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  1. Further news relating to Pacifique Treize: Solomon Islands Rugby League endorse bid: https://www.asiapacificrl.com/2020/07/02/solomon-islands-rugby-league-announces-support-for-pacifique-treize/ Second Training Day in Noumea:
  2. Further news relating to Pacifique Treize: Solomon Islands Rugby League endorse bid: https://www.asiapacificrl.com/2020/07/02/solomon-islands-rugby-league-announces-support-for-pacifique-treize/ Second Training Day in Noumea:
  3. Firstly, I was talking about Rugby League in the 1960s in Italy, not more recently, because that was the era you were speculating on. In the 60s, the Italian team in League we're all (or at least over 90%) Italian born and bred players. There was definitely no Australians. There was also definitely no Government funding or recognition back then. As for more recently, there is nothing in the CONI reports for 16 / 17 / 18 or 19 which says any funding has been given to RL, yet they seem to list out the other sports...
  4. The Italian Government refused to recognise Rugby League as a sport in Italy (similar issues still occur today) which meant there were issues in securing venues and insurance for players and teams. They were also prevented from using the word 'rugby' by the Italian RFU (hence they were called Federazione Amatori Italiani – Gioco di XIII) Whilst you might think that the Italian RFU didn't make any threats to players, former dual internationals like Vincenzo Bertolotto and Alberto Comin have spoken publicly about being told if they continued to play Rugby League, they would no longer be permitted to play Rugby Union as it was a 'professional game' (ironic as Amatori stands for Amateur). There is also documented evidence of this happening in other countries, including England, New Zealand, South Africa, France, Germany, Wales and Australia, so it isn't a long stretch to think that perhaps it could have happened elsewhere. Maybe Italians do like Union more than League, maybe League will never successfully establish a foothold in the country, but back in the 60's it certainly wasn't playing on a level playing field.
  5. The respective Cricket Boards from Russia, Netherlands, France, Italy, Denmark, Romania, Spain and Germany all have seats on the board of the European Cricket League. All 8 of them are full ICC members as well. Honestly, whilst the intention of the ECL and Euro XIII are very similar, the approach taken are very chalk and cheese. When Daniel Watson launched his idea, he took it to European Cricket International (their equivalent of the RLEF), got their approval to take it to the respective Cricket Leagues (on the provision it didn't create a 'competing' product to their existing competitions, such as the European Cricket Championship or the proposed EuroT20 Slam) and then got Russia, Netherlands, France, Italy, Denmark, Romania, Spain and Germany to all become board members in the tournament. Whilst the ECL has since added teams from outside of that mix (ie. England, Scotland, Wales and Belgium were all planning on entering teams this year), it has made sure it has sought approval from each of the respective bodies along the way. From a staffing perspective, it has been different as well. Roger Feiner is the tournament's CEO, and well Roger was FIFA Director of Broadcast from 1999 - 2002, so naturally has many TV connections, plus on the board they also have Frank Leenders and Thomas Klooz. These two currently (as their main job) head up media & marketing for FIBA, helped with the re-brand and re-positioning of the UEFA Champions League back in the 90's and also help promote Eurovision in select markets on the side. Naturally these are three pretty well connected individuals, especially when it comes to trying to sort out a TV deal / broadcasting. Unlike Dean, who unfortunately would be coming in at the ground level, these three would most likely have personal contact details for the decision makers at most of the major broadcasting companies across Europe, simply due to the profile of the sports they have worked with. Next, the teams taking part are not new teams, they are all the respective champions for the various domestic leagues and finally the last key difference is, they actually play the tournament in 1 location over a week. Naturally a far simpler approach to an event. From a logistical side, it is only a few grounds you need to sort out, from a marketing side, you only need to promote a few locations and you're promoting to the same market, and from a broadcast side, the TV truck doesn't need to move around, which instantly brings down the cost of broadcasting.
