is why we should play less games.  My point entirely.

    For instance, If you were operating as a business (before covid kicked in, so no just starting one on the hoof) you could get a £10K grant. Whether you ran a pub or a corner shop. One guy I know bought a new Merc with his.

    Free gratis and for nowt. Other types of business help was available too. 

    Its rather like asking why did people on low incomes manage to save money during C19? Not because they had more coming in but less coming out. 

  5. 49 minutes ago, Forever Trinity said:

    Sorry I disagree with you here, firstly as a Wakey fan and living in the same district and council as Cas to say they should pull there finger out is down right rude. The politics locally with the LA etc has been a disgrace to say the least, Cas have a programme lined up at Glasshoughton but of course with everything in our district its all very complicated.

    However allowing you to justify your post what exactly should Cas, Wakey and any other clubs you are implying that are in unfit stadiums do then?

    I don't know because it's not my job to know what is involved in building a new stadium - but it is somebody's, so ask them. 

    And I aren't implying anything, grounds like WR or Belle Vue *are* unfit for the 21st century. 

  6. 7 minutes ago, cookey said:

    Unfortunately, that is not the view of broadcasters or sponsors, they simply dont want to be associated with the place in 2021. It's not fit for third rate ferret racing.

    Whilst I agree with you that they should have pulled their finger out and sorted it years ago (as should all other clubs in unfit stadiums) they often have packed crowds that, despite other things, looks good on TV. I’m not sure a sponsor or broadcaster would prefer they cover a 5K in a 25K situation.

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  7.  Bradford City lost 3-0 in the FA Cup at Exeter but the game was 0-0 after 90 minutes, so obviously they conceded 3 in ET. 
    Now though Exeter are under investigation as they used too many substitutes (6 rather than 5) and one of those came on for ET. The game could either be forfeited or replayed. 

  8. It’s a serious dilemma because although we love to see the skilful parts, we also love to see the roughhouse stuff (I’m not talking about dirty play) It’s what sets RL apart from other sports IMO - war minus the bullets type thing. We can watch soccer if we want skilful players or basketball possibly for quick hands or something like that…..but they aren’t RL and I aren’t sure it would be the same game without the gladiatorial aspect.

    I say that as someone who doesn’t play and can totally respect anyone who didn’t want to do that for a living, I’m just pointing out what is possibly inevitable.

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  9. 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

    n fact I don't even think parking is that bad frankly. Its a suburban area with a few parking controlled areas but there is still loads of places to park that don't.

    Parking is pretty bad in Headingley. Yes there are some places but they are either residents only or occupied. 

    All in my experience of course. 

  10. 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

    In my experience (mainly of international cricket), its people who don't know the ground too well that get off at Headingley. You always get some confused faces from people staying on the train when 70% of the train empties at Burley Park on matchdays.

    No you must assume that a load of RL fans from out of town will be well versed in minutiae of local timetables. Get off at Headingley and it's a short walk up the hill (if you can call it a hill) Absolutely no dramas. 

  11. 5 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

    England cricket games aren't just all Leeds based folk. The option of trains and buses are plentiful.

    I didn’t say it was impossible, just a bit awkward for newcomers to the area. But I would definitely say the majority of cricket fans either live fairly near-ish or have been there before so know the area a little. 

  12. 1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

    Burley Park and Headingley. I thought you said you knew the area?

     Yeah but I was specifically talking about the one called Headingley. If you were coming from Lancashire or my side of Bradford on a train -and didn't particularly know the area- you would probably get to that stop and get off. 

    Unless you wanted to go to Burley Park. But then, who does?

    And I aren't from Leeds. Luckily enough. 

  13. 14 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

    It does for 15k rhinos fans at once and the cricket. Plus it has plentiful amounts of regular public transport both to the city from all over, and to Headingley from there.

    Yeah…. Perfectly true but that’s mostly people who know the area or live close enough to walk or bus/taxi. A load of non-locals looking for non-existent parking spots in Headingley could be a real problem. I know parking places within reasonable walking distance but not everyone will. 

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