Wellsy4HullFC

The RFL makea profit, but they spend as much of it as they can on other parts of the game. If they earmarked some money for this over the years, then it would pay for itself with increased revenue from bigger gates and lower costs. It's an investment that would directly pay back. Apart from first one,the rest isn't really the RFL's job to fund, and wouldn't really bring them much back in terms of direct money. It's just them throwing money at projects that won't be giving them money back directly. With their own stadium, they'd. Be getting more money from events that they can then use to fund better projects over the years anyway. I would like to see the RFL being more effecient with the money they use as well as maximise its turnover in order to be able to fund further projects. Sometimes you need to specualte to accumulate. If we keep doing what we're doing, we're going to be standing still on the event front for a long time.

When Elland Road is redeveloped then hopefully it will be a nicer and sparklier stadium. There's a lot that needs doing to it. It's going to most likely be a smaller version of Old Trafford in the way it's being redeveloped. And why would Brammel Lane be any better than Elland Road for Wigan/Wire? It's further away isn't it? I disagree. Why is it a necessity we play at Wembley to be taken seriously? How many other sports play their national games there? Did we get taken seriously before when we used to play there? Plus, when we play World Cups over here, it can still be used. How many games do we play there? Hardly a stadium to represent the sport!

It depends on how many events you hold there as to how people would see it. If it is a significant number, then people will more likely see it as a home for RL events. Otherwise, I'd agree with what you're saying. To me, it's just like a football club sharing with a Super League club but on a larger scale. I disagree. We've been playing internationals up north for a decade now. How many England/GB gameshave been played in the south? GB vs NZ in 2005. That's it. So we're not exactly exhausting all our options aroundthe country. Rather, just switching between the usual mid-sized 25k stadia of SL. I think if the RFL had a base for events, then the stability and familiarity generated would help improve crowds more than just chopping and changing venues. I'd love to see us return to 70k+ crowds at Wembley for internationals, but isit going to happen? We could still use it for the World Cup I suppose. The WCC suffers greatly as an event because you only find out a few months before where it's going to be played. We know where the GF and CCF will be played every year, so why not the same for the WCC? If advertised and marketed right, then people will be buying tickets all year round rather than waiting to see if the two teams are attractive enough for them. I disagree. I don't see how it would be perverse at all. Is it any different from a sports club taking its bigger games to a bigger stadium than their home ground because they can't fit them in? Quins at Twickenham and Saracens at Wembley for example? And what I've proposed won't change that. Unfortunately we only have 2 games that regularly get above 40k (and well above it at that). We need to start building our events to these levels, but because we constantly chop and change the venue and only announce it a few months prior, we don't get a proper chance to build these events up.

Leeds City Council are the ones looking for funding apparently. Part of their bid to be a host city. They are the ones that will receive economic boosts from hosting the games, so they will want to make sure it's possible and secure funding.

Now I agree with you there. The fixtures for that weekend should be: Saturday 4:30 (Battle for 4th-6th) Hull vs Leeds Catalans vs Huddersfield Saturday 6:45 (battle for 2nd and 8th) Harlequins vs Warrington Saints vs Castleford Crusaders vs Hull KR

With England looking to get the FIFA World Cup for 2018, and a redeveloped Elland Road to be one of these stadiums, would it not possibly be a good idea to try and latch onto this development? From what I gather, the stadium needs more funders for its expansion. The RFL have had some good success at Elland Road (despite it being a dump at the moment). It's right in the middle of the heartlands. If you keep the two major finals (Challenge Cup Final and Grand Final) where they are, we could use the New Elland Road as a base for international games, World Club Challenges, maybe even have the Challenge Cup games there as Magic Weekend-style rounds. I think RL would benefit from a base for its major events. The RFL could offer season tickets for their events there which could boost attendances for our major games all-round. Would only be worth doing though if we could get a certain amount of events there per year, and so far I can only think of: World Club Challenge Mid-Season Test Challenge Cup 5th Round (MM-style 8 games in two days) Challenge Cup QF (4 games in two days) Challenge Cup SF (Double Header) Championship Finals Day 3-4 End of Season Tests

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It's not going to be the last game at KR so it's not the worst thing in the world.

Not true. If you finish in the top six, you are guaranteed at least one home game in the play-offs. If you finish 3rd or 4th, then although your first game will be away, your second game is guaranteed to be at home (win or lose). If you win, home game in week three. if you lose, home game in week two.

Maybe we should start matching players up anthropometrically to positions at a younger age and push them for them positions. We need taller wingers!

Because offside is in relation to the pitch, and forward passes are in relation to the player. With offside, you can tell where the ball is in relation to the pitch because that player is stood on the pitch. All you need to do is see if the other player is stood behind him by working out how close they are to the nearest line. With forward passes it's not so simple. If the camera is at a different angle, the pass looks hugely forward when in fact it could be backwards. The players are often not on the ground when these things occur (like when there is a chip to the corner and it is passed in the air, etc). And that's before we even bring in the momentum rule, where it's nearly impossible to work out the momentum of the ball before it is passed and whether that has affected why it has travelled forward. We need HawkEye technology for that sort of thing!

Last league game at Knowsley Road. Should get a fair few viewers. Pleased the Hull game's been moved. Couldn't make it on the Friday because of Leeds Akkies annual end of season dinner. Now I can! Woohoo!

Where to begin...! Do you honestly think you deserve a license ahead of Bradford? I know they're in a slump at the moment, but they still have better crowds, a bigger and better stadium, more juniors playing regularly and currently sit higher in the table than Wakefield. And at least Bradford are trying to do something to get fans back in to the stadium. All Wakefield are doing is drawing pictures. Why bother with them? The same reason we bothered with Catalans (who you acknowledge are good for the game). RL is more than just a northern game. You've not even given Crusaders a chance before casting them aside. They've had a really good start to life at Wrexham, andthis couldget even better next year for all we know. They could be the next Catalans. ParisS actually knows quite a lot about RL. It's a shame he/she chooses to ignore certain things in order to be an attention seeking wind-up merchant.

I know ParisS speaks rubbish, but speaking rubbish back won't help.

Reckon Rovers will beat Crusaders, leaving Hudds to play Cas. That's 4 pretty big games there. 3 local derbies and the two biggest clubs in the league at the moment in the 4th game.

How was that not double movement?!

Just realised they signed Lee Smith this year anyway, so no doubt he will be reverting to the wing on a permanent basis once Donald has gone.

Why don't they use the Crusaders model? (OK, it's hardly a model, but here me out...) Move the franchise to another ground, and leave a semi-pro club in its wake. So if they move to Oxford, than Harlequins Rugby League could start again like South Wales Scorpions and build from there. It's a way to keep the interest that was generated (however small) and if there is potential, then no doubt it can grow from there. There doesn't need to be a pro club in London IMO. There needs to be one in the south to take advantage of the player development going on there, but it doesn't have to necessarily be IN London.

Who will replace him? He's been a pretty good signing for Leeds. Didn't rate him at first but he really built a new for himself in the end.

Lobby + Bradford/Odsal rant = scratched record. Give it a rest. You made your point. Few agree. Get over it.

Not too bad an idea, but like has been mentioned, the problem would be when the SL champions would play Catalans in the extra game (and where). Would certainly make the weekend a lot more interesting. This would work well if SL was 15 teams (the 15th team being the SL champions, and they'd play the NRL champions that weekend so everyone is involved).

So, we've no Tansey, Calderwood, Whiting, Horne or Long? Wow, we're looking VERY thin in the backs! Who the hell is gonna play full back?! Please tell me not Craig Hall?!

Four Nations scheduled for 2011. You're thinking of 2012.

Well, it "should" be on a blank weekend, with the entire season being brought back early for it. BUT... "Round 1" 2011 - February 11-12th "Round 1" 2010 - February 5-7th The opening games (Cru/Leeds and Quins/Wakey) - January 29-30th So the first round is a week later than this year's first round, and two weeks later than the unofficial first games of the SL. How the hell is that gonna work out?!

Can't go for goal from a pentaly for a scrum offence.