Rob
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Just to be depressed, An RFL figure attacked for trying to do their job and promote the game. Again.
It is an open letter, not a strategy document.
He is a non-executive chairman, not an officer.
It is his opinion and response to the negativity that is damaging the sport's reputation.
The fact that no one can accept his letter for what it is, with people instead condemning him for things he has not said just illustrates how big this problem. The response from journalists resorting to ridicule and acting like they should be beyond question is the most arrogant and depressing thing. I want Barwick and Wood looking for sponsors and building up the game, not constantly having to fight the constant tide of unconstructiuve attacks that make their job more difficult.
Tony Hannan said in response that "if you are a journalist & you 'talk it up' then you ain't no journalist. You're a spin doctor. Aim for the truth" If he thinks that the truth can never be positive then he ain't no journalist either. If he thinks knocking something down you disagree with is journalism and not spin doctoring or yourself then he ain't no journalist.
(And just how boring must Tony Hannan's match reports be that he could never praise a game or a player because that not be journalism but spin doctoring. Just a load of technical statements saying someone passed, kicked, or tackled, with no description of how good or exciting any of them were.)
The biggest problem with rugby league reporting is that the line between journlism and editorial is blurred to the point of almost non-existance. Whatever someone thinks of, say, the 2x12 3x8 proposal is not journalism, it is opinion. Journalism is saying what it is. Journalism is investigating why it is being implemented, by whom, on what basis, what support it gets, how will is be judged, what analysis has been done for and against it. Journalism is saying what should be done instead on a factually researched basis. Saying "this is not good", saying "I think we should do this" is not journalism.
Just to be clear, Sadler's editorials are by definition meant to be opinion and not journalism, but for that reason they are also no more relevant to the overall debate than anything posted on this site. And just as he gets to use his prominent position to express his personal opinion, then Barwick has every entitlement to respond. And in a perfect world he could do so with the likes of Chris Irvine mocking him for it, but such low expectations we have of the games biggest enemy it understandable he has to new find ways of further diminishing his own credibility.
Absolutely spot on.
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It says here
http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/8805376/steve-menzies-announces-retirement
"Menzies, who won the first of his 15 caps for the Kangaroos in 1994, spent 16 seasons with Manly Sea Eagles before coming to Super League with Bradford in 2009 and is expected to return to the club to embark on a new career off the field."
Does this mean he is expected to return to Bradford or Manly?
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Yeah, I noticed the lack of coverage too. I emailed the Editor the following, a couple of days ago, if more people did maybe something will happen? I do apologise for the opening bull****, but I didn't want to appear too narrow minded.....
lysanne@bskyb.com
dateWed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:01 PM
subjectSky magazine
mailed-bygmail.com
hide details Sep 29 (2 days ago)
Hi Lysanne,
I've just received my Sky magazine, as usual a reasonably good read.
I was a bit surprised though when scanning through the sports 'October highlights' section on page 12, that one of your keynote sports events in October doesn't even merit a mention, namely the engage Superleague Grand Final on October 2nd.
Instead, the recommended sports viewing on that day is Hearts Vs Rangers - I understand that soccer is our 'national sport' (much to my dismay) but I cannot understand why such a fixture (Hearts' average home gate barely scrapes over the 10,000 mark) would be in the 'highlights' over the dramatic climax to the rugby season to see which team will be crowned champions in front of 75,000 plus sell-out crowd at Old Trafford.
And, later on in the month, I don't see any mention of the four nations tournament either!! I presume that Sky have at least some of the rights to the four nations tournament, though the deafening silence in October highlights would appear to indicate otherwise.
I think my preferred sport needs a fair crack of the whip!
Yours disappointedly,
Rob
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How about ones you've been to since they've demised?
I'll start off with...
Quay Meadow (You'll have to be a real RL geek to know this one)
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This is the most obvious move for the international calendar and needs to be done now! 2012 can put us back on a four-year cycle of Ashes series. We cannot fit in the every two years that we had in the past but can alternate venues every four years - promote the event and make it really special. It can also take place between GB and Aus to add that extra nostalgia.
It simply has to happen. There will not be another opportunity like this in the International calendar for a number of years. I also love the four nations and WC concepts and all three can have their place in the calendar
2011 Four Nations - UK
2012 Aus v GB (ASHES) - Australia
2013 World Cup - UK & France
2014 Four Nations - Australia
2015 Four Nations - UK
2016 GB v Aus (ASHES) - UK
2017 World Cup - Aus & NZ
2018 Four Nations - UK
2019 Four Nation - NZ & Aus
2020 Aus v GB (ASHES) - Australia
This is so simple it is untrue and everyone is happy. Imagine Aus v GB at the Sydney Cricket ground for the Ashes in 2012 - awesome. Some things just need preserving and sticking to!!
The whole Ashes concept can take on a new role with a new coach (or existing coach having to apply) and captain separate from England. It would also give the players who play for, or declare for, Ireland, Scotland and Wales something to aim for.
This is so simple it is untrue. Get on with it RFL!! Start the campaign now!
Sounds great to me...get the campaign started!
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Our Purple/Green away one will never be beaten.
I'm with you on this one Mick, with VAUX as the sponsor. The home one from the same era was good too..
Sam Burgess again! He is on a downward spiral.
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Conviction quashed:
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12196/12250302/sam-burgess-former-england-rugby-league-captain-has-intimidation-conviction-quashed-by-australian-court?fbclid=IwAR0e9L36LS8dWJXYRCDceprsvqEdTsiNdk8TO9hfIIMnoYvKRbDyevjgCs0