  6. Austria is expected to have a team, which ticks the Northern Italy box In terms of costs, honestly the biggest variable in costs will be how much of the originally discussed TV deal comes to light, and what obligations the tournament has to sponsors and governments and if there will be any marketing. Arguably if the draw is 'fixed' and 'local' opponents are picked, at least for the first round, this will reduce travel costs, however you'd argue there would still need to be accomodation costs (arguably the night before and night of) to give teams a legitimate chance of competing, and not forcing them to travel and play the same day, so I don't see them getting away with much change from the earlier estimate of 10K per game, especially as it gets to the later rounds and teams are forced to get on a plane (and you throw all the over 'essential costs for running a game') But yeah the variables above is where the costs can blow out... Broadcast costs arguably range from around 1K-2K for something like a decent FB Live Steam, to closer to 25K for anything a TV network will show, whilst hospitality & catering costs for sponsors, etc, can quickly rack up, especially as some clubs play at venues which don't have corporate facilities (so suddenly you have marquee costs, etc). Marketing, well again, this could range from nothing to thousands, depending what is and isn't done. Anyway, I guess we will see how this unfolds as the tournament approaches, unless these are items either Rhondda or Anadolu are able to elaborate on (although I expect the respective NDA's they have signed, if this has been shared, is protected under those).
  7. I won't lie, it is nice to see Rugby League back in Moldova.
  8. It certainly would make this mountain of a project slightly easier targeting only active and established clubs versus brand new entities and I agree with you that it would arguably help raise playing standards quicker. Considering the claims of how many teams showed interest in joining (over 50 wasn't it?) then sure there must have been some more established entities in the mix to consider.
  9. Whilst I do have plenty of concerns around things like funding and management of this competition, let's assume that Dean Buchan has deep pockets and is happy to underwrite the whole thing, and in addition pay the respective broadcasts costs for the games for a broadcaster to pick up (whilst no TV company would pay for this competition, plenty would take free content provided it is up to a certain broadcast standard) and that logistics, venues, insurance, referees is all covered, my question is, why are they over-extending themselves so much? Where they could have just had one draft, they've announced at least four (US, UK, Australia, Italy) and based these across three-regions. Where they could have settled on stronger clubs across Europe, they have picked a lot of clubs who have either not played in 12 months or are completely new / reformed such as: Dublin Blues - Reformed after years of no activity North Brussels Gorillas - No games for over 18 months, Budapest - No games for over 18 months Anadolu XIII - Brand new club Birmingham Jaguars - Brand new club Throw in Valencia who only have one game to their name, that's 6 of the 10 clubs named with very few runs under their belt and with talk that 4 of the remaining spots will be filled with a new Italian club, and then teams from Portugal, Moldova and Austria, it is really adding some extra pressure which they could have minimised. Same, where they could have left it at 8 teams and done something like played it over a week in a central location to keep costs down, etc, they doubled the number of entrants and it will have teams flying across the continent over four separate weekends. And where they could have simply presented this to the RLEF and got sign off months ago, they went their round about way. And just finally, where they could say 'this is big enough', they are still recruiting clubs and still looking to add a Women's competition to run in conjunction. Now these are all hurdles which can be overcome, but wow, talking about adding pressure to one-self. Considering where we are at with 'European Development' competitions, they could have still impressed everyone with a whole lot less and taken a bit more of a 'Minimal Viable Product' approach to it all. Naturally, each to their own, and if Dean has opened up the cheque book, then he can arguably do with it whatever he wants, but this does feel a bit like what happens when you get too many excitable people in a room together brainstorming, and there is no one there to ask the question 'why would we do that?'. T I hope they can make it work, and that it doesn't turn into a logistical clusterf#!k in year one which kills it all off, but it will be hard work for them and I certainly hope Dean is going to put a few people full time on the payroll to help try and manage this, because they'll need it.
