Exiled Wiganer
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It’s a good watch. Brazil are digging in, but class will out.
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I would go with 16/17 of the Newcastle team with Bateman for Lees. They looked so good, and the balance in the side is so grooved because they can all play up tempo Wane ball (with Radley as Lockers) in their sleep. Under pressure, that familiarity with the structure is a huge advantage for us.
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We have 8 predictably “strong” sides: Oz NZ Eng Fiji PNG France Samoa Tonga - for the next world cups at least so could see Samoa and Tonga at the top table. France missed out but were in a hard group, and Lebanon’s current mix is strong this time round (but there is a big risk that it won’t be in the future…).
Of the others I like what Wales is doing (and bear in mind they could have Knowles and a couple of good NRLers of England hadn’t nabbed him). But after that it’s a stretch to see what we’re trying to achieve for a lot of the rest. Tbh, I would be inclined to ask them, and hear what they make of being thrashed: has it helped or not?? If they’re making progress then stick with what we’re doing, if not work out a plan B (eg 2 super groups and 2 groups from 9 to 16). The people ideally placed to comment are yue countries being thrashed…
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JT transforms Tonga, and they should have enough to crack Samoa.
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I was taking a quick look at the 95, 2000, 08, 13 and 17 tournaments, and a few things struck me:
- this is the first time the groups have all had to stand on their own 2 feet, with no super group, no fancy formulae and no group matches between 2 of the big 3;
- this is the first one in only one country, as opposed to giving non host nations home games;
- the vast majority of crowds have been within “expectations” with the first exceeding them and the rest being ok. And that’s with the “high” prices. I would say that there have been 2 catastrophic crowds in Hull and Warrington;
- we are going into the business end now, and may get 5 out of 7 competing games. If the organisers are to believed the semis and final are selling very well. We could get 420/430 by the time we’re through (we sold out OT when we didn’t make the final last time), especially if England win next week.
plus, and this is huge for the future: we have 3 other world cups running alongside this, with likely record NH crowds at all of them…
(and the RLWC team had had to cobble itself back together after last year’s crushing blows).
In attendance, viewing reach, width of participation and I assume gross income terms everything I have seen has been encouraging. If the IRL gets a decent return then that will flow into Wales, Serbia, Scotland, Ireland and so on.
in terms of raw enjoyment I would so far place it behind 2013 but at least on a par with the others (95 was invisible), and well ahead of 2000. But maybe that’s a problem with nostalgia - you should never go back.
success? It depends how you look at it…
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I was reminding myself about 2013 and they had a couple of things in their favour which we don’t. France and Wales both played home games and they had a super group.
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The Wire crowd looks good to me. I am sure I have seen sparser crowds there for Warrington games. The only disappointing crowd so far this round was the shocker at Saints.
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23 minutes ago, Midlands hobo said:
Correct, and the oh well technically it wasn't in the world cup so not our problem attitude will dissuade the rest.
I am not sure the point you’re making. The facts have been set out by Martyn above.
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Am I right that this is the first World Cup in which the big 3 are all in different groups?
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Wow! Tonga! Ours is the most unforgiving sport. Good crowd figure. The Cooks are better than that. Lovely people.
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Just now, Tommygilf said:
This is true, but its not entirely fair to set it up as simple as that.
St Helens bid for games, but the RLWC shouldn't have awarded 3 games there, along with 4 games at Warrington, 3 at Leigh and another at Wigan. Just as the RLWC shouldn't have awarded games to both Newcastle and Gateshead for example.
I have bid for lots of things in my life, and never once have I done so without taking responsibility for delivering the thing I bid for. There is fault on a number of sides, but the bidders must share it.
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27 minutes ago, Griff said:
If I got my roof repaired without running it past the insurance company for approval, I wouldn't think I had too much to complain about if they didn't pay out.
Still, the facts are sketchy at the moment. We await clarification.
She's a lawyer, you say?
It’s exactly as Martyn says above.
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13 minutes ago, Skinnywinger said:
Lol cos you're going to stay sat in the corner when there are a thousand empty seats for the picking on the half way line.
I have stayed in the seat I have paid for plenty of times. It’s your choice what you do.
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What’s terrifying is that her side has been given the oxygen of publicity, and that even people who might be inclined to hear Ireland RL’s side have swallowed it whole.
I would like anyone on here in similar circumstances to go to Harley Street and stay in a 5 star hotel, and see how much sympathy they get. It’s a disgusting misrepresentation.
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32 minutes ago, Chris22 said:
I must confess I did this at Australia v Italy last night. Perfect view right on the half way line.
That’ll show the suckers who’ve paid £70 for the benefit of the international game.
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Looks and sounds great.
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3 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:
5,006 in attendance by the sounds of it.
Neither triumph nor disaster. Looks and sounds good enough to me.
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4 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
If that first game was played at Elland Rd or The Etihad or Old Trafford, I would have expected a bigger attendance than that at Newcastle.
Well that’s more than Elland Road’s capacity, so I think it’s unlikely. You are aware we are using the other venues for the semi and the final?
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Just now, Gerrumonside ref said:
Newcastle had England-Samoa didn’t they?
Yes, indeed. Which got the biggest crowd in RL history for a game not involving 2 of the big 3 nations.
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On 28/10/2022 at 17:44, The Future is League said:
Perhaps from little acorns. We can only hope
Play an international in London every year. It’s where the biggest market is.
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5 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
That goes beyond comprehension Paul, but what else can be expected from an organisation that puts 10 games in an area that a big blanket would cover in a 2 week period and expect bumper crowds at each game from more or less the same clientele.
They gave the games to the people who bid for the games. No one forced Saints to host 3 games - that it was clearly beyond them is on them. Newcastle made a far better fist of the games they bid for, with far less to work with.
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The Cedars are very easy on the eye. They will turn up next week.
Hope Jamaica digs deep.
Decent turn out from where I am sitting.
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It’s not too bad at Saints. These 4 games have exceeded my expectations. And was very good at Newcastle. Who saw a very good match, with beautiful singing.
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They announced 18,750 iirc. They also announced it was the highest ever RL crowd in Sheffield.
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Tue 1 Nov: Women's RLWC: Papua New Guinea v Canada KO 17:00
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Really good game. I like the Canada kit. As role models and leaders in their nation, the Orchids are a very big thing. There’ll be millions of happy PNGers after the last couple of days.