Just Browny

What were the skills he showed yesterday? Variety of ways of ####ing someone in the head?

Who are 'we'? I've always believed that, at the point we admit a club into our league system, they should be part of 'us' as much as Batley or Hull. And it is on RL Commercial to secure a good deal for Super League from us having a French presence. It's no more Toulouse's duty than it is Huddersfield's.

Featherstone is hosting the BARLA National Cup final today. Brighouse v Orrell, should be a good one. Sadly probably with a greater profile than yesterday's international. To their credit, Featherstone make their ground available for all sorts of games, all year round. Cheap and cheerful.

Imagine how good Tonga will be down under though.

Yep you could just email the slides to the lads down under. But they'll miss out on Last and Briers dressing up as Anni-Frid and Agnetha and lip-synching to Waterloo.

Mid-season catch-up, slideshow on Agincourt/Waterloo, job done.

Hard agree. I haven't seen Young in the NRL all year but based on GraveyardJohnny's appraisals I was expecting 2002-series Karl Pratt to turn up. Like Farnworth and Smithies, it stands out like a sore thumb that Young plays in the NRL because he runs and tackles with a bit more swagger and conviction. Some of our SL players look just slightly in awe.

Pair of belters those. Way too many lilac/pink/luminous green away kits in SL this season so pleased we've gone for the red and black, which is a colour scheme we've used a couple of times before.

I don't think there's a combination of players available to Wane that wins this series. The players he brought in today improved on their equivalents last week; Smithies and Watkins were both really good, Oledzski and Brimson were improvements but not telling ones. The starting forwards set a far more assertive tone this week than they did last. Lees played better than I thought he was able to; McMeeken was a handful. I don't put our inability to score soley down to the halfbacks; there was a lack of variety to all our attacking play and some of that has to be about the runners as well as the halfs. That said I'd like to see Lewis play at 6 next week. Williams toiled today and it didn't work. I don't think Lewis makes a massive difference but he's worth a try. Playing him on the bench to bring on for ten minutes just made no sense.

'Excuse me mate, have you got Sky Sports 17 for the rugby league?'

Not sure if there is an Everton thread. The main bowl of the ground is fantastic, truly brilliant views and the atmosphere was superb. Certainly a fitting theatre for a test match. There are a fair few things to sort out though. The signage was poor, almost apologetic. Fine if you go there week in week out, unnecessarily difficult if you are going as a one off. The toilet blocks are poorly designed and seemed extremely inadequate, leading to some fairly ugly scenes where I was of enormous queues and people getting very angry with people who were trying to push in. I can't believe there would be so little stewarding and crowd support for a football match and that hasn't helped. The transport has been absolutely tragic getting to and from Warrington, and as I write from Lime Street it still looks like a warzone with a series of tiny trains leaving with barely half the people who wanted to get on managing to. Considering Northern Trains are supposedly a major partner of RFL, it's embarrassing how unprepared they are. It's been a good day but unnecessarily painful.

It's mental. Shaun's 'proper rugby league fans' might be turning up at 4.

Sorry posted this in the wrong thread!

Spotted you today in town, didnt realise you'd been stood up.

Very much so. There's never a guarantee a good academy team develops into a clutch of SL standard players, but winning the academy GF having gone unbeaten all season suggests this is good a chance as you can have. Ewan Irwin already looked the part in that first team game against Rovers towards the end of the season.

Yes I didn't mean to have a go at Thewlis, he has proven to be a decent backup winger and deserves his extension.

Warrington retained: King, Stone, Powell, Crowther and Jake Thewlis. A pretty uninspiring quintet. Out: Tai Not in: Pangai Junior.

It's always 'jam tomorrow' with Tonga and Samoa. We've beaten them easily in almost every meeting and would again.

Chuffing Wire, trying to buy the league, no youth products, always their year.

I think we are agreeing really. Trout is passable as a second rower and if someone got injured I'd be happy with him slotting in there. But if the plan is that we need to have a backrower on the bench to do 40 minutes in the backrow, I'd pick someone who is an out and out second rower to do that.

I'm happy with Trout but now think it can only be as a prop, not second row. His contribution on Saturday was short and forgettable: get him in the mix or don't bother. I'd have Watkins in and hope he could deliver a few offloads as he has all year for Leeds. If he does, back him up and give the Aussies a bit more to think about.

So you're saying Williams' 118m against Australia stacks up well against Lewis's 110m game average for the season (175m v Cas, 164m v Hudds, etc). It was 7 missed tackles for Lewis, 3 for Williams btw.

Fortunately, as well as any lateral running, he managed to progress 118m with the ball, compared to Lewis's 68m. If you want to run your 'Williams was a turnstile in defence' line again, I'll be happy to pull up the stats on that too.

Griff, please tell us you were involved in planning this fixture setup. There cant be any other reason you would bat so hard for a system that is clearly a bag of s**** and will be binned off after one season.

It was released from the hands forwards. It was one of those slingy passes with the outside hand that are incredibly hard to throw backwards. It was forward by all the measures.