  10. Story about the Pacifique Treize in Sunday's Courier Mail.
  11. For the Home Nations to be a serious competitive force, they need to be treated seriously first. Outside of the World Cup year, everything about the Wolfhounds, Bravehearts and even Dragons unfortunately screams amateur or unprofessional. Fixtures are scheduled as late as humanly possible, matches are played in often tiny grounds with only a few hundred watching, there are no 'development camps' or other gatherings leading in, the coaches of the national teams are rarely even mentioning anything until the regular season is over. There is no regular marketing or even data gathering to build the very few 'home tests' these nations play. It's no wonder that when it is time to play, some of the top players, who are eligible for the side, are reluctant to play. I mean, what are we providing the players as incentives? Money? Nah can't afford to pay the players Crowds / Audiences? No, sorry A chance to connect with their heritage? Doesn't appear that way A chance to showcase their skills? Doesn't really help established players, emerging, yes, but established, not really Compound this with the fact we can't even necessarily tell you who you'll play or when, I'm sure many players just put it in the 'too hard' basket. These three nations, plus France, should just pretty much form an agreement that for the next 4, 8, 10 or so years, they'll play each other, regardless of whether there is a World Cup, European Nations, Qualifiers, whatever... At least if they had 3 Tests guaranteed and locked in, each and every year which they can use to sell to players, sell to governments, sell to sponsors etc. Maybe they can get some sponsorship dollars, or get a grant from the RLEF/IRL and do some promotion, and build some crowds... Honestly, why can't Wales v Ireland somewhere in Wales get a crowd of around 10K? There are over 2.5K participants in Wales between clubs, schools and universities, which gives you a pretty solid base to start with. You then had 62K attend matches in Wales in the RLWC (8K Wrexham, 3K Neath, 45K Cardiff, 6K Wrexham Semi), sure not all of them were Welsh fans, but still it's a pretty solid database to be marketing out to... Suddenly if these games look a bit more professional, have a bit of a crowd and are locked in, I reckon you'd start to see players more inclined to turn out for these nations. You'd possibly find England would be more willing to play them as well. Sure it won't turn them into a Tonga, but it would make them more competitive than they currently are. Unfortunately for Wales, Ireland or Scotland to become a real competitor to the top tier nations, they have to grow their player pool and that takes investment. Arguably a bottom up approach would be best, but even if they suddenly created Academy teams and High Performance Units at all the junior ages and tried to push the top talent into the English system, it would help.
  12. Brisbane is extremely unlucky to be coming up against Manly after last week's game. Whilst I'm sure the Broncos players will be wanting to make up for last week's disaster, they are facing a very good Manly side who will be fuming that they lost last week (debatable whether the forward pass was the decider in that). I'd expect the Sea Eagles to win 20+
  13. The International Rugby League should not be abolishing any versions of the game in my opinion, whilst yes it should have it's primary focuses (ie. 9-a-side and 13-a-side) and only be investing in those focuses, it should be welcoming all variations of the sport, especially whilst the sport is still so new to so many markets around the world. Rugby League has shot itself in the foot by not being inclusive before, hence why Touch Football and Tag Football are separate international associations, and in most markets, separate governing bodies. If the game had embraced them before, we'd be a far larger sport and would already be qualifying for the likes of Sports Accord, etc Whilst League Sevens isn't hugely popular, Sevens is still played in emerging markets (just like some have played sixes and 10's). Whilst the IRL does not need to formalise these variations, they definitely shouldn't be 'abolishing'. FIFA and ICC both support many different variations of their sport, especially outside of major international competitions, so we should be open to supporting that as well, especially when we need as many participants as possible, and they are still playing a version of Rugby League.
  14. The fact the club won't be admitted to the Intrust Super Cup until 2023 at the earliest is another reason it would be targeting younger players. A 25 year old now would be 28 when Pacifique Treize hope to take the field, which unfortunately for many people is a bit too late to be making one's first grade debut.
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