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Exiled Wiganer

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  1. We have 8 predictably “strong” sides: Oz NZ Eng Fiji PNG France Samoa Tonga - for the next world cups at least so could see Samoa and Tonga at the top table. France missed out but were in a hard group, and Lebanon’s current mix is strong this time round (but there is a big risk that it won’t be in the future…).

    Of the others I like what Wales is doing (and bear in mind they could have Knowles and a couple of good NRLers of England hadn’t nabbed him). But after that it’s a stretch to see what we’re trying to achieve for a lot of the rest. Tbh, I would be inclined to ask them, and hear what they make of being thrashed: has it helped or not?? If they’re making progress then stick with what we’re doing, if not work out a plan B (eg 2 super groups and 2 groups from 9 to 16). The people ideally placed to comment are yue countries being thrashed… 

  2. I was taking a quick look at the 95, 2000, 08, 13 and 17 tournaments, and a few things struck me: 

    - this is the first time the groups have all had to stand on their own 2 feet, with no super group, no fancy formulae and no group matches between 2 of the big 3;

    - this is the first one in only one country, as opposed to giving non host nations home games;

    - the vast majority of crowds have been within “expectations” with the first exceeding them and the rest being ok. And that’s with the “high” prices. I would say that there have been 2 catastrophic crowds in Hull and Warrington; 

    - we are going into the business end now, and may get 5 out of 7 competing games. If the organisers are to believed the semis and final are selling very well. We could get 420/430 by the time we’re through (we sold out OT when we didn’t make the final last time), especially if England win next week. 

    plus, and this is huge for the future: we have 3 other world cups running alongside this, with likely record NH crowds at all of them…

    (and the RLWC team had had to cobble itself back together after last year’s crushing blows).

    In attendance, viewing reach, width of participation and I assume gross income terms everything I have seen has been encouraging. If the IRL gets a decent return then that will flow into Wales, Serbia, Scotland, Ireland and so on. 

    in terms of raw enjoyment I would so far place it behind 2013 but at least on a par with the others (95 was invisible), and well ahead of 2000. But maybe that’s a problem with nostalgia - you should never go back. 

    success? It depends how you look at it… 

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  3. Just now, Tommygilf said:

    This is true, but its not entirely fair to set it up as simple as that.

    St Helens bid for games, but the RLWC shouldn't have awarded 3 games there, along with 4 games at Warrington, 3 at Leigh and another at Wigan. Just as the RLWC shouldn't have awarded games to both Newcastle and Gateshead for example.

    I have bid for lots of things in my life, and never once have I done so without taking responsibility for delivering the thing I bid for. There is fault on a number of sides, but the bidders must share it. 

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  4. 27 minutes ago, Griff said:

    If I got my roof repaired without running it past the insurance company for approval, I wouldn't think I had too much to complain about if they didn't pay out.

    Still, the facts are sketchy at the moment. We await clarification.

    She's a lawyer, you say?

    It’s exactly as Martyn says above. 

  5. 5 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

    That goes beyond comprehension Paul, but what else can be expected from an organisation that puts 10 games in an area that a big blanket would cover in a 2 week period and expect bumper crowds at each game from more or less the same clientele.

    They gave the games to the people who bid for the games. No one forced Saints to host 3 games - that it was clearly beyond them is on them. Newcastle made a far better fist of the games they bid for, with far less to work with. 